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I haven't seen but one or two posts each day of this week. I'm using bellsouth's newsgroup, motzarella.org and aioe.org's listings. Is everyone enjoying the Fall weather and just not typing on their computers? Or is this the end of rec.models.rc.air? Ed Cregger > I haven't seen but one or two posts each day of this week. I'm using > bellsouth's newsgroup, motzarella.org and aioe.org's listings. Is everyone > enjoying the Fall weather and just not typing on their computers? Or is this > the end of rec.models.rc.air? > > Ed Cregger Both probably. The fact of the matter is that the web based sites do an infinitely better job for modeling chatter. Compare a site like rcgroups, and you will see a thousand posts a day plus.. >The fact of the matter is that the web based sites do an infinitely >better job for modeling chatter. > >Compare a site like rcgroups, and you will see a thousand posts a day plus.. If you like the ONLINE crap better, then by all means GO THERE but speaking from experience, unless you have a FAST connection, and unlimited time to waste, the online stuff is VERY frustrating add to that the fact that most are VERY insular in nature, and you get no cross section view of the hobby as a whole, IF you want to discuss ONLY ONE aspect, they work sort of ok If you want some cross-pollination, they are a total waste of effort. >> ... Compare a site like rcgroups, and you will see a thousand posts a day plus.. >If you like the ONLINE crap better, >then by all means GO THERE ... I look at the online groups when I do Google searches. There is definitely a wealth of valuable information in them. More power to 'em. For my daily dose, I'm content with r.m.rc.air, even when there isn't much stuff here. :o) Marty  SignatureBig-8 newsgroups: humanities.*, misc.*, news.*, rec.*, sci.*, soc.*, talk.* See http://www.big-8.org for info on how to add or remove newsgroups. >> The fact of the matter is that the web based sites do an infinitely >> better job for modeling chatter. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > unless you have a FAST connection, and unlimited time to waste, > the online stuff is VERY frustrating I dont find it so, even when I had a moidem only.. > add to that the fact that most are VERY insular in nature, and you get no cross > section view of the hobby as a whole, not in my experience. > IF you want to discuss ONLY ONE aspect, they work sort of ok > > If you want some cross-pollination, they are a total waste of effort. Cross pollinatin needs bees. I see only thee and me. >I haven't seen but one or two posts each day of this week. I'm using >bellsouth's newsgroup, motzarella.org and aioe.org's listings. Is everyone >enjoying the Fall weather and just not typing on their computers? Or is this >the end of rec.models.rc.air? I'm busy with the start of classes and some other projects (a HD died on my linux box and that led to a long, worrisome cascade of difficulties). I'm also not building or flying much these days. Most of my hobby time has gone into renovating my family's camp. Marty SignatureBig-8 newsgroups: humanities.*, misc.*, news.*, rec.*, sci.*, soc.*, talk.* See http://www.big-8.org for info on how to add or remove newsgroups. >>I haven't seen but one or two posts each day of this week. I'm using >>bellsouth's newsgroup, motzarella.org and aioe.org's listings. Is everyone [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Marty -------------- I'm not flying much either, Marty. My latest blessing is my very own pet goiter. I'm doing my best to raise it right. I get a CT scan this coming Tuesday to see just what exactly what is going on with it. It has been on a growth spurt of late. I enjoy RCU, RC Groups and RC Hanger. But I haven't forgotten from whence I came, rec.models.rc.air. I also have other hobbies like amateur radio, writing/playing/recording music via computer, etc., to keep me busy. Oh, and my motorcycle. I always wanted a good looking V-twin powered motorcycle that had the Harley sound. The 2005 Kawasaki VN800 Classic is just the bike. It sure is pretty. Even the local police have commented on its beauty. No, they weren't giving me a ticket. My foot went out from under me at a four way stop and the bike landed on top of me. They helped me get back upright and riding again. Good guys, no doubt. There are so many interesting and new aspects of R/C flying these days that it is difficult for me to pick a project and then complete it. Then again, I'm enjoying myself, so what difference does it make? Ed Cregger > ... Then again, >I'm enjoying myself, so what difference does it make? Exactly! I'm on my way to the club meeting. Hope to do some show flying on Sunday (at a fly-in breakfast). Marty SignatureBig-8 newsgroups: humanities.*, misc.*, news.*, rec.*, sci.