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Dave Patrick Ultimate ARF vs. Goldberg Ultimate 1.20 ARF

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Robert Scott - 05 Dec 2009 19:08 GMT
In 2005, I bought a Dave Patrick Ultimate ARF.  I installed a Saito 1.50 and
the model quickly became a favorite.  I ended up crashing it and I put the
engine and servos aside, knowing I'd buy a replacement when I had the money.

I finally got around to replacing it -- or so I thought.  I tried to order
another one last week...  I guess Dave Patrick Models is no longer in
business!  This really broke my heart.

The Goldberg connection:  Dave Patrick was the designer of the popular
Goldberg .90-sized 54" Ultimate kit.  They later offered it as an ARF.  Now,
I notice their ARF has become 1.20-sized; same 60.5" wingspan as the Dave
Patrick version.

Could it be?!?!

Good flying,
desmobob

"Medicine is the keystone of the arch of Socialism" -- Vladimir Lenin

"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the
gospel of envy.  Its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery."
--Winston Churchill
Robert Scott - 06 Dec 2009 12:39 GMT
> In 2005, I bought a Dave Patrick Ultimate ARF.  I installed a Saito 1.50
> and the model quickly became a favorite.  I ended up crashing it and I put
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> Good flying,
> desmobob

I ordered it last week and it will be here in a couple of days.  Since I
ordered it, Tower has discontinued it!  I hope it wasn't because it was a
poor flyer.

What luck....
desmobob
MJKolodziej - 06 Dec 2009 22:30 GMT
>> In 2005, I bought a Dave Patrick Ultimate ARF.  I installed a Saito 1.50
>> and the model quickly became a favorite.  I ended up crashing it and I
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> What luck....
> desmobob

You got the last one!
mk
Robert Scott - 07 Dec 2009 01:45 GMT
>> I ordered it last week and it will be here in a couple of days.  Since I
>> ordered it, Tower has discontinued it!  I hope it wasn't because it was a
>> poor flyer.

> You got the last one!
> mk

That's what I'm worried about.  You know, the last one on the bottom of the
pallet with the caved-in box and parts sticking out....  =:-0

Good flying,
desmobob
Robert Scott - 11 Dec 2009 00:53 GMT
>>> I ordered it last week and it will be here in a couple of days.  Since I
>>> ordered it, Tower has discontinued it!  I hope it wasn't because it was
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> Good flying,
> desmobob

I'm happy to report that it arrived today in very good condition.  UPS had
roughed it up a bit but despite the box damage, the model only had one spot
of very minor damage to one of the wing tips; no repair necessary.

Now I just have to decide where to put the model in the "to be
built/assembled" line up....   It's the beginning of the long, upstate NY
building season, so one way or another, it should be flying this spring.

Good flying,
desmobob
MJKolodziej - 11 Dec 2009 16:03 GMT
>>>> I ordered it last week and it will be here in a couple of days.  Since
>>>> I ordered it, Tower has discontinued it!  I hope it wasn't because it
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> Good flying,
> desmobob

What are your other choices of which to build?
mk
(who is also contemplating a build)
Six_O'Clock_High - 11 Dec 2009 20:56 GMT
>>>>> I ordered it last week and it will be here in a couple of days.  Since
>>>>> I ordered it, Tower has discontinued it!  I hope it wasn't because it
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> mk
> (who is also contemplating a build)

"A build" with an ARF?  I am in the middle of three of those.  A Challenger,
a Pitts Python, and a Sandy.  The Challenger has a balky engine (3w 75) that
starts and quits after about 10 seconds.  The Sandy needs different aileron
servo mounts than the cables supplied because they bend way too much. The
Pitts Python is slowly getting 'anglicized' because I refuse to go to the
flying field with irreplaceable (small metric) nuts, bolts, and blind nuts.
That one promises to be a real trip..the upper wing aileron servo wires have
to attach to extensions that are installed in the struts and attached to
ones in the lower wing.  Fun for all!

Now the real "build" is the Gere Sport that needs ailerons added to the top
wing (the last one flew much better when I did that) and struts for the end
of the wings for stability and strength.  Followed by a Sig 1/4 scale cub
with both wings.  After that I don't know.
Robert Scott - 12 Dec 2009 03:44 GMT
>>>>> I ordered it last week and it will be here in a couple of days.  Since
>>>>> I ordered it, Tower has discontinued it!  I hope it wasn't because it
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> mk
> (who is also contemplating a build)

Hmmm.... let's see....
I have a:
China Model Products 1.40-size P-40 ARF and a set of Century Jet retracts
for it,
Adrian Page .60-size GeeBee kit,
SIG Ultimate Fun Fly kit,
Bud Nosen Citabria kit (the big one),
Wing Mfg. A-26 Invader kit,
Hobbico .60-size Extra 300S ARF,
Herr Aquastar kit,
Tower Fun 51 kits (2),
Tower Extra Special kit,
and enough Corroplast and downspout to build about three dozen SPADS. :-)

I need to get the CMP P-40 out of the dining room and into the basement, so
I'll probably work on it next.   I'll probably assemble the big Ultimate
next.  After that, I'd really like to start on the A-26 twin.

I'm currently in the final stages of a really neat E*star Hobbies Wilga kit
(electric).  A guy flew a rare PZL Wilga into our tiny local airport a few
years ago and I was amazed by the thing.  I HAD to find a kit of one.  I
ended up stumbling onto the E*star kit.  Pricey, but a real masterpiece of
CAD and laser cutting!

Good flying,
desmobob
Tim Wescott - 12 Dec 2009 07:17 GMT
>>>>> I ordered it last week and it will be here in a couple of days.
>>>>> Since I ordered it, Tower has discontinued it!  I hope it wasn't
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> What are your other choices of which to build? mk
> (who is also contemplating a build)

I'm currently building a 1/10th scale Laird Solution foamie of my own
design (with interest already expressed by a model magazine, if luck
holds you may get to see it there).

The @#$% Nobler still hasn't flown; I have to decide if I want to try to
fly it in freezing weather or wait until spring.  I got the engine sorted
out on a stand, I should make sure it runs in the plane.

I'm thinking that the next project will be a C/L semi-stunt, semi-scale
Beech Bonanza for an OS Max 25 (the old loop scavenged one).  It'll also
be an original design.

I think the next RC ship will be a sport scale, either an Aeronca LC
(there's one in Hood River, just an hour's drive away) or a Ryan SC.  
Probably sized for 15-25 gas or 200-300W electric.

Since my teens I've lost the recipe for getting 049s to run sweetly -- if
I can get that back there'll be something small on the list, too.

After that I don't know what, but after the Nobler I'm off of kits for a
while.

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jsphday - 16 Dec 2009 17:45 GMT
dear robert, i have ultimate the one before the ARF. Great planes took carl
goldberg over and dave patrick did design a larger model of the ultimate that
was was before I quit flying in 2002 0r 03 i crashed my ultimate because of
the origanal single aelron servo link .It had a brass coupler that tied both
sides together had a bad solder joint and pulled apart and turned up side
down it had a kb 65 sportster on it it was under powered any way i scratch
built new wings i was lucky the i kept the plans and book

>In 2005, I bought a Dave Patrick Ultimate ARF.  I installed a Saito 1.50 and
>the model quickly became a favorite.  I ended up crashing it and I put the
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
>gospel of envy.  Its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery."
>--Winston Churchill
 
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