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Model Forum / Radio Controlled / Helicopters / July 2004Paddles on backwards
Just been looking at Ebay, £400 for this Raptor (No bids - surprise surprise) Professionally built, shame the builder put the paddles on backwards, includes an MDS 38, real class.....NOT. http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=2563&item=5909766528&rd=1 I always thought the front tailblade rose through the down wash as well?? so are the tail blades back to front as well > Just been looking at Ebay, £400 for this Raptor (No bids - surprise > surprise) Professionally built, shame the builder put the paddles on > backwards, includes an MDS 38, real class.....NOT. http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=2563&item=5909766528&rd=1 Sure looks like it but reading the text surely not, its been flying for 2.5 hours over 4 months and never crashed... The text from the add says all "You are bidding for a ready to fly Raptor 30 V2 Helicopter with Radio gear, Starting equipment & a few tools & spares, all worth around £1050. Just add fuel & sunny weather & she's ready to fly. It is in Mint condition & is only 4 months old, it has had no crashes or hard landings & has only flown for two & a half hours. Professionally built, setup & test flown. It has aMDS38 engine which has been run in. Radio gear is an Sanwa RD6000 sport & servos, this is a six channnel, four model unit, comes with Ni-Cad pack for Tx & Heli, also comes with charger. GWS PG-03 piezo gyro fitted & setup. A great model to start learning to fly or for 3D flying with a few small adjustments. Body & fins painted by myself but new body & fins come with the Helo. Remote glow clip & battery charging connection fitted to allow for ease of starting & flying. Inline fuel filters fitted all round. Accessories include, Blade caddy, Two enya glow plugs, Inline fuel filter, Plug & multi-tool spanner & Allen keys. Starting equipment includes Hand operateted fuel pump, Clipon glow plug starter & charger, Irvine Hi torque 12 Volt electric starter & starting bar with one-way bearings. If you have any questions please email me. I have more photos on request. Winning bidder pays all P&P. Happy Bidding" > I always thought the front tailblade rose through the down wash as well?? so > are the tail blades back to front as well > > Just been looking at Ebay, £400 for this Raptor (No bids - surprise > > surprise) Professionally built, shame the builder put the paddles on > > backwards, includes an MDS 38, real class.....NOT. http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=2563&item=5909766528&rd=1 I am trying to add up the value that he claims, some model shop must be rubbing their hands with this guy. Why has it got a nice purple tail boom if its never been crashed. > Sure looks like it but reading the text surely not, its been flying for 2.5 > hours over 4 months and never crashed... [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > > > surprise) Professionally built, shame the builder put the paddles on > > > backwards, includes an MDS 38, real class.....NOT. http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=2563&item=5909766528&rd=1 I did ask the seller why the paddles are back to front after being built by a" professional" no answer as yet Kevin > I am trying to add up the value that he claims, some model shop must be > rubbing their hands with this guy. [quoted text clipped - 45 lines] > > > > surprise) Professionally built, shame the builder put the paddles on > > > > backwards, includes an MDS 38, real class.....NOT. http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=2563&item=5909766528&rd=1 > I did ask the seller why the paddles are back to front after being built by > a" professional" no answer as yet Now ask him why the tail blades are arse about face too. You'll probably get TOTALLY ignored:-)  SignatureBeav Please note my E-mail address is "beavis dot original at ntlworld dot com" (with the obvious changes) Beavisland now lives at www.beavisoriginal.co.uk hes ignoring me on the first question anyway Kevin > > I did ask the seller why the paddles are back to front after being built > by > > a" professional" no answer as yet > > Now ask him why the tail blades are arse about face too. You'll probably get > TOTALLY ignored:-) > hes ignoring me on the first question anyway It's generally what happens Kev. SignatureBeav Please note my E-mail address is "beavis dot original at ntlworld dot com" (with the obvious changes) Beavisland now lives at www.beavisoriginal.co.uk >>hes ignoring me on the first question anyway > > It's generally what happens Kev. The description has been revised... it now ends with "I have recently fitted a new stainless steel flybar and the helicopter was test flown this saturday having put the paddles the right way around" He's obviously had a few questions on this... Personally, I think the paint scheme is pretty nice - at least it's different :) Colin > I always thought the front tailblade rose through the down wash as well?? so > are the tail blades back to front as well Indeed they are, and yoou've REALLY got to love the thinking behind the paint "scheme". Every part is different from any of it's partners:-) Seems like a bit of a "Heli bits glued as one" type of thing to me, AND done by