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The OTHER Kevin in San Diego - 22 Apr 2006 07:51 GMT
Picked up G3 a few days ago after a co-worker offered me $100 for my
old G2..  What the hell?  G3 for an effective price of $100?  I'll try
it...

Install was cake, getting the addons to work was wierd