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mindesign - 02 Jul 2005 09:02 GMT
Hi all

Just wanting to let you know I am moving a bit of train gear on ..... doing
it on eBay

http://tinyurl.com/d6q43

Thanks

Steve
Birdman - 02 Jul 2005 14:14 GMT
URL doesnt work
John Turner - 02 Jul 2005 14:25 GMT
> URL doesnt work

It did for me.

John.
Jeff McGhie - 03 Jul 2005 15:20 GMT
>> URL doesnt work
>
> It did for me.
>
> John.

True, but delivery from Aus is gonna probably cost more than the item would
!
mindesign - 03 Jul 2005 23:39 GMT
Postage from Australia is among the cheapest in the world.

Cheaper than USA, UK and Canada. And with the exchange rate, it makes buying
from Australia very attractive when compared to the prices things fetch in
the UK. For example a 1 Kilogram parcel only costs 6.45GBP via sea or 9GBP
Air. That's the weight of two packed locos, therefore if a loco is worth
35GBP each on average, the additional cost is only between 3 and 4.5GBP.

I don't charge for packing labour or materials.

Thanks

Steve

>>> URL doesnt work
>>
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> True, but delivery from Aus is gonna probably cost more than the item
> would !
kim - 04 Jul 2005 00:19 GMT
> Postage from Australia is among the cheapest in the world.
>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> I don't charge for packing labour or materials.

Dear Steve,

You may not be aware - living in Australia - that all shipments to the UK
totalling 18GBP or above are charged VAT at 17.5% plus post office or
courier collection fee of at least 4.5GBP. That is why most of my imports
are broken down into as many small shipments as possible.

(kim)
mindesign - 04 Jul 2005 09:36 GMT
Hi Kim - thanks for the post

WOW what a rip off! We only get charged GST for personally imported items
valued at over $200....and even then I am yet to get hit with it at all.
In addition, how can a post office get away with charging a fee for getting
your parcel? Isn't that the point of a postal system - that the fee paid on
the stamp gets it to you or your post office?

strange and wonderful - or have I missed something as is likely?

Steve

>> Postage from Australia is among the cheapest in the world.
>>
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>
> (kim)
kim - 04 Jul 2005 09:56 GMT
> Hi Kim - thanks for the post
>
> WOW what a rip off! We only get charged GST for personally imported items
> valued at over $200....and even then I am yet to get hit with it at all.

That's becuase it costs the Australian govt more to collect tax on smaller
shipments than the revenue it generates and I'm not convinced the British
system is any more efficient.

> In addition, how can a post office get away with charging a fee for
> getting your parcel? Isn't that the point of a postal system - that the
> fee paid on the stamp gets it to you or your post office?

Royal Mail, Parcel Force and the private courier companies collect the tax
on behalf of HM Customs & Excise. They say the fee - which is on a sliding
scale and is much higher for more expensive items - is to purely cover their
expenses. Royal Mail refuses to deliver charged items to the door so there
is the additional expense of collecting them from the local sorting office.
For someone living in a remote area that could be considerable.

(kim)
John Turner - 04 Jul 2005 10:22 GMT
> Royal Mail, Parcel Force and the private courier companies collect the tax
> on behalf of HM Customs & Excise. They say the fee - which is on a sliding
> scale and is much higher for more expensive items - is to purely cover their
> expenses. Royal Mail refuses to deliver charged items to the door so there
> is the additional expense of collecting them from the local sorting office.
> For someone living in a remote area that could be considerable.

Total rip off in my opinion.

The last parcel I got from the USA resulted in a GBP3.75 VAT payment plus a
charge of GBP4.00 from Parcel Farce for collecting it!

Also because of the congested state of our roads it generally takes around
90 minutes to get to their office (only about 3 miles away), plus a wait as
the staff chat amongst themselves rather than concentrate on what they're
supposed to be doing.

John.
google@sheerstock.fsnet.co.uk - 04 Jul 2005 11:52 GMT
> > Hi Kim - thanks for the post
> >
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> is the additional expense of collecting them from the local sorting office.
> For someone living in a remote area that could be considerable.