someone who couldn't build a heli if his lfe depended on it. SignatureBeav Please note my E-mail address is "beavis dot original at ntlworld dot com" (with the obvious changes) Beavisland now lives at www.beavisoriginal.co.uk > Just been looking at Ebay, £400 for this Raptor (No bids - surprise > surprise) Professionally built, shame the builder put the paddles on > backwards, includes an MDS 38, real class.....NOT. > > http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=2563&item=5909766528&rd=1 Eh.. fly 3D using a heli with GWS PG-03 gyro ... and paddles+tail rotor backwards? He must indeed be a professional flyer... can fly anything. Maybe he will works magic with a properly built heli with a better gyro. The power and reliability from the MDS engine helps him a lot. Curtis, Jason and all the others need to watch their backs with this star. > > Just been looking at Ebay, £400 for this Raptor (No bids - surprise > > surprise) Professionally built, shame the builder put the paddles on > > backwards, includes an MDS 38, real class.....NOT. http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=2563&item=5909766528&rd=1 > Eh.. fly 3D using a heli with GWS PG-03 gyro ... and paddles+tail rotor > backwards? He must indeed be a professional flyer... can fly anything. > > Maybe he will works magic with a properly built heli with a better gyro. > Eh.. fly 3D using a heli with GWS PG-03 gyro ... and paddles+tail rotor > backwards? He must indeed be a professional flyer... can fly anything. > > Maybe he will works magic with a properly built heli with a better gyro. Umm... This is in the auction... "I have recently fitted a new stainless steel flybar and the helicopter was test flown this saturday having put the paddles the right way around" So, he installed a new flybar, made a mistake, took the photos, and then fixed the problem and tested... What's the problem with that? Eric > > Eh.. fly 3D using a heli with GWS PG-03 gyro ... and paddles+tail rotor > > backwards? He must indeed be a professional flyer... can fly anything. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Eric nothing but the tail blades are on backwards as well???????? Kevin > nothing but the tail blades are on backwards as well???????? Mirror photo? Mirroring the photo wouldn't make any difference. The front half of the tail rotor disk is either turning upward, into the main rotor downwash, or it's not. I've seen the photo, and tail rotor blades are mounted backwards from what they should be. Of course, he could have the belt drive twisted in the wrong direction, thus turning the tail rotor backward from what it should be, so the blades would be mounted correctly in this case but the point is, the model is "not" setup to factory specs. FWIW!, Fly Safe, Steve R. > > nothing but the tail blades are on backwards as well???????? > > Mirror photo? So lets get this straight, never crashed, paddles on backwards, new tail boom, tal blades on backwards. So thats the tr.................................uth Yea right.. > > nothing but the tail blades are on backwards as well???????? > > Mirror photo? > > nothing but the tail blades are on backwards as well???????? > > Mirror photo? Not you selling it is it Eric? > Not you selling it is it Eric? No, no. Just grinning at all the speculation around the auction, and playing devil's advocate. Although, I wonder about the new flybar, in light of a statement of no crashes or hard landings. Eric > > Eh.. fly 3D using a heli with GWS PG-03 gyro ... and paddles+tail rotor > > backwards? He must indeed be a professional flyer... can fly anything. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > So, he installed a new flybar, made a mistake, took the photos, and then > fixed the problem and tested... What's the problem with that? He forgot to polish all that rust too:-) That machine looks FRIGHTENINGLY like a 1980's Heim Star ranger, but "something" doesn't make me guarantee it, but whatever it is, it's not a 3D machine although in it's day it WAS regarded as a pure "Hooligan" heli. That's assuming it IS a Heim. SignatureBeav Please note my E-mail address is "beavis dot original at ntlworld dot com" (with the obvious changes) Beavisland now lives at www.beavisoriginal.co.uk > > > Eh.. fly 3D using a heli with GWS PG-03 gyro ... and paddles+tail rotor > > > backwards? He must indeed be a professional flyer... can fly anything. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > That machine looks FRIGHTENINGLY like a 1980's Heim Star ranger, Well it WOULD be if I was looking at the right pigging heli :-)))) SignatureBeav Please note my E-mail address is "beavis dot original at ntlworld dot com" (with the obvious changes) Beavisland now lives at www.beavisoriginal.co.uk Cor, The bidding has ended with no bids. At the price (£400) did it include CY's left thumb? > > > > Eh.. fly 3D using a heli with GWS PG-03 gyro ... and paddles+tail > rotor [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Well it WOULD be if I was looking at the right pigging heli :-)))) > Cor, The bidding has ended with no bids. Shock horror :-))) SignatureBeav Please note my E-mail address is "beavis dot original at ntlworld dot com" (with the obvious changes) Beavisland now lives at www.beavisoriginal.co.uk |
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