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AMA Nationwide Membership Drive 2009

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sfrank69@gmail.com - 09 Mar 2009 22:58 GMT
AMA Nationwide Membership Drive 2009

Goal: To utilize/involve the Academy’s largest outreach component—the
membership—to recruit new members for the AMA so more people can
participate in the fun of flying model airplanes.

Time Frame: April 1-September 14, 2009.

Methodology: Train, equip, and challenge the Academy’s leadership with
the knowledge and materials that will encourage and empower the
average AMA member to recruit new members.

Relationships to other AMA membership-development programs: The
Bringing Modelers Together Challenge replaces no current AMA
membership-development program. All prizes and awards that are
currently in effect will be honored in addition to the new incentives
developed for this effort.

Membership Drive: This effort will center on a competition between the
following groups to sign up the highest number of new members*.
Awards/ recognition will be given to the highest producer in each
division.

Club to Club: The highest number of new members* gained through the
efforts of the club. Does not require that new members join the local
club, but it is greatly encouraged. Calculations are based on new
membership applications* with a club-orientation designation noted
from April 1 through September 15, 2009.

There are five subdivisions for clubs in this competition: Small,
membership of 5-10; Medium, membership of 11-24; Large, membership of
25-49; X Large, membership of 50-99; XX Large, membership of 100 or
more.

Awards:

1. Recognition in MA/Park Pilot and all Web sites as the top-producing
club in each respective category.
2. Brick in AMA “Walk of Fame” in new club-recognition section
denoting club winner for 2009.
3. AMA banner and plaque proclaiming that “TBA club signed up the
largest number of AMA members in 2009.”
4. Waived recharter fees for 2010.
5. Cash award of $500 to club.

District vice presidents are encouraged to develop a corresponding
intradistrict “Bringing Modelers Together Challenge” program, with
recognition and awards within their respective districts, to encourage
participation.

The AMA will develop support materials that can be used by AMA vice
presidents, AMA associate vice presidents, AMA Leader Members, and
AMA’s general membership to recruit new members from April 1-October
2, 2009.

Materials/Actions Needs:

1. Program-announcement materials and communications to AMA leadership
and members.
2. AMA application forms.
3. FAQs sheet on membership recruitment.
4. Poster suitable for club bulletin board, announcing the “Bringing
Modelers Together Challenge.”
5. Online registration to allow a sponsor/referring member or club to
be recorded/tracked.

Time Line:

1. ASAP: Presentation to Executive Council, using a teleconference
call, of concept and components.
2. Early February: Program-announcement materials and communications
to AMA leadership and members developed.
3. MA/Park Pilot and all Web site announcements developed and placed
in April, May, June, July, August, and September issues.
4. Monthly: Reports of membership challenge progress by all divisions
reported in MA/Park Pilot and all Web sites in April, May, June, July,
August, and September issues.
5. March: Mail materials to all clubs.
6. March: Push e-mail to all members.
7. March: Push e-mail to all associate vice presidents.
8. April, May, June, July, August, and September: Reminder push e-mail
to all members and associate vice presidents with status-report
information.
9. October: Calculate and notify winners in each division.
Announcement made at October Executive Council meeting.
10. January 2010: Recognition of winners at January Executive Council
meeting.
11. January 2010: Begin planning for the 2010 membership drive.

Note: The Membership Department supervisor has the final say if there
are questions about whether or not a particular application counts
toward this promotion.

* AMA $1 Youth Memberships are ineligible for this promotion.