You can have it delivered to your local post office for 50p.

Andrew
John Turner - 04 Jul 2005 12:10 GMT
> You can have it delivered to your local post office for 50p.

That's true, but in my case I'd already paid to have it delivered to my home
address I think the Post Office have a naffing cheek to even contemplate
such a charge.

In the good old days they would deliver such a packet to your door and
collect the duty.  Now it seems it's all too much trouble.

John
Ocean Springs - 04 Jul 2005 15:46 GMT
><snip<
> I think the Post Office have a naffing cheek to even contemplate
>such a charge.

What kind of cheek is a naffing cheek?
I don't know that word "naffing", although it does have a very negative ring to it.
I do hope it is not vulgar.
SM: Ocean Springs
http://www.oceanspringschamber.com/
Jane Sullivan - 04 Jul 2005 16:35 GMT
>><snip<
>> I think the Post Office have a naffing cheek to even contemplate
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>ring to it.
>I do hope it is not vulgar.

It comes from the expression "naff off" which originated in the BBC
television comedy series "Porridge" about some people who were banged up
at her majesty's pleasure. The story is that they wanted an expression
that was, er, vulgar, but wasn't one of the usual swear words, so
wouldn't precipitate thousands of complaints from Mr and Mrs Disgusted
of Tunbridge Wells.

So I'm afraid to say that in my opinion, yes, it is vulgar.

>SM: Ocean Springs
>http://www.oceanspringschamber.com/

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John Turner - 04 Jul 2005 17:05 GMT
> So I'm afraid to say that in my opinion, yes, it is vulgar.

But politely vulgar!  ;-)

John.
Ocean Springs - 04 Jul 2005 19:39 GMT
>>><snip<
>>> I think the Post Office have a naffing cheek to even contemplate
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
>>SM: Ocean Springs
>>http://www.oceanspringschamber.com/

Well, it is rather a nice, nasty-sounding word to use without being "officially"
crude and vulgar. Somewhat Monty Pythonish IMO.

waiting on pins & needles for the CLPs in N. A.,
SM: Ocean Springs
http://www.oceanspringschamber.com/
MartinS - 04 Jul 2005 20:13 GMT
>>Ocean Springs <argirode@mindspring.com> writes
>>>"John Turner" <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
> Well, it is rather a nice, nasty-sounding word to use without being
> "officially" crude and vulgar. Somewhat Monty Pythonish IMO.

Intercourse the penguin!

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Martin S.

Roger T. - 04 Jul 2005 20:27 GMT
"Ocean Springs"

> Well, it is rather a nice, nasty-sounding word to use without being
> "officially"
> crude and vulgar. Somewhat Monty Pythonish IMO.

Smeg!

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Cheers
Roger T.

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Jim Guthrie - 04 Jul 2005 16:53 GMT
>> I think the Post Office have a naffing cheek to even contemplate
>>such a charge.
>
>What kind of cheek is a naffing cheek?
>I don't know that word "naffing", although it does have a very negative ring to it.

I suspect that John has used it in place if f**king :-)

The verb to 'naff' is normally used as a replacement for the verb to
'f**k' :-)

Jim.
John Turner - 04 Jul 2005 17:06 GMT
> I suspect that John has used it in place if f**king :-)

Lol - you suspect wrong, it used naffing without any consideration of the
'king alternative.

John.
Rob Kemp - 06 Jul 2005 03:08 GMT
> I suspect that John has used it in place if f**king :-)
>
> The verb to 'naff' is normally used as a replacement for the verb to
> 'f**k' :-)

I think Ill go and Naff the wife then. :-)
Steve W - 06 Jul 2005 19:18 GMT
>> I suspect that John has used it in place if f**king :-)
>>
>> The verb to 'naff' is normally used as a replacement for the verb to
>> 'f**k' :-)
>>
> I think Ill go and Naff the wife then. :-)

Handy modelling tip: you might find it easier if you dismantle her first.

Cheers,
Steve
MartinS - 04 Jul 2005 18:59 GMT
>> You can have it delivered to your local post office for 50p.
>
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> In the good old days they would deliver such a packet to your door
> and collect the duty.  Now it seems it's all too much trouble.

