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Let's try this again... (introduction)

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Michael Austin - 10 Jan 2009 02:29 GMT
Hello All,

I am building my 2nd RC sail plane - my first was the Goldberg
Sophisticated Lady (T-tail 3M plane).  She died a horrible death when a
gust came up and shoved the plane right into the ground from ~25ft while
attempting to land.  That as almost 13 years ago.  This Christmas, my
wife decided I needed another hobby other than computers - I am a
database guru by day and host internet sites from home by night.  I do
play golf every once in a while...

Anyway, my new plane is the Gentle Lady, the sister to the Sophisticated
Lady.  At this writing I have all but the last half of the main wing
glued together (and no I generally do not follow directions step by step
:) ).  Hopefully will finish the later this weekend.  Then I will begin
the assembly.

My question is, has anyone experimented to give these birds a more
spectacular launch using - say - a 1/4A model rocket engine?   Sort-of
like using the JATO on the Blue Angel's Fat Albert?

And yes - insanity runs in the family... :)

Hmmmm. to answer my own question I just found this on youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIcAXrHRY7M

If you prefer to not click unknown links - search youtube for:
"Jet Assisted Takeoff (JATO) RC Plane"

that is SOOOOO coool!!
PCPhill - 10 Jan 2009 03:01 GMT
You'd actually get much higher acceleration (and for much longer) from a
high end electric setup.  The LMR (limited motor run) glider guys can get up
well over 2000' in 30 seconds.  In the video, it looks like they were using
six rocket motors, and other than the pyrotechnics, the results weren't all
that impressive.

PCPhill

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From: "Michael Austin" <maustin@firstdbasource.com>
Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 9:29 PM
Newsgroups: rec.models.rc.air
Subject: Let's try this again... (introduction)

> Hello All,
>
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>
> that is SOOOOO coool!!
Martin X. Moleski, SJ - 10 Jan 2009 03:52 GMT
>I am building my 2nd RC sail plane ...

>My question is, has anyone experimented to give these birds a more
>spectacular launch using - say - a 1/4A model rocket engine?   Sort-of
>like using the JATO on the Blue Angel's Fat Albert?

>And yes - insanity runs in the family... :)

In this family, too.  Welcome!

>Hmmmm. to answer my own question I just found this on youtube:
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIcAXrHRY7M

Awesome!

As some of the comments said, that really isn't a lot
of altitude, but the coolness factor is undeniable.

They probably have to tilt the rockets down so as
not to burn the fuselage--or else to resemble the
Fat Albert package.

I would try to get the thrust pointed straight
back, if possible.  A glider's wings will provide
all the lift you need to get up and start hunting
thermals in short order.  If you've seen pix of
gliders being towed up by a bungee or by a winch,
you'll understand what I mean.

Seems to me that trying to lift such a light aircraft
by rocket power alone means you're fighting the top
surface of the wing instead of getting the wing to
work for you.

I've got a Great Planes Spirit.  When we're done
playing with it as-is, maybe it will be time to
try some of those long-burn rocket pods also mentioned
in the comments.

Of course, if you get a misfire on one side of the
fuselage, it will be game over.  :-O

                Marty
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MJKolodziej - 10 Jan 2009 04:30 GMT
> Hello All,
>
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> by day and host internet sites from home by night.  I do play golf every
> once in a while...

Welcome to here. Welcome back to the hobby. (I miss golf)

> Anyway, my new plane is the Gentle Lady, the sister to the Sophisticated
> Lady.  At this writing I have all but the last half of the main wing glued
> together (and no I generally do not follow directions step by step :) ).
> Hopefully will finish the later this weekend.  Then I will begin the
> assembly.

Sail planes, that's right down Doug's alley.
I still have my first, an Ace something.

> My question is, has anyone experimented to give these birds a more
> spectacular launch using - say - a 1/4A model rocket engine?   Sort-of
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
> that is SOOOOO coool!!

That is pretty cool.  try it for fun but I don't think you'll get long
flights out of it.  A folding prop and lithium batt would be my better guess
for getting up there.

I'll bet you could have pics of your building up on a website in about 10
min.
(hint hint)
mk
Michael Austin - 10 Jan 2009 15:15 GMT
>> Hello All,
>>
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> (hint hint)
> mk

will try to get to that later today...  first - it's clean out the
basement of old junk so I can start the completion the renovation job...
 
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