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Model Forum / General / Railroads / June 2004Eureka Models web site
The Eureka Models website is up. http://eureka.m.bigpondhosting.com/ Includes some more info on the Garratt, a printable order form and a hint regarding Eureka Models' second release ;-) Eureka Models Webmaster James McInerney STOP! In The Name Of The Lore! At http://www.cia.com.au/bullack/ , homepage for "Lambing Flat" my HO NSWGR branchline, includes information on the full size NSWGR. http://www.cia.com.au/bullack/rvrtitle.html for the "Rurr Valley Railway", my G gauge West Coast of Tasmania garden line or http://members.optusnet.com.au/lambingflat/ for the family stuff! > The Eureka Models website is up. > > http://eureka.m.bigpondhosting.com/ > > Includes some more info on the Garratt, a printable order form and a > hint regarding Eureka Models' second release ;-) Excellent! Excellent! I can't wait for these models. Is the second model a DEB set? :D Regards, Jon Lau My guess would be 620s rather than DEBs  SignatureCheers Terry C > > The Eureka Models website is up. > > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Jon Lau >My guess would be 620s rather than DEBs Pity, there is already a 620 class model ... a DEB set would have been great! Oh, well ... may-be next time! Hunslet Don't forget that Lloyd is well advanced in bringing out the DEB set probably later this year. Hopefully if Eureka is doing the 620 then there will be the variation of the windows & doors as compared to the one on the market already. SignatureCheers Terry C > >My guess would be 620s rather than DEBs > > Pity, there is already a 620 class model ... a DEB set would have been > great! Oh, well ... may-be next time! > > Hunslet > Don't forget that Lloyd is well advanced in bringing out the DEB set > probably later this year. > Hopefully if Eureka is doing the 620 then there will be the variation of the > windows & doors as compared to the one on the market already. From talking to the various rtr principals it seems that having a kit available makes very little difference to the number of rtr models sold. It would seem that they are different markets. So all you chaps (and chapettes) out there who are capable of constructing a kit, congratulate yourselves, you can do something that about 95% of the rtr market can't do....... DPC James McInerney STOP! In The Name Of The Lore! At http://www.cia.com.au/bullack/ , homepage for "Lambing Flat" my HO NSWGR branchline, includes information on the full size NSWGR. http://www.cia.com.au/bullack/rvrtitle.html for the "Rurr Valley Railway", my G gauge West Coast of Tasmania garden line or http://members.optusnet.com.au/lambingflat/ for the family stuff! >> Don't forget that Lloyd is well advanced in bringing out the DEB set >> probably later this year. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > From talking to the various rtr principals it seems that having a kit >available makes very little difference to the number of rtr models sold. Quite, but having a good rtr available makes a big difference to the number of kits sold. Keith Make friends in the hobby. Visit <http://www.grovenor.dsl.pipex.com/> Garratt photos for the big steam lovers. > Don't forget that Lloyd is well advanced in bringing out the DEB set > probably later this year. > Hopefully if Eureka is doing the 620 then there will be the variation of the > windows & doors as compared to the one on the market already. Although the silhouette picture on the website is most likely a 620/720 set perhaps it is just 'representative' of the fact there will be a railcar set produced which may or may not be a 620/720. Given Lloyds already has the 620's and is also doing the 900's there's still an opening for the earlier 600/700 sets. Some of the advantages of doing a 600/700 are: 1) The prototype was introduced earlier than the 620 and 900's so will be of value to those modelling the early steam/diesel transition years. 2) Tuscan and Russet paint scheme (620's were introduced too late for this) 3) Those who already have the Lloyds 620 will be more likely to buy a 600 than another 620 (so more sales for Eureka as they'll be modelling something that hasn't already been done). Then again maybe we're all still wrong and Eureka are actually going to do the "Silver City Comet" in its original form with Green and Cream livery. Michael S. >Although the silhouette picture on the website is most likely a 620/720 set >perhaps it is just 'representative' of the fact there will be a railcar set >produced which may or may not be a 620/720. Given Lloyds already has the >620's and is also doing the 900's there's still an opening for the earlier >600/700 sets. ... >Then again maybe we're all still wrong and Eureka are actually going to do >the "Silver City Comet" in its original form with Green and Cream livery. I reckon it might be a 400 class. A single unit has some advantages, and they certainly ran in the North West, which just happens to somewhere not far from Werris Creek. John ========================================================== John Dennis jdennis@optusnet.com.au Melbourne,Australia Home of the HOn30 Dutton Bay Tramway and the Australian Narrow Gauge Web-Exhibition Gallery Dutton Bay URL: http://members.optusnet.com.au/duttonbay WebX http://members.optusnet.com.au/jdennis/ng_webex.html Chaps, I agree with John it certainly does look like a 400 motor, but whatever it is hopefully we can all support the current and future projects by any manufacturer (if possible). Cheers -- Dave Richards Locomotive Driver Pacific national Melbourne > >Although the silhouette picture on the website is most likely a 620/720 set > >perhaps it is just 'representative' of the fact there will be a railcar set [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > Dutton Bay URL: http://members.optusnet.com.au/duttonbay > WebX http://members.optusnet.com.au/jdennis/ng_webex.html