The *only* things Canada Post delivers to my door are items requiring a
signature and/or a payment (e.g. tax and service fee on imports). I can
even pay the postie by credit card. If I'm not home I pick it up from
the nearest sub-post office - no additional charge. Everything else is
delivered to a so-called "super mailbox" down the end of the street.

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Martin S.

Ocean Springs - 04 Jul 2005 19:35 GMT
>>> You can have it delivered to your local post office for 50p.
>>
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>the nearest sub-post office - no additional charge. Everything else is
>delivered to a so-called "super mailbox" down the end of the street.

Rather like living in a large apartment building with a centrally located mail
center.

Here, we still get mail delivered to the mailbox at the street end of the driveway.
If it won't fit in the box, the mail carrier will drop it off on the front porch.
Rather a nice convenience, I think.

For anyone who doesn't already know, the driveway is where you park your auto.  The
parkway is where you drive it about.
Don't ask me, I don't make up the words, I just use them.
SM: Ocean Springs
http://www.oceanspringschamber.com/
Bruce Fletcher - 04 Jul 2005 20:44 GMT
> For anyone who doesn't already know, the driveway is where you park your auto.  The
> parkway is where you drive it about.

"auto" - automobile or autogyro?
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Bruce Fletcher
Stronsay, Orkney
<www.stronsay.co.uk/claremont>

Ocean Springs - 05 Jul 2005 02:55 GMT
>> For anyone who doesn't already know, the driveway is where you park your auto.  The
>> parkway is where you drive it about.
>
>"auto" - automobile or autogyro?

Good question, and one that clearly needed to be asked.  Ambiguity is the devil's
work and should be stamped out with vigor.
I was referring, of course, to an autoMOBILE, and not an autoGYRO, as I didn't
consider that one would drive about on the parkway in one's autogyro, but rather that
one would fly about in the airway with it.
http://www.gyrocopters.co.uk/html/merlin_gts_autogyro.html
http://www.americanautogyro.com/
I will concede, however, that both could be parked on the driveway.
I do hope that clears up any ambiguity.

SM: Ocean Springs
http://www.oceanspringschamber.com/
Bruce Fletcher - 05 Jul 2005 04:41 GMT
>>>For anyone who doesn't already know, the driveway is where you park your auto.  The
>>>parkway is where you drive it about.

>>"auto" - automobile or autogyro?

> Good question, and one that clearly needed to be asked.  Ambiguity is the devil's
> work and should be stamped out with vigor.
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> I will concede, however, that both could be parked on the driveway.
> I do hope that clears up any ambiguity.

It does indeed, thankyou <vbg>
Britain and North America appear to be seperated by a common language.
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Bruce Fletcher
Stronsay, Orkney
<www.stronsay.co.uk/claremont>

Jane Sullivan - 05 Jul 2005 08:14 GMT
>>>>For anyone who doesn't already know, the driveway is where you park
>>>>your auto.  The
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>It does indeed, thankyou <vbg>
>Britain and North America appear to be seperated by a common language.

This is another example of the American fetish for using a polysyllabic
word when a monosyllable would do the job much better. In the good old
UK, we would refer to the "car", and there would be no confusion.
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Ian Cornish - 05 Jul 2005 09:33 GMT
More likely the american's just want to be different... take boot and
trunk, pants and trousers etc etc.

>>>>> For anyone who doesn't already know, the driveway is where you park
>>>>> your auto.  The
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
> word when a monosyllable would do the job much better. In the good old
> UK, we would refer to the "car", and there would be no confusion.
kim - 05 Jul 2005 12:34 GMT
>>>>>For anyone who doesn't already know, the driveway is where you park
>>>>>your auto.  The
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
> word when a monosyllable would do the job much better. In the good old UK,
> we would refer to the "car", and there would be no confusion.

Trouble is in US parlance a 'car' is the passenger coach towed behind a
locomotive although more and more Americans these days are using it to
describe a road vehicle.

