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I will repeat the mantra of what has been stated many times in this forum...
1.Start out by getting a simulator (like real Flight) and practice your butt
off with that.
2. find a local club and talk with the more experienced people. See what
gear they have. Chances are a) it's decent gear if they have it and b) They
can help you with yours because they have the same gear.
3. Electrics do not make a good beginner helicopter. Start of with a 30 size
nitro burner because they are more stable than the electrics and cheaper to
repair than larger sized craft. Put some training gear on it and burn lots
of fuel practicing, practicing, practicing.
4. Be prepared to spend money. This hobby is not cheap.
5. Safety! Do Not fly around bystanders. Fly at a field specified for
flying or far away from anyone. Helicopters can KILL.
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Steve R. - 28 Oct 2004 02:03 GMT
Sounds like good advise to me!
Good luck & Fly Safe,
Steve R.
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> flying or far away from anyone. Helicopters can KILL.
kodi946 - 28 Oct 2004 05:01 GMT
Sounds like the plan I followed. I met two guys that were flying Thunder
Tiger Raptor 30's in the fall of 02. I decided to try helis so I practiced
on Realflight G2 during the winter of 02-03. (Don't just play on the sim
PRACTICE. Make up drills and do them daily) I bought a TT Raptor 30 v2, OS
32, Futaba 401 gyro/digital servo combo and Futaba 9202 servos in the spring
of 03. While assembling the heli I would practice on the sim and go to the
field and ask a lot of question about the heli, flight procedures,
programming the radio, ect. When I got it together in April of 03 I took it
to the field and had one of the guys test fly it for me. Only after
developing a lot of confidence on the sim did I start to fly the heli.
First hovering then taxing and finally forward flight. (I used a hula hoop
during the hovering and taxing stages) At any stage that I had trouble I
went back to the sim. When I started forward flight left turns were giving
me trouble. So the first day I made only right turns which will aggravate
any instructor. Remember its YOUR helicopter and YOU make the call when you
are ready for the next step... don't push it. That night I went home and
made all left turns on the sim. The next day I was comfortable turning left
or right. You don't want to wreck the heli and become frustrated or loose
interest. Accidents will happen but are more accepted when you stick to a
procedure and don't let your ego get ahead of you skills. I learned to fly
model helicopter flying G2, but I still had to get comfortable flying Helis
by flying my Raptor. The point is to do as much of the learning (by this I
mean stick and rudder stuff) on the sim as you can. Its cheaper than buying
fuel and you don't risk your heli. However, no matter how good you get on
the sim you WILL still have to put in time fly your heli to get comfortable
with it.
I think Steve has outlined a good plan of attack. You can start out with 1
and 2 right away. Remember to have a instructor test fly your heli for the
first time. Also fly under the supervision of an instructor till you are
comfortable in forward flight.
Good luck
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Glen Peden - 28 Oct 2004 06:31 GMT
> 3. Electrics do not make a good beginner helicopter.
That is not true..... Lots of people begin with electric heli's. A few
months with a Corona is one of the best routes for a beginner. So is a
LOGO 10 and a good simulator.
>Start of with a 30 size
> nitro burner because they are more stable than the electrics
Now that is complete baloney. How can you say that an 8.5 pound LOGO 20
swinging 600 mm blades at 1800 rpm is any less stable than an 8.5 pound
Raptor 50? I bet that the Raptor 30 is no more stable than the slightly
smaller LOGO 10, which is a brilliant helicopter! Do you think the heli
knows what is powering it and changes its flight characteristics to
suit? Please stop spreading old wives tales :)

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Who - 28 Oct 2004 20:57 GMT
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> suit? Please stop spreading old wives tales :)
I agree with Glen
I fly an ECO 8 which might be a bit smaller than a 30 but is very stable
when set up right.
As for learning on an electric in your back yard, it is so much easier, you
don't have the hassle of trying to start up and set up the motor, messy
fuel, noise, smoke, complaining neighbours!
Plus with an electric you can hook it up to a car battery and practice your
hovering for hours, or until your motor burns out, which ever is sooner :(
It is people who have never flown an electric who don't know what they are
like.
Also people immediately associate electric helicopters with the micro's
which are VERY HARD to fly!!
Guy's please don't knock the electrics until you have tried them
cheers
Ian
Steve G - 29 Oct 2004 02:55 GMT
Yes, good point. Electrics, if large as a 30, are ok.
The micro electrics are bad for beginners.
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Glen Peden - 30 Oct 2004 20:34 GMT
Hi,
Yes, micro's are cheap, but they are tedious for beginners - to the
point that less learning gets done. When I started, I had both an LMH
110 converted to electric (basically a Corona) to fly outdoors in the
winter and a F/P Piccolo. I got a way more flying done with the outdoor
heli, like about 12 hours air time in the first 3 months. At that time
though, there was a Piccolo parts shortage for short period. I have
another micro-heli, the Hornet CP, and while it is a joy to fly, there's
a WAY more tinkering involved and I would not recommend it over a larger
heli for a beginner.
> Yes, good point. Electrics, if large as a 30, are ok.
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Alan - 29 Oct 2004 09:55 GMT
I'm with you on this one...I thouroughly enjoyed flying my Logo 10. It's a
very stable heli and a good one to learn on. Duration is the issue, but with
lipols dropping in price all the time they are a very practicle entry point
into the hobby. I took my Logo with me all last summer when I was working
away from home and many evenings found a field and flew a couple of packs.
Great fun!

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ok im new and im still learning to fly my piccolo (micro electric) whic
is a little difficult to learn on, but after doing some reasearch i
seems to me that electric like logo is more expensix
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