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Model Forum / General / Railroads / July 2005Eureka
There have been three models promised from Eureka but nothin g delivered yet. Now they are looking a rolling stock. Will we ever see anything. > There have been three models promised from Eureka but nothin g delivered yet. > Now they are looking a rolling stock. Will we ever see anything. I've seen the painted test shots of the railcars at the Epping (Sydney)Exhibition recently so the first model is definately on it's way...and from the look of it will be well worth the wait! There does seem to be delays involved with most RTR locos these days, usually from corrections to paint schemes or details. Can be a bit annoying when they keep putting the delivery date back, but I'd rather wait a bit longer and get the most accurate model possible. Byron Creek http://www.byroncreek.com >> There have been three models promised from Eureka but nothin g delivered yet. >> Now they are looking a rolling stock. Will we ever see anything. > >I've seen the painted test shots of the railcars at the Epping >(Sydney)Exhibition recently so the first model is definately on it's >way...and from the look of it will be well worth the wait! The evidence is at the start of the Eureka web page. Have a look at: http://eureka.m.bigpondhosting.com/ Hunslet The production samples have been here in Sydney and I have personally seen and photographed them. Delays are a part of this process in order to ensure the best quality and most accurate models. If you want the best then you just have to wait and these models will be good. Bob >>> There have been three models promised from Eureka but nothin g delivered >>> yet. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Hunslet I waited 20 years for the first decent ready to run steam (non brass) loco (Austrains 36). I am sure that I can wait a bit longer for what promises to be some great models! > The production samples have been here in Sydney and I have personally > seen and photographed them. Delays are a part of this process in order to [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] >> >>Hunslet I'm amazed how Eureka can announce and roll out all these new models when others already operating in the market could have done so already. I don't think the aussie HO market is big enough for three or four companies and who ever else wants to give it a try. Don't expect all these new offerings to last, I would buy now if u want them, they may not be around in 5 years. > I waited 20 years for the first decent ready to run steam (non brass) > loco (Austrains 36). I am sure that I can wait a bit longer for what [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > >> > >>Hunslet Tony, Yes you could be correct. I understand that rising cost in China and the possible re-valuation of the Chinese currency will make "quality" models (as distinct from toys) much more expensive in the not-to-distant future. It may be a "get-it-while-you-can" situation and would suggest that sceptics not wait too long before making a decision as you only need to look at the Austrains 36, one run of each type and that's all just like the brass models of earlier times. Bob > I'm amazed how Eureka can announce and roll out all these new models > when others already operating in the market could have done so already. [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] >> >> >> >>Hunslet Now this will be the problem, and what I fear the most. Already China and India are quickly adapting to Western ideas, in this last year we have seen China adding to the pressure on oil prices. I read that already China is consuming as much oil as the US was in 1974, and their demand will quickly overtake the Western World probably within 10 years. What then US$15 a gallon? China has been patiently working over the Western World. Recently an ABC show talked about A-Marts influence on the US Economy. A-Mart have swung 85% of their purchases to cheap Chinese imports. This has closed down almost all the small US manufacturers. China went shopping in the USA and bought up all the surplus machinery. Now the USA is in the position where they cannot easily setup manufacturing any more. Just like Australia. At the moment China is biding its time (oh! and building lots of power stations to keep up), but soon like you suggested the Politicos over there are going to spring their trap. Revaluation would gain them the most, but I suspect that $100 Au Microwaves and $200 Au 68cm TV's will soon be gone and countries like Australia will be in depression, as oil and very large price rises on all consumables arrive in the next ten years or less. ...oh and by then we will be thoroughly sick of the Liberals, who will sneak off into the sidelines, as a magic "It's Time!" or some other circus chant swings the ALP back in power for a few years, and sets them up to take all the blame for Liberal hard right policies etc etc etc.... I can see it all repeating and repeating like a mouthful of egg ugh! Good news, back on topic? Railways might get a boost, if the ALP have anything left to spend, after the Libs have sorted out all their mates. but cheers anyway :o))) > Tony, > Yes you could be correct. I understand that rising cost in China and [quoted text clipped - 44 lines] >>> >> >>> >>Hunslet Rod, You sound like a sceptic surely Mr Howard and Co have all the best interests of the good people of Australia at heart. Look how they want us to all share in Telstra and how they just love to help out the private sector in things like Child Care where if you set up a public company you can have the taxpayer contribute to your botom line in the form of Child Care benefits. Now of course these funds are not paid to the private operators but to struggling families but the net effect is still the same and the profits end up with the few all helped with the taxpayer dollar. Wish the government would help out my customers in the same way I could afford to buy more models. Sorry just a bit off modelling but couldn't help it. Bob Lynch > Now this will be the problem, and what I fear the most. > Already China and India are quickly adapting to Western ideas, in this [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > the Politicos over there are going to spring their trap. Revaluation would > gain Hey Bob! simply amazing! One other person can see it too :o)))) Sometimes, I really think that I am becoming paranoid...but no! I just wait for the crash, as prepared as I can be.. that is everything paid for, and hopefully enough hidden in the old biscuit tin to pay the rates, and to protect me from the anger and gnashing of teeth when the bad times come, as they surely must. I always remember the 60's "Credit Squeeze", and my Grand-ma used to tell me why these things happened. Do you know most of the houses lost (In any financial crash) were