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Simon Robbins - 24 Dec 2005 00:27 GMT
I just bought Reflex XTR today.  Are there any good websites out there with
additional setup advice for optimal realism?   I've got it all working but
the Raptor 30 doesn;t behave at all like the one I used to own.  Far too
squirrely, like there's no control or helicopter inertia at all.  Mine would
maintain a hands off hover for 20 seconds or so, with this it'll be a
hundred yards away and oscillating all over the field..

Also looking for a Raptor 60 and T-Rex XL models if any are out there.
Google just returned dead links.

Cheers,

Si
John Banks - 24 Dec 2005 09:40 GMT
>I just bought Reflex XTR today.  Are there any good websites out there with
> additional setup advice for optimal realism?   I've got it all working but
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> Also looking for a Raptor 60 and T-Rex XL models if any are out there.
> Google just returned dead links.

http://www.rc-sim.de/index_en.htm

J.
Nigel Heather - 24 Dec 2005 14:13 GMT
To improve the stability you can do the following

Hit F11 to get Model Physical Parameters (you can also do Model>Modify
Physical Parameters)

Select the Main Rotor Tab

Reduce the value for 'Hovering Instability'
Reduce the value for 'Rotor Head Vividness'

Also, since XTR works from your transmitter then your actual transmitter
settings for ATVs, Rates, Exponential will also have an effect.

I.E. if you want a softer model, reduce the ATVs and add some exponential
(say 30%) on the cyclic (Aileron and Elevator).

Cheers,

Nigel
Simon Robbins - 24 Dec 2005 15:41 GMT
> To improve the stability you can do the following
>
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> I.E. if you want a softer model, reduce the ATVs and add some exponential
> (say 30%) on the cyclic (Aileron and Elevator).

Thanks for the tips.  I had messed around with the ATVs on my radio, but I'd
like to retain the manoueverability whilst gaining stability.  Your
suggestion for Hovering Instability and Vividness sounds like it'll do the
job perfectly.

Another question, if I may:  Do you know whether the piezo gyro modelled in
the sim is always assumed to be a heading hold gyro?  The reason I ask is
that it looks like I need to add some revolution mixing to the radio setup
on lower gain settings, but not on higher ones.  I assume the sim's model
itself doesn't perform any automatic mixing?

Cheers,

Si
Nigel Heather - 24 Dec 2005 17:31 GMT
The gyros act as following

(i) Mechanical  >  Rate Only - slow
(ii) Piezo  >  Rate Only - faster
(iii) Piezo-Integral  >  Like a modern Heading Hold.  It can be switched
between Rate and Heading Hold controlled by the Gyro sensitivity (F5 to
set) - below 50% = RATE, above 50% = Heading Hold - i.e like a Futaba 401.
Around 50% is no gyro at all, so approach 100% for high gain HH and 0% for
high gain rate.

You can also assign a transmitter channel to Gyro Sensitivity (use F7).  For
example, I mimic my real set up and assign channel 5 using a switch to Gyro
Sensitivity.  I set the ATVs of the switch to 80 and 20 so I can switch
between 20% (high gain Rate) and 80% (high gain HH).

Cheers,

Nigel

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> Si
 
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