Of all the railmotors/rail cars that the shadow looks like, the only ones that have that "round thing" on the top are the Deb sets and 620/720 cheers, guess we will all find out in time! > Chaps, > I agree with John it certainly does look like a 400 motor, but whatever it [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > > Dutton Bay URL: http://members.optusnet.com.au/duttonbay > > WebX http://members.optusnet.com.au/jdennis/ng_webex.html "Bob & Lynda Harper" wrote > > cheers, guess we will all find out in time! Yes and tomorrow might just be the time. Werris I'll stick to my guess of it being a 620/720 of the type with the larger (or extra) doors and less windows on the power car which would make it different to Lloyds version. The 600/700 which was done in brass by Berg has a different roof profile to the "Shadow". I doubt it to be a DP (Silver City Comet) as there is too much tooling to do in producing the rolling stock that goes with it & without the carriages I doubt there would be many sales. Again the idea of the "Shadow" being representative of a railmotor type car could also indicate CHP38 also known as Creamy Kate. Then again as suggested elsewhere it may equally be a 400 railmotor. The argument of there being different markets of RTR to kits is true but that distinction becomes blurred when Lloyd (and others) offer what were kits in a RTR format. SignatureCheers Terry C > > Don't forget that Lloyd is well advanced in bringing out the DEB set > > probably later this year. [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > Michael S. The latest rumour (that I'm really just starting now) is that the proposed model is indeed a 620/720 set, however in O Gauge. Given the current level of interest in O gauge NSW/Australian modelling and the lack of any RTR models this could just be the start of something "big" ;-) Michael S. A single unit, rounded profile, with cowcatcher at each end...my money is on a 400 railcar. Put me down for one. .......................................Bill -- "I have not said this. I am not here". -The Navigator > > Don't forget that Lloyd is well advanced in bringing out the DEB set > > probably later this year. [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > Michael S. >Don't forget that Lloyd is well advanced in bringing out the DEB set >probably later this year. But NOT "ready to run". Hunslet You forget that Lloyd usually has his kits available as RTR Just check his web page & you will see that nearly all his milky bar locos are available almost continually in a RTR state. SignatureCheers Terry C > >Don't forget that Lloyd is well advanced in bringing out the DEB set > >probably later this year. > > But NOT "ready to run". > > Hunslet James, you haven't tried to hide that other model very well. I reakon I even know the very photo the silhouette is taken from. Can't wait for it though!!! Later > The Eureka Models website is up. > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > for the "Rurr Valley Railway", my G gauge West Coast of Tasmania garden line > or http://members.optusnet.com.au/lambingflat/ for the family stuff! I notice everybody is talking about the "mystery train" which appears to have a cow catcher both ends by the way! Is that because you are all shocked by the $800 plus dollars, depending on the exchange rate?? Eh I will have none of them please, and I would guess their limited run would be about 500 :o))) with quite a few unsold at that! Cheers :o))) > James, you haven't tried to hide that other model very well. I reakon I > even know the very photo the silhouette is taken from. Can't wait for it [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > line > > or http://members.optusnet.com.au/lambingflat/ for the family stuff! Yes. I rather thought its that rail motor combine, that belongs to the Paterson Group, that is running around NSW testing radio reception . Cannot think what its class # is at the moment. 400??? Cheers Rod Gayford > I notice everybody is talking about the "mystery train" which appears to > have a cow catcher both ends by the way! [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > > line > > > or http://members.optusnet.com.au/lambingflat/ for the family stuff! It's a 620/720 set. Compare the silhouette to the photograph 623_Bomaderry which used to be in the railpage picture archive - do a google image search on "623_Bomaderry" to see a thumbnail of the pic. It might be up on the new Railpage gallery, not sure. > Yes. I rather thought its that rail motor combine, that belongs to the > Paterson Group, that is running around NSW testing radio reception . Cannot [quoted text clipped - 40 lines] > > > line > > > > or http://members.optusnet.com.au/lambingflat/ for the family stuff! The expected over-the-counter price tag is in keeping with that of similar types of "big" steam locos currently available. Don't forget that the Garratt is in effect two locos in one. I'm confident that it will sell extremely well, and especially so once the Yanks get wind of it. I'll certainly go for one .....perhaps two! Allan Brown P.S. How's Trigger? > I notice everybody is talking about the "mystery train" which appears to > have a cow catcher both ends by the way! [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > > line > > > or http://members.optusnet.com.au/lambingflat/ for the family stuff! > The expected over-the-counter price tag is in keeping with that of similar > types of "big" steam locos currently available. Don't forget that the > Garratt is in effect two locos in one. I'm confident that it will sell > extremely well, and especially so once the Yanks get wind of it. I'll > certainly go for one .....perhaps two! Given that the mediocre Brass model of a Beyer-Garrett produced years ago will cost me about $ 1600 Cdn$ I will take two of the new ones. Bill Dixon |
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