because of default of payment to the Banks, but very closely followed by default of payments to the Local Councils. Even homes fully owned could be lost. The same people who bought the houses at fire sale prices from the mortgagee auctions, also bought from the Local Council Auctions. These same people ran the Councils, as they do now. Yep! I believe it is coming, and about 1 in 1000 will be prepared, but the small pool of rich will get richer, and the rest of us slowly return to the comfortable (for the rich) pool of serfs working for a pittance under the Lords of the Land. Howard sets the Ball rolling tis year. He has no moral backbone, but he crawls up a bushy arse just like Menzies lusted after his "Lord of the Bath"" Cheers :o( Rod > Rod, > You sound like a sceptic surely Mr Howard and Co have all the best [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] >> the Politicos over there are going to spring their trap. Revaluation >> would gain At the risk of getting right off topic why do you think the Western leader's are suddenly interested in Africa. Not because they feel sorry for he poor buggers but because it could be the next source of cheap labour! > Hey Bob! > simply amazing! [quoted text clipped - 51 lines] >>>the Politicos over there are going to spring their trap. Revaluation >>>would gain Or oil! ............................Bill -- "I have not said this. I am not here". -The Navigator > At the risk of getting right off topic why do you think the Western > leader's are suddenly interested in Africa. Not because they feel sorry > for he poor buggers but because it could be the next source of cheap labour! I really believe oil is history. hundreds of patents taken out over 50 years have been bought and stored away, by the oil companies for the day when it advantages them to use them. In 1963, I left School and in that same year, I rode in an old Ford Customline that weighed 2 tonnes and used to have a V8 motor in it. Does anybody remember the Independent Petrol Station Between Laverton and Hoppers Crossing? It sold 10 different brands of Petrol, and survived many years after Shell and BP had closed this type of garage down, and turned all City garages into Corporate Clothed and owned identities. I think it had an old Air force plane on a plinth as part of the service Station? Anyway back to the old Ford... It had no motor that I could see. A shiny fuel tank round about 15 inch diameter and 2 feet long, was fixed to the firewall as high as it could be and allowing the bonnet to close. My memory tells me that the Auto transmission was still mounted but plated over and a metal "shoebox" device was mounted in the middle of this plate, Cables and wires a starter motor, pulleys and generator cables leading inside the car, accelerator pedal connected to the "simple carby and air cleaner which appeared to be filled with "cotton wool" The tank allowed fuel to bleed down into the air cleaner.The air sucked through this via the butterfly valve and this appeared to be all that fed the "engine" I am pretty certain that their was more to it than this but... The car accelerated briskly was engine silent and according to the owner was using about1 gallon of fuel per 100 miles. This guy sold his patent to Mobil and retained his Ford and his Independent Garage, and sufficient funds to make him very well off for life, or so he told my Dad. That was my introduction to deals and showed me how unimportant powerful people consider you and I to be Cheers Rod > Or oil! > ............................Bill [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >> for he poor buggers but because it could be the next source of cheap > labour! ouch! replying to my own ?? My Dad is still alive, and he does not totally agree with my memory of the last post, particularly connecting the Independent Garage with the inventions. But he did say, that the story was written up in Women's Weekly. He thinks the engine and first quick release safety snow skis were made by one of the people at our local Church in Braybrook, and said the story was actually featured in Women's Weekly. I wonder if it is possible to search stories from this magazine? I would be very interested in reading the article:o) Cheers Rod >I really believe oil is history. > hundreds of patents taken out over 50 years have been bought and stored > away, by the oil companies for the day when it advantages them to use > them. >I really believe oil is history. > hundreds of patents taken out over 50 years have been bought and stored > away, by the oil companies for the day when it advantages them to use > them. > > Cheers > Rod Patents have a fixed time period so when that time period expires, it is open go for anyone else. An example is the KD coupler patient. Cheers Peter Cokley >>I really believe oil is history. >> hundreds of patents taken out over 50 years have been bought and stored >> away, by the oil companies for the day when it advantages them to use >> them. > Patents have a fixed time period so when that time period expires, it is > open go for anyone else. An example is the KD coupler patient. In some cases the US now allows patent holders to renew them.., but I think that only applies to certain classes of patent and only relatively recent ones. A patent aquired by the oil industry 50 years ago for the purpose of killing the idea would have long expired and if it really was a viable idea, it would have resurfaced again. Most of these so called 'advances' that would have reduced dependence on oil products didn't work. >> Patents have a fixed time period so when that time period expires, it is >> open go for anyone else. An example is the KD coupler patient. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Most of these so called 'advances' that would have reduced dependence on > oil products didn't work. Yes, but you cant let a trivial detail like reality interfere with a good rant against the whole Neo con, industrio-military complex can you? Craig Jack ans all, We are a lot of cynical old buggers I can see that. Bob > At the risk of getting right off topic why do you think the Western > leader's are suddenly interested in Africa. Not because they feel sorry [quoted text clipped - 57 lines] >>>>suggested the Politicos over there are going to spring their trap. >>>>Revaluation would gain You are sh.t stirring Dominic...Pull your head in!! :o) Cheers > There have been three models promised from Eureka but nothin g delivered > yet. > Now they are looking a rolling stock. Will we ever see anything. Not sh.t stirring, just have a long memory of Protype days. Dom >You are sh.t stirring Dominic...Pull your head in!! :o) >Cheers >> There have been three models promised from Eureka but nothin g delivered >> yet. >> Now they are looking a rolling stock. Will we ever see anything. |
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