(kim)
mark_newton - 06 Jul 2005 03:24 GMT
>> This is another example of the American fetish for using a
>> polysyllabic word when a monosyllable would do the job much better.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> Trouble is in US parlance a 'car' is the passenger coach towed behind
> a locomotive

Or a freight vehicle - boxcar, hopper car, flat car, tank car...
Steve W - 05 Jul 2005 23:28 GMT
"Jane Sullivan" <jane@yddraiggoch.demon.co.uk> wrote in message > This is
another example of the American fetish for using a polysyllabic
> word when a monosyllable would do the job much better. In the good old UK,
> we would refer to the "car", and there would be no confusion.

Not in South London, we don't! Down here we drive about in our "motors"
(awight, John?). A "car" is something with flanged wheels that goes
backwards and forwards between Croydon and Wimbledon on our fabled Tramlink,
carrying "customers", whereas "passengers" are the people what sit in the
left-hand seat of our motors. Hope this clears up any confusion.

Cheers,
Steve
Ocean Springs - 06 Jul 2005 02:54 GMT
>"Jane Sullivan" <jane@yddraiggoch.demon.co.uk> wrote in message > This is
>another example of the American fetish for using a polysyllabic
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>Cheers,
>Steve

Indeed.  On the Gulf, Mobiile & Ohio railroad a "Motor" is what a diesel locomotives
was called. A "Motorcar" was the name for a track speeder, or section car.  I don't
have a clue what a track speeder is called in GB.

Motorcars:
http://www.railwaystation.com/trainsim/speeder.html
http://users.chariot.net.au/~nldoncas/nicspages/fairmnt.htm

SM: Ocean Springs
http://www.oceanspringschamber.com/
Jane Sullivan - 06 Jul 2005 09:01 GMT
>"Jane Sullivan" <jane@yddraiggoch.demon.co.uk> wrote in message > This is
>another example of the American fetish for using a polysyllabic
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>Cheers,
>Steve

I fough' tha' in Sarf Lunnun vey was called "mo'ors".
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Bruce Fletcher - 06 Jul 2005 20:52 GMT
 > I fough' tha' in Sarf Lunnun vey was called "mo'ors".

The glottal stop is very difficult to produce in written communication!
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Bruce Fletcher
Stronsay, Orkney
<www.stronsay.co.uk/claremont>

Jane Sullivan - 07 Jul 2005 10:07 GMT
> > I fough' tha' in Sarf Lunnun vey was called "mo'ors".
>
>The glottal stop is very difficult to produce in written communication!

True, but I must have got it right because you recognised it as such.
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Jane
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kim - 04 Jul 2005 12:49 GMT
>> > Hi Kim - thanks for the post
>> >
[quoted text clipped - 25 lines]
>
> You can have it delivered to your local post office for 50p.

I could if they hadn't closed them all!

My nearest post office is now the same distance from me as the sorting
office and the queue is a lot longer.

(kim)
Keith Norgrove - 04 Jul 2005 21:50 GMT
>> You can have it delivered to your local post office for 50p.
>
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
>(kim)

The last parcel that I recieved through Parcel Force I came home on
Wednesday to find a card stating that they couldn't deliver since
there was no-one home and would keep it for me at the depot for 4
days. (Not the Postal sorting office at the end of my street but the
depot in Romford). So OK I had Friday off to go away for a long
weekend and the following week would not be able to visit their
office.
So I accepted I would be late starting off for my weekend and went to
Romford first thing Friday. Only to be told that I couldn't have my
Parcel because they had put it back on the lorry to try a second
delivery!
When I came back to earth the arrangement was made to leave it at the
local post office, which would be on Monday since it seems their
drivers don't have mobile phones! (officially).
Getting back home late Monday night I discovered that the Friday
driver had left it in my meter cupboard so it had sat for 4 days for
anyone to take. (If the Wednsesday man had done that it would have
only been left about 3 hours and an awful lot of aggro saved.
And this parcel was sent by DHL at a premium rate and their
contribution was to hand it over to parcel force!

The Post Office is much better in my experience.
Keith

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Steve W - 02 Jul 2005 17:51 GMT
> URL doesnt work

Yes it does.
 
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