*, soc.*, talk.* See http://www.big-8.org for info on how to add or remove newsgroups. Fall weather??? Its friggin 103 here in Canyon Country, CA. Posts have been thin the last few days tho... Dan KE6ERB Fubar of the HillPeople etc.... >I haven't seen but one or two posts each day of this week. I'm using >bellsouth's newsgroup, motzarella.org and aioe.org's listings. Is everyone >enjoying the Fall weather and just not typing on their computers? Or is >this the end of rec.models.rc.air? > > Ed Cregger > Fall weather??? > Its friggin 103 here in Canyon Country, CA. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >> >> Ed Cregger Really nice today in central Texas. I plugged in (to charge) two planes and the TX today in anticipation of Sunday. There's a Hanger 9 Sopwith Camel that needs to it's maiden voyage when I get a round-tu-it. mk member of RCU and RCGroups, lurk/look, seldom post I'm still around, Ed. I like the other stuff for specific things, but I like rec.models.rc.air at least as much for interaction with guy like you, Marty, Mike, fubar, TNP and the rest. My wife and I just took a small vacation, is all. Went up to Door County, WI and took in the sights, sounds, beauty and history of the place. Harlan >I haven't seen but one or two posts each day of this week. I'm using >bellsouth's newsgroup, motzarella.org and aioe.org's listings. Is everyone >enjoying the Fall weather and just not typing on their computers? Or is >this the end of rec.models.rc.air? > > Ed Cregger > I'm still around, Ed. I like the other stuff for specific things, but I > like rec.models.rc.air at least as much for interaction with guy like you, [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Harlan ------------ I hope that you and the wife are fully recharged and ready for life, Harlan. It's nice to see that there are more than two or three people still reading the newsgroup. Ed Cregger > It's nice to see that there are more than two or three people still reading > the newsgroup. > > Ed Cregger Ed, It appears that replies are down to all areas. I frequent RCU, RC Groups and here. Seems like each year about this time communications start to slow. Dan Thompson On Sep 6, 1:28?pm, "Ed Cregger" <ecreg...@bellsouff.net> wrote: > It's nice to see that there are more than two or three people still > reading > the newsgroup. > > Ed Cregger Ed, It appears that replies are down to all areas. I frequent RCU, RC Groups and here. Seems like each year about this time communications start to slow. Dan Thompson -------- Hi, Dan. Yeah, I've noted the same thing with the online forums too. Oh well, I guess things will pick up a bit as it cools off. I'm getting back into ham radio after a lay off lasting a few years. Bought an Icom IC-756 MKIII Pro, or however you say it. Nice rig. I usually use rigs that are just one level up from a mobile (I use mobiles too). This new rig has me spoiled. I have finally managed to get a few sales on eBay. For a while there, no one was buying. I'm going to clear out the ARF collection and focus more on building old pattern ships again. I too have a CMP P-40 with retracts. I'll probably end up putting my Super Tigre G2300 in that, or, if I really get crazy, try to fit in my Saito FG-36 gasser. Oops, I just realized it was another fellow that has a CMP P-40. Ed Cregger Gee I read this last week so tonight when I went to google groups I looked at the number of subscribers and was a little shocked. Only 624. Back 5 years ago I'd get a least 100 headers a day. Now lucky to get 5 a week. From what I've seen on the web, most of those migrated to the forums and if you take a look as to why, you can see it it the charter of rec.models.rc.air. I think most, like myself, like to view images, follow links, and keep up with the latest developments threw advertisement on those sites. RMRCA really doesn't offer those resources and thus, those that found there way here left for bigger brighter areas to express there interests and share there thoughts. _______ +++ STARCAD PLANS +++ Your site on the Internet for FREE Model Airplane Plans Bookmark this site for the fantastic resource it is. <http://www.starcadplans.net> >Gee I read this last week so tonight when I went to google groups I >looked at the number of subscribers and was a little shocked. Only [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >for bigger brighter areas to express there interests and share there >thoughts. Yes, it all make sense. Some sites offer (or did offer?) access to the newsgroup through their web pages, I think, giving their members the best of both worlds. Marty SignatureBig-8 newsgroups: humanities.*, misc.*, news.*, rec.*, sci.*, soc.*, talk.* See http://www.big-8.org for info on how to add or remove newsgroups. >> Gee I read this last week so tonight when I went to google groups I >> looked at the number of subscribers and was a little shocked. Only [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Marty RCgroups certainly do. However the fact is that for modeling chitchat, Usenet is an inferior medium. 1/. Time lag. Posts take a considerable time to ripple out to all servers..a more or less real time conversation is not possible. 2/. No pictures. I want to see pictures, post pictures, see how someone else has fixed their undercarriage etc. 3/. Editing: Once a Usenet post has gone out, thats it. No chance to edit it, remove the typos, or correct wrong information. 4/. Unreliability. Usenet is heavy traffic, and often posts get lost or discard when servers get overloaded. 5/. Lack of moderation. The web fora can remove most of the irrelevant trash and suspend accounts. This makes them less noisy and full of rubbish. The one thing that is good about Usenet - that you can more ore say anything no matter how obscene, and see it whistle round the world, loses its positives in this sort of specialized place. Mind you, when one site started introducing a 'naughty words' filter I had to complain about it rejecting my post featuring the well known phrase 'The Law is an a.s'. Apparently the Animal Our Dear Lord Jesus used to ride on, is an obscene word in the Bible Belt. There probably ought to be a standard post in here saying 'here are all the current model aircraft interactive websites, you will find us there' > ... Usenet is an inferior medium. >1/. Time lag. Posts take a considerable time to ripple out to all >servers..a more or less real time conversation is not possible. May have been true in the past. May be true of those who get at newsgroups through Google or another web-based server (they only update the page on some periodic basis). May be true of some news servers. Not true of NNTP per se. The last measure I heard for world-wide distribution was under 2 minutes. It's not a chat room, but it's pretty impressive. >2/. No pictures. I want to see pictures, post pictures, see how someone >else has fixed their undercarriage etc. Conceded. There are times when pictures are essential. >3/. Editing: Once a Usenet post has gone out, thats it. No chance to >edit it, remove the typos, or correct wrong information. Agreed. >4/. Unreliability. Usenet is heavy traffic, and often posts get lost or >discarded when servers get overloaded. I heard that statement in the 90s. Dunno if it's still true. I have made thousands of posts and only have evidence of a few not getting off my computer and into circulation. I see them from time to time when I'm exploring my old sent folder. >5/. Lack of moderation. The web fora can remove most of the irrelevant >trash and suspend accounts. This makes them less noisy and full of >rubbish. The one thing that is good about Usenet - that you can more ore >say anything no matter how obscene, and see it whistle round the world, >loses its positives in this sort of specialized place. I hate the trash talking on Usenet. People definitely do abuse the freedom. A few bad apples definitely stink up the place. >Mind you, when one site started introducing a 'naughty words' filter I >had to complain about it rejecting my post featuring the well known >phrase 'The Law is an a.s'. Mind your spelling: "The Law is a a.s." QUOTATION: If the law supposes that, said Mr. Bumble, ... the law is a a.sa idiot. If thats the eye of the law, the law is a bachelor; and the worst I wish the law is that his eye may be opened by experienceby experience. ATTRIBUTION: CHARLES DICKENS, Oliver Twist, chapter 51, p. 489 (1970). First published serially 18371839. <http://www.bartleby.com/73/1002.html> >Apparently the Animal Our Dear Lord Jesus >used to ride on, is an obscene word in the Bible Belt. I'm not near a historical lexicon, but chances are good that the people of Jesus' day didn't use the same range of meanings that we do. I'll bet that the sequence was something like this: - inoffensive name for an animal (Elizabethan era) - insult to people who had the characteristics of said animal (Elizabethan era) - reference to portion of anatomy (later era) In other words, what used to be inoffensive became offensive due to the development (evolution, perhaps) of language. >There probably ought to be a standard post in here saying 'here are all >the current model aircraft interactive websites, you will find us there' People are certainly welcome to make such posts. They have been made irregularly since the first forum opened. They would be slightly insulting to those of us who won't be found on the forums, but that's life on Usenet. People are free to say what they like. ;o) Marty SignatureBig-8 newsgroups: humanities.*, misc.*, news.*, rec.*, sci.*, soc.*, talk.* See http://www.big-8.org for info on how to add or remove newsgroups. On Sep 19, 9:39 am, "Martin X. Moleski, SJ" <mole...@canisius.edu> wrote: > > ... Usenet is an inferior medium. > >1/. Time lag. Posts take a considerable time to ripple out to all [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > or another web-based server (they only update the page > on some periodic basis). Just for the fun of it, I peeked into Google after I finished reading newsgroups with Agent and answering some e-mail. My post had arrived. I think that's pretty impressive. Marty >> ... Usenet is an inferior medium. > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > world-wide distribution was under 2 minutes. It's > not a chat room, but it's pretty impressive. You haven't run a news server then have you? Even when I was building them, the slightest glitch and you are hours behind, and so is anyone who takes feeds off you. Its one of the most disk and compute intensive tasks on the internet. I often finds replies to posts coming before the actual post, and often do not even see theh posts. >> 2/. No pictures. I want to see pictures, post pictures, see how someone >> else has fixed their undercarriage etc. [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > I see them from time to time when I'm exploring my old > sent folder. Oh they get off your computer allright. Its what happens afterwards. Severs hold them in a queue until they can be inserted into te databases..well they aren't proper database, but you know what I mean..if the computer has a problem, and they always do - the queue gets junked. Its only unsenet, after all,. No guarantees of service, no income from it, and very expensive to build... >> 5/. Lack of moderation. The web fora can remove most of the irrelevant >> trash and suspend accounts. This makes them less noisy and full of [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > abuse the freedom. A few bad apples definitely stink up > the place. I love it and hate it. You wont get away with posting anywhere on a moderated US site, even tongue in cheek, that George Bush is the best advertisement for abortion and euthanasia, that there is.. ;-) >> Mind you, when one site started introducing a 'naughty words' filter I >> had to complain about it rejecting my post featuring the well known >> phrase 'The Law is an a.s'. > > Mind your spelling: "The Law is a a.s." I see no difference in spelling. Of a.s. I could go on. Lets talk about the nice labrador bitch we got our puppies from. Yes thats the black bitch up the road. > In other words, what used to be inoffensive became offensive > due to the development (evolution, perhaps) of language. Offensive to whom? What are lady dogs called in the USA? Over here a spade is both a gardening tool, a suit in cards, and a gentleman of the negro persuasion.. Diddy means little. Its also short for Diddicoy, a peculiar word meaning an itinerant person of possibly Irish or Romany extraction, and very much associated with mini crime waves when noted in the neighbourhood. Context is everything: machine filters are useless. >> There probably ought to be a standard post in here saying 'here are all >> the current model aircraft interactive websites, you will find us there' [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Marty > Not true of NNTP per se. The last measure I heard for > world-wide distribution was under 2 minutes. It's > not a chat room, but it's pretty impressive. I frequently keep near real time conversations in another group. When I send a post, I can usually see it on the web in the amount of time it take to sync the group. About 5 seconds? >>2/. No pictures. I want to see pictures, post pictures, see how someone >>else has fixed their undercarriage etc. > > Conceded. There are times when pictures are essential. If you have a web site that you can post pictures to, a hot link makes that possible. There are many free photo sharing sites. Granted, it means you have to make an extra click and wait a few seconds, but I don't mind doing that, either. Some of the other points have validity, but to me, usenet is like the saying about democracy. Something like "it is the worst form of government, except for all of the rest." Usenet, to me, is the easiest way to read a bunch of posts in a big hurry, and not have to poke around to figure out where all of the posts of the day are located. I have tried web based groups, and have come to the conclusion that they are so cumbersome that I rarely make the effort to read them. Of course, these are my opinions, and everyone has one of their own. That is what keeps life interesting, I guess. SignatureJim in NC >> ... There are times when pictures are essential. >If you have a web site that you can post pictures to, a hot link makes that >possible. There are many free photo sharing sites. Granted, it means you >have to make an extra click and wait a few seconds, but I don't mind doing >that, either. Me, neither. I'm just as happy not to have to look at all the ads, avatars, and site chrome. >Some of the other points have validity, but to me, usenet is like the saying >about democracy. Something like "it is the worst form of government, >except for all of the rest." I accept that Usenet is not for everyone. >Usenet, to me, is the easiest way to read a bunch of posts in a big hurry, >and not have to poke around to figure out where all of the posts of the day >are located. I have tried web based groups, and have come to the conclusion >that they are so cumbersome that I rarely make the effort to read them. Agreed completely. I've been reading Usenet for about 13 years or so. It is very much to my taste. >Of course, these are my opinions, and everyone has one of their own. That >is what keeps life interesting, I guess. Yup. Marty SignatureBig-8 newsgroups: humanities.*, misc.*, news.*, rec.*, sci.*, soc.*, talk.* See http://www.big-8.org for info on how to add or remove newsgroups. >>> ... There are times when pictures are essential. > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > I'm just as happy not to have to look at all > the ads, avatars, and site chrome. Well checkout firefox with adblock. >> Some of the other points have validity, but to me, usenet is like the saying >> about democracy. Something like "it is the worst form of government, [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Agreed completely. I've been reading Usenet for about 13 years or > so. It is very much to my taste. Well I read it too, as you can see, but for RC modelling, its not where I converse, mainly. >> Of course, these are my opinions, and everyone has one of their own. That >> is what keeps life interesting, I guess. > > Yup. > > Marty This may be a strange way to look at it...but..I think a good thing about this group is that it DOESN'T HAVE a zillion posts everyday. Great variety; but limited volume...That's a good thing for busy people. Rich > This may be a strange way to look at it...but..I think a good thing > about this group is that it DOESN'T HAVE a zillion posts everyday. > Great variety; but limited volume...That's a good thing for busy people. > Rich Yes, but it often has no posts other than posts about no posts. ;-) > Yes, but it often has no posts other than posts about no posts. ;-) I knew you were going to say that. But then, you knew I knew that you were going to say that. <g> SignatureJim in NC >I haven't seen but one or two posts each day of this week. I'm using >bellsouth's newsgroup, motzarella.org and aioe.org's listings. Is everyone >enjoying the Fall weather and just not typing on their computers? Or is >this the end of rec.models.rc.air? I hope it's not the end, Ed! I haven't posted in quite some time, but I've been lurking. I only flew a couple of times early this spring, then spent most of my summer Sundays at the skeet club instead of the flying field. Our upstate NY summer was so rainy, I never even put my motorcycle on the road... when last year's insurance policy on it expired at the end of June, I didn't renew it, so the ol' Ducati aged another year without racking up miles on the ticker. I did go on a bicycling vacation: an eight-day, 500-mile ride with an old high school buddy and his family. We did a similar ride last year and we got home, I had his two boys on the buddy box flying a trainer at the club field. This year, they were more interested in shooting. The hunting season has started here with the special early goose season opening Sept. 1 (my buddies and I got 19 on opening day). My weekends will be spent hunting from now until the end of February! I do have some projects to work on this winter... I need to finish up a really neat electric Wilga kit I have framed up and a big China Model Products P-40 ARF that needs some customizing to get a Saito 1.50 in the nose. Long live rec.models.rc.air! desmobob >>I haven't seen but one or two posts each day of this week. I'm using >>bellsouth's newsgroup, motzarella.org and aioe.org's listings. Is everyone [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > Long live rec.models.rc.air! > desmobob ------------- Wow, just the thought of a 500 mile bicycle ride makes my prostate ache in sympathy. Yeah, this is the time of the year when folks get more active outside, but it just seemed like the drop off in posts was dramatic this year. And I agree with you about the online forums having reduced activity too. It's still too hot down here for me to ride the bike except in the very early morning. It's still in the 90's here in Northwest Georgia during the day. I miss riding and I intend to make up for it some this late Fall. Good to see you posting again, Bob. Take care. Ed Cregger |
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