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Kick a.s RC Turbine Heli and its HUGE!!

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Dude - 15 Jan 2006 05:54 GMT
So you like Heli's. What about a Custom made RC Heli about the size of
a Golf Cart that is powered by a Turbine Engine. Just an amazing job of

engineering and construction. Check out this guys Toy and start to
druel..
http://www.pm-video.at/video/video.php

Chris
The OTHER Kevin in San Diego - 15 Jan 2006 18:14 GMT
>So you like Heli's. What about a Custom made RC Heli about the size of
>a Golf Cart that is powered by a Turbine Engine. Just an amazing job of
>
>engineering and construction. Check out this guys Toy and start to
>druel..
>http://www.pm-video.at/video/video.php

I just don't have the patience to sit through 3 minutes of "credits"
waiting for the real action..  The cutting in and out of the turbine
noise is annoying as hell too...  Someone let me know how it flies..
FiDo - 15 Jan 2006 18:47 GMT
An impressive project, BUT..............
It flew like a tail heavy pig with a badly setp up throttle and pitch curve,
with a drifting tail.

>>So you like Heli's. What about a Custom made RC Heli about the size of
>>a Golf Cart that is powered by a Turbine Engine. Just an amazing job of
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> waiting for the real action..  The cutting in and out of the turbine
> noise is annoying as hell too...  Someone let me know how it flies..
Dude - 16 Jan 2006 03:56 GMT
" just don't have the patience to sit through 3 minutes of "credits"
waiting for the real action..  The cutting in and out of the turbine
noise is annoying as hell too...  Someone let me know how it flies.. "

You can download the video and skip to the building and flying parts..

"An impressive project, BUT..............
It flew like a tail heavy pig with a badly setp up throttle and pitch
curve,
with a drifting tail."

Keep in mind it was his first flight with it and he was still trying to
dial in the Trim and setting im sure. If you just took 6 months and
many thousnads of dollars to build would you just go full throttle on
take off and try and put it through the paces? Not me.

Chris
The OTHER Kevin in San Diego - 16 Jan 2006 17:27 GMT
>You can download the video and skip to the building and flying parts..

If if had been downloading at a reasonable rate, I would have done
that, but at 13k/sec??  Must've been the rest of you all trying to
view it at the same time and clogging up his poor server.  :)

>"An impressive project, BUT..............
>It flew like a tail heavy pig with a badly setp up throttle and pitch
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>many thousnads of dollars to build would you just go full throttle on
>take off and try and put it through the paces? Not me.

If I wanted a really cool crash video, sure.  heheh
Doug McLaren - 16 Jan 2006 22:09 GMT
| An impressive project, BUT..............
| It flew like a tail heavy pig with a badly setp up throttle and pitch curve,
| with a drifting tail.

Just like my little electric heli! :)

(but that problem is at least as much me as the equipment.)

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Steve R - 19 Jan 2006 04:46 GMT
The initial hover flights looked that way but they were, after all,
"initial" hover flights.  The slow figure 8's he was doing by the end of the
video looked pretty good to me.

Also, if you've never flown a multi-bladed flybarless head, they can be
significantly different from what we're used to with our two bladed, flybar
systems.  It's also a LOT heavier than anything most of have, or ever will,
fly.  All in all, I think he did a pretty good job on the flying part.

The only thing I'll pick nits with is the fact that, unless they do things
differently in Austria, he's got his navigation lights on the wrong side.
Toward the end of the vid, it sure looks like he's got green on the left or
port side.  I thought that was universally supposed to be on the right or
starboard side?

FWIW!  ;-)

Fly Safe,
Steve R.

> An impressive project, BUT..............
> It flew like a tail heavy pig with a badly setp up throttle and pitch
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>> waiting for the real action..  The cutting in and out of the turbine
>> noise is annoying as hell too...  Someone let me know how it flies..
The OTHER Kevin in San Diego - 19 Jan 2006 05:46 GMT
>The initial hover flights looked that way but they were, after all,
>"initial" hover flights.  The slow figure 8's he was doing by the end of the
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
>Fly Safe,
>Steve R.

I don't know about the Universe, but I think at least internationally
it's green on the starboard (right) and red on the port (left)...

Impressive project and I'd dearly love to fly the full scale version
of one of those some day...  (Flying these R22s is getting old..
hehe)  I'd like to see more video as the bugs are worked out, but for
Pete's sake (and who the F is Pete anyways??) get a different editor
to piece together the intro stuff...
Smeghead - 19 Jan 2006 08:54 GMT
If you think flying 22s is getting old come muster some cattle with one in
central Australia. The old cows get pushed along with the skids, flying
under trees and power lines (hopefully not through them but it has happened
to a friend of mine). enough to give even the most seasoned pilot white
knuckles.  ;-)

>>The initial hover flights looked that way but they were, after all,
>>"initial" hover flights.  The slow figure 8's he was doing by the end of
[quoted text clipped - 28 lines]
> Pete's sake (and who the F is Pete anyways??) get a different editor
> to piece together the intro stuff...
The OTHER Kevin in San Diego - 19 Jan 2006 17:06 GMT
>If you think flying 22s is getting old come muster some cattle with one in
>central Australia. The old cows get pushed along with the skids, flying
>under trees and power lines (hopefully not through them but it has happened
>to a friend of mine). enough to give even the most seasoned pilot white
>knuckles.  ;-)

When I was earning my private, my instructor chased a small coyote for
about 20 minutes.  Fun as hell, but at the time I had a hard enough
time just flying straight and level.  No way I was going to try that
at the time.

Now?  I think herding cattle might be kinda fun in a helicopter.
Beav - 19 Jan 2006 23:46 GMT
>>The initial hover flights looked that way but they were, after all,
>>"initial" hover flights.  The slow figure 8's he was doing by the end of
[quoted text clipped - 28 lines]
> Pete's sake (and who the F is Pete anyways??) get a different editor
> to piece together the intro stuff...

Try Peter Wales. (I can't remember his URL, but he builds some EXCELLENT
scale turbine powered heli's.

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Steve R - 19 Jan 2006 23:55 GMT
>>>The initial hover flights looked that way but they were, after all,
>>>"initial" hover flights.  The slow figure 8's he was doing by the end of
[quoted text clipped - 32 lines]
> Try Peter Wales. (I can't remember his URL, but he builds some EXCELLENT
> scale turbine powered heli's.

I'm not sure Mr. Wales is the "Pete" he's refering to ;-), but you're right,
Peter Wales does build some of the finest examples of scale model
helicopters around.  I've been fortunate enough to scrutinize some of his
work at the AMA Nat's.  "Impressive" doesn't even begin to describe them!
<big thumbs up!>

Fly Safe,
Steve R.
The OTHER Kevin in San Diego - 20 Jan 2006 01:13 GMT
>> Impressive project and I'd dearly love to fly the full scale version
>> of one of those some day...  (Flying these R22s is getting old..
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>Try Peter Wales. (I can't remember his URL, but he builds some EXCELLENT
>scale turbine powered heli's.

I saw his Lama build up on his web site.  Wish I had that kind of time
to devote to anything....  
Beav - 19 Jan 2006 23:44 GMT
> An impressive project, BUT..............
> It flew like a tail heavy pig with a badly setp up throttle and pitch
> curve,

Throttle's automatic (governed by the ECU of the turbine), but the
collective looks to be a tad out of whack.

> with a drifting tail.

Well it IS a new heli, so trimming probably hasn't be finalised just yet.

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FiDo - 20 Jan 2006 00:58 GMT
Hello Mr. Beavis,

If it was ME doing the maiden flight, I'd have a to change me
pants............

To be honest, I've seen vid clips of this project after it's been trimmed
etc and it flies just great.

Just trying to be a poop stirrer. Who, me  ?

P.S. Glad you're not dead, was worried, you've been a bit quiet lately.

> OMF#19
> VN 750
> Zed Thou

Is this Northern for "I'd like curry sauce on my rice cake baps please" ?
WTF ?

>> An impressive project, BUT..............
>> It flew like a tail heavy pig with a badly setp up throttle and pitch
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> Well it IS a new heli, so trimming probably hasn't be finalised just yet.
Beav - 21 Jan 2006 23:24 GMT
> Hello Mr. Beavis,
>
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> P.S. Glad you're not dead, was worried, you've been a bit quiet lately.

Dead? Me? I f.cking hope not or my batteries are going to be royally shagged
very shortly. They've been on charge since I last used the heli.

>> OMF#19
>> VN 750
>> Zed Thou
>
> Is this Northern for "I'd like curry sauce on my rice cake baps please" ?
> WTF ?

Is *what* Northern for "I'd like curry....."?

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Beav - 19 Jan 2006 23:42 GMT
>>So you like Heli's. What about a Custom made RC Heli about the size of
>>a Golf Cart that is powered by a Turbine Engine. Just an amazing job of
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> waiting for the real action..  The cutting in and out of the turbine
> noise is annoying as hell too...  Someone let me know how it flies..

Like a total dog, but it still looks like the dogs bollocks:-) I suspect the
owner is a bit concerned that about the amount of money he's got flying to
really wring its neck though.

The Bolkow tends to sit tail down (full size), but that model seems to sit
too far down and it looks very pitch sensitive. A sure fire symptom of a C/G
too far back. Shame really.

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Steve R - 19 Jan 2006 23:51 GMT
>>>So you like Heli's. What about a Custom made RC Heli about the size of
>>>a Golf Cart that is powered by a Turbine Engine. Just an amazing job of
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> too far down and it looks very pitch sensitive. A sure fire symptom of a
> C/G too far back. Shame really.

Could definitely be CG issues.  Something else I'm wondering about is, the
exhaust on the turbine looks like it's aimed pretty much straight back.  If
so, it's still putting out a few pounds of thrust in that direction and the
only way to hold it back is to rock the rotor disk in the aft direction.
Isn't that why they have those "Y'd" exhaust pipes on the pod and boom
versions?

Just a thought?

Fly Safe,
Steve R.
Beav - 21 Jan 2006 23:26 GMT
>>>>So you like Heli's. What about a Custom made RC Heli about the size of
>>>>a Golf Cart that is powered by a Turbine Engine. Just an amazing job of
[quoted text clipped - 23 lines]
>
> Just a thought?

That was the issue Peter Wales had with his first turbne heli (a modified
Futura IIRC). Until he had a deflector system made, it needed a fair handful
of back stick to stop it haring off into the distance.

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FiDo - 21 Jan 2006 23:46 GMT
MOTORBIKES !

Have you got an Itchi-fanni 650 ?

> OMF#19
> VN 750
> Zed Thou
Beav - 22 Jan 2006 10:29 GMT
> MOTORBIKES !
>
> Have you got an Itchi-fanni 650 ?

I've got an address for anyone needing reading lessons, if that's any help.

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