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Paul - 28 Jun 2005 05:50 GMT
Hoping someone can give me some infomation on the OHG gaurds vans, mainly
the introduction date. Those trainorama vans look pretty good and am hoping
to fit them into my time era (1950-1959).

Cheers
paul........
James McInerney - 28 Jun 2005 09:14 GMT
> Hoping someone can give me some infomation on the OHG gaurds vans, mainly
> the introduction date. Those trainorama vans look pretty good and am hoping
> to fit them into my time era (1950-1959).

Paul, you may have to stretch your era a little bit...... ;-)

I would have to check my references to give exact dates but the OHGs
were introduced during the early to mid 1960s, (which is why Trainorama
are doing a Gunmetal version.....)  In the late '60s they were rebuilt
and recoded GHG, which co-incided with the decision to paint Guard's
vans red, so all the GHGs were red......

A couple of the OHGs managed to get repainted red before they were
rebuilt, which is why Trainorama are doing a red version.....

There were never very many OHGs, most of the GHGs were built new in the
late '60s/early 70s.....

From memory the transition to red vans started in '68 or '69 and the
fleet went red very quickly, (and the LHGs, SHG/BHG and most of the PHGs
were very quickly withdrawn and never wore red, and (most of?) the MHGs
were rebuilt before they went red)

For the benefit of those who haven't had a look at the Trainorama page
lately I have just added a couple of pictures (courtesy of Graham Ball)
of the pre-production samples of some of the Guard's vans and the SAR
LX.  The LXs, NVIF and the OHG are painted samples by Allan Brown.

James McInerney
Trainorama Webmaster: http://home.pacific.net.au/~tomshobbys/Trainorama.html

My G gauge garden homage to the now long gone railways of Tasmania's
west coast, the "Rurr Valley Railway"
http://www.cia.com.au/bullack/rvrtitle.html

also http://www.cia.com.au/bullack/ , where the steam era NSWGR
secondary lines live on in HO at bucolic "Lambing Flat"

and http://members.optusnet.com.au/lambingflat/ for the family stuff!
James McInerney - 28 Jun 2005 10:08 GMT
Further to NSWR goods Guard's vans in service during the 1960s.....

Code               In service 1963                    In service 1969
 HG             No entry             2
BHG              No entry            30
(SHG with high speed bogies)
CHG                90            91
EHG             No entry             4
(MHG with power generating equipment)
FHG             No entry            99
GHG             No entry            66
LHG                  140            71
MHG                  199            195
OHG                    6          No entry
PHG                  235            196
SHG                   73            27

Information from "Carry Capacity of Goods Wagons"  March 1963 and May 1969

I think that pretty much suggests that the OHGs had all been converted
to GHG by May 1969.....
               
James McInerney

My G gauge garden homage to the now long gone railways of Tasmania's
west coast, the "Rurr Valley Railway"
http://www.cia.com.au/bullack/rvrtitle.html

also http://www.cia.com.au/bullack/ , where the steam era NSWGR
secondary lines live on in HO at bucolic "Lambing Flat"

and http://members.optusnet.com.au/lambingflat/ for the family stuff!
Lambing Flat - 29 Jun 2005 01:46 GMT
Rule one of posting research information is...... CHECK BEFORE
POSTING!!!!   ;-)

The OHGs listed in the 1963 "Carry Capacity of Goods Wagons" are *not*
the same vehicle as the Trainorama model.  The OHGs in the 1963 list are
the last of the LHGs that hadn't been converted to auto couplings, (a
number retained hooks and screw couplings to facilitate their use on
stock trains, as up until the introduction of the (1959)BCWs and BSVs
most stock wagons were fitted with hooks and screw couplings)

The Trainorama OHGs were introduced in 1965 and had all been converted
to GHG by 1969.

In the interests of accuracy I have made a small addition to the list.....

Goods Guard's vans in service with the NSWR during the 1960s

Code            In service 1963      In service 1969
 HG               No entry              2
BHG               No entry             30
(SHG with high speed bogies)
CHG                     90             91
EHG               No entry              4
(MHG with power generating equipment)
FHG               No entry             99
GHG               No entry             66
LHG                    140             71
MHG                    199            195
OHG                      6           No entry
(LHG type still fitted with hooks and screw coupling)
PHG                    235            196
SHG                     73             27

Information from "Carry Capacity of Goods Wagons"  March 1963 and May 1969

Thank you to a certain eagle eyed reader who took great delight in
pointing out my mistake..... ;-)  I'm looking forward to returning the
favour John...... lol

James McInerney

My G gauge garden homage to the now long gone railways of Tasmania's
west coast, the "Rurr Valley Railway"
http://www.cia.com.au/bullack/rvrtitle.html

also http://www.cia.com.au/bullack/ , where the steam era NSWGR
secondary lines live on in HO at bucolic "Lambing Flat"

and http://members.optusnet.com.au/lambingflat/ for the family stuff!
Jack Russell - 29 Jun 2005 02:12 GMT
Of course none of this stops those who just like having fun running
whatever we like!

> Rule one of posting research information is...... CHECK BEFORE
> POSTING!!!!   ;-)
[quoted text clipped - 45 lines]
>
> and http://members.optusnet.com.au/lambingflat/ for the family stuff!
James McInerney - 29 Jun 2005 02:33 GMT
> Of course none of this stops those who just like having fun running
> whatever we like!

Quite so Jack......

But like any other perversion it shouldn't be done in public...... ;-)

James McInerney

My G gauge garden homage to the now long gone railways of Tasmania's
west coast, the "Rurr Valley Railway"
http://www.cia.com.au/bullack/rvrtitle.html

also http://www.cia.com.au/bullack/ , where the steam era NSWGR
secondary lines live on in HO at bucolic "Lambing Flat"

and http://members.optusnet.com.au/lambingflat/ for the family stuff!
steam3801 - 29 Jun 2005 03:33 GMT
>James McInerney
>
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>
>and http://members.optusnet.com.au/lambingflat/ for the family stuff!

>> Of course none of this stops those who just like having fun running
>> whatever we like!
>
>Quite so Jack......
>
>But like any other perversion it shouldn't be done in public...... ;-)

Well, at least not if it's going to frighten the horses ....

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