Approved by Executive Council telephone meeting February 9, 2009. Q
Ray Haddad - 10 Mar 2009 01:03 GMT
Here, Sandy. Let me fix this post for you:

Leader Members want you to know:

1. That Leader Members are far superior to ordinary members.

2. Leader Members are here to care for you and make decisions for you.

3. Only Lleader Members are equal to the task of making and changing
rules for you. Obey or die.

4. Leader Members will nurture you in your hobby. Just send the Leader
Members your money.

5. In order to prosper, Leader Members need MORE MEMBERS so please
participate in this membership drive for 2009 by joining and sending
the Leader Members your money. Leader Members will pretend that Leader
Members are tearfully grateful for your efforts. That is, until the
next issue that requires you to comply to some ridiculous new rule
comes up. Then the Leader Members will completely ignore you and even
look down on you as the Leader Members do whatever they want.

Welcome to the Leader Members' Club, otherwise known as the AMA.

>AMA Nationwide Membership Drive 2009
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>Approved by Executive Council telephone meeting February 9, 2009. Q
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Ray
Ed Forsythe - 10 Mar 2009 16:49 GMT
So Ray,
What's your solution to the problem?
Ed F.
> Here, Sandy. Let me fix this post for you:
>
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> --
> Ray
Ed Cregger - 10 Mar 2009 20:41 GMT
How many members do you have to recruit before you qualify for diamond
direct?

Ed Cregger

> So Ray,
> What's your solution to the problem?
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>> --
>> Ray
Ray Haddad - 10 Mar 2009 20:43 GMT
>What's your solution to the problem?

Return the AMA to its members. All of them.
--
Ray
Vance Howard - 11 Mar 2009 00:45 GMT
> >What's your solution to the problem?
>
> Return the AMA to its members. All of them.
> --
> Ray
Exactly what I've been gripping about. If you want to get involved in
the operations of and making of bylaws of the AMA, you've got to jumps
through hoops and pay an extra fee to become a "Leader Member".

If you want people to get involved with the organization, then don't
make it hard to do so. I don't know any leader members locally, I'm not
an administrator, politician, or scientist, and my district VP is a
dead end street. He makes noises about not liking the "leader Member"
status to get involved, but he won't do anything about it.

The low life "regular" members can get a petition signed by 20 AMA
members to get a bylaw change proposal put before the EC. A member of
the EC can also propose a bylaw change. But what's the use, I know that
a bylaw to eliminate the leader member status requirement to have a say
on bylaws and further involvement in the AMA would never be ratified by
the leader members. They wouldn't want to give up their "status"of
being better than low life "regular" members.

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Geezer - 11 Mar 2009 01:47 GMT
>> >What's your solution to the problem?
>>
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> the leader members. They wouldn't want to give up their "status"of
> being better than low life "regular" members.

Hmmpf,
Sounds more like Mary Kay than a hobby club...still no reason to rejoin.

Geezer
Ed Forsythe - 11 Mar 2009 01:05 GMT
A lofty goal Ray. I'm not aware that the AMA could not be controlled by it's
members any more so than any democratic legislative body. We elect our reps
to represent us.  Obviously they can't please us all so they must use their
judgment to do what's best for the majority of members. An increasingly
difficult task since the "majority" does not get involved enough to express
their views. I am satisfied with the AMA's persistence in obtaining and
keeping our radio frequencies and in assisting us in retaining, whenever
possible, our facilities and our ability to fly. I agree that the
organization should be governed (not controlled) in the best interests of
the members. Since you appear to have some ideas along those lines I say
have at it Ray.  Get out there in the trenches and work for what you
consider to be worthwhile. You know what has to be done? Lead and some will
follow.  As for me - I'll hold your coat ;-) - Out!
Ed F.

>>What's your solution to the problem?
>
> Return the AMA to its members. All of them.
> --
> Ray
Ray Haddad - 11 Mar 2009 01:27 GMT
>A lofty goal Ray. I'm not aware that the AMA could not be controlled by it's
>members any more so than any democratic legislative body. We elect our reps
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>consider to be worthwhile. You know what has to be done? Lead and some will
>follow.  As for me - I'll hold your coat ;-) - Out!

I was a member many years ago and more than once. The reason was my
overseas and continental US residence was very fluid and still is. So,
when I need to be a member, I rejoin. When not, I let it lapse.

This is a club we're discussing here not a government body. There's no
need for 50k members to have representatives who turn their noses up
at the regular members and demand that they not post to threads here
on a public forum. Leader members. Right. If you ask me, and you sort
of did, they're not leaders at all. They're just snooty about their
status which was granted them by, well, leader members.

You hit the nail on the head when it comes to making changes. Since
voting rights were ceded to the executives and leader members, you'll
never, ever get them back.

FYI, I don't for a minute want you to think I don't like the AMA.
Quite the opposite is true. There's no easier way to conform to the
rules of being a guest at a flying field than to pull out your current
AMA card.
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Ray
Red Scholefield - 11 Mar 2009 19:40 GMT
Returning the AMA to its members (re: Leader Member voting rules changes)
would be a great idea . . . . once more than 10% of them show enough
interest to get off their butts to vote in elections for EC members.
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Red S.
AMA 951
Leader Member
Tragedy is what happens when a beautiful theory collides with fact.

>>What's your solution to the problem?
>
> Return the AMA to its members. All of them.
> --
> Ray
Ray Haddad - 11 Mar 2009 20:56 GMT
>Returning the AMA to its members (re: Leader Member voting rules changes)
>would be a great idea . . . . once more than 10% of them show enough
>interest to get off their butts to vote in elections for EC members.

See? This is part of the problem. It shouldn't matter how many vote.
Disenfranchising members is the problem. Not how many of them vote.

The so called Leader Members have taken it upon themselves to pretend
they know what's best for people they will never meet. Sad, really.
Read the book Animal Farm some day. You'll get a clearer picture.
--
Ray
Morgans - 11 Mar 2009 22:21 GMT
> Returning the AMA to its members (re: Leader Member voting rules changes)
> would be a great idea . . . . once more than 10% of them show enough
> interest to get off their butts to vote in elections for EC members.

Never happen.  90 percent of the members only belong so they will have
insurance, and the ability to fly at the club fields.

Even then, why worry about how many vote?  In US elections, a high
percentage never vote, and still that is how representatives are elected,
and issues are voted upon.

Oh, wait, am I trying to recommend a good way to run an organization, like
our country?  I hope not.

Sorry, I lost my head for a minute.
Signature

Jim in NC

Ray Haddad - 11 Mar 2009 22:52 GMT
>Even then, why worry about how many vote?  In US elections, a high
>percentage never vote, and still that is how representatives are elected,
>and issues are voted upon.

Heh. The AMA unilaterally decided to punish the 10% for what the 90%
don't do. The punishment should fit the crime. Instead, they inflicted
Leader Members upon everyone! That's cruel and unusual punishment.
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Ray
sfrank69@gmail.com - 12 Mar 2009 00:03 GMT
to combat ---

much IGNORANCE HERE !!!

see:

http://www.modelaircraft.org/files/907.pdf

get educated....
Ray Haddad - 12 Mar 2009 00:07 GMT
>to combat ---
>
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>
>get educated....

Sandy, learn more about what the AMA was founded upon. Get back to me
when you can really lead. You are no longer a Leader Member. I have
stripped you of that title forever. Deal.
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Ray
Vance Howard - 12 Mar 2009 01:02 GMT
> to combat ---
>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> get educated....

That is asinine. Only people who have had administrative experience in
the model club, or scientific experience relating to modeling, or those
who own a business related to modeling are eligible for leader member
status. This cuts out a lot of people who might otherwise be interested
in being involved in what goes on in the AMA.

It is this very elitism that I find distasteful. If we don't match
those qualifications, we get no say in this organization. That is a
load of crap.

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sfrank69@gmail.com - 12 Mar 2009 14:05 GMT
> On Wed, 11 Mar 2009 16:03:09 -0700 (PDT)
> sfran...@gmail.com remarked:
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Am happy to see that you are expanding your education..

Well done!!

keep up the learning...

work on language improvement some also...

it shows education or lack of it........
Red Scholefield - 20 Mar 2009 18:30 GMT
Well if you can't qualify for Leader Member status you could run for
President of the United States - or a seat in congress.

You have plenty of say in the AMA organization if you take the time to vote.
It does help to be familiar with the issues facing the organization however.
Again, not a requirement to vote for senators, representatives or President.

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Red Scholefield
AMA 951 Dist. V
Leader Member/CD

> That is asinine. Only people who have had administrative experience in
> the model club, or scientific experience relating to modeling, or those
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> those qualifications, we get no say in this organization. That is a
> load of crap.
Vance Howard - 21 Mar 2009 01:52 GMT
> Well if you can't qualify for Leader Member status you could run for
> President of the United States - or a seat in congress.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> organization however. Again, not a requirement to vote for senators,
> representatives or President.

I do take the time to vote on everything that is presented to me to
vote on. But some bright idiot at the AMA thought it would be great to
seperate the membership into "regular" and "super supreme leader
member". Only EC members and leader members have a say in the bylaws of
this org. So how does that mean I a "regular" member, have a say? I can
only vote for the president and VP of my district. 99% of the time,
there is only the incumbent running for any office up for election and
that leaves me with no choice and no say.

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Ed Cregger - 21 Mar 2009 05:41 GMT
>> Well if you can't qualify for Leader Member status you could run for
>> President of the United States - or a seat in congress.
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> there is only the incumbent running for any office up for election and
> that leaves me with no choice and no say.

All of this nonsense reminds me of how one had to be a land owner in order
to vote in political elections in the US. That practice was found to be
unconstitutional eventually and was discontinued. Same kind of thought
processes behind this kind of elitism. I'm sure that nearly one  half, or
more, of our population would resurrect the old laws in a heart beat, if
they could.

Ed Cregger
Red Scholefield - 21 Mar 2009 19:36 GMT
Well if it will help to unwad your panties,the Leader Members have not had
more than a half dozen at most, items to vote on over the last 12 years I
have been one.

Your choice then, if only the incumbent is running, is to nominate someone
else that you think would do a better job.  Better than that, become a
Leader Member and get yourself nominated. It is not all that difficult,
particularly now with term limits coming up.

In qualifying for Leader Member (see the file at the AMA web site) one has
to shown more than a passing interest in the hobby - not all that hard to do
if you have done anything more sophisticated than throw an ARF foamy into
the air a few times.

I realize, based on our last Presidential election, that qualifications are
no longer taken into consideration by the voting public.  I, for one, would
want to see people with at least a clue about the AMA and how it operates
than the clueless voting on the emotion dejure.  Then can we expect the AMA
to bail out failing hobby shops and clubs - and funding new flying sites by
raising the dues for the rest of us that already have one?

Signature

Red Scholefield
AMA 951 Dist. V
Leader Member/CD

> I do take the time to vote on everything that is presented to me to
> vote on. But some bright idiot at the AMA thought it would be great to
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> there is only the incumbent running for any office up for election and
> that leaves me with no choice and no say.
Six_O'Clock_High - 22 Mar 2009 04:50 GMT
The last 12 years were 4 times as active for Leader Members as the 12 prior
years.

Jim Branaum
AMA 1428

> Well if it will help to unwad your panties,the Leader Members have not had
> more than a half dozen at most, items to vote on over the last 12 years I
[quoted text clipped - 25 lines]
>> there is only the incumbent running for any office up for election and
>> that leaves me with no choice and no say.
Vance Howard - 12 Mar 2009 01:03 GMT
> to combat ---
>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> get educated....

Sandy Frank, you should shut up before you embarrass yourself any
further.

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Bob Cowell - 12 Mar 2009 17:57 GMT
Yes,  we know,
we have seen your posts before.

>much IGNORANCE HERE !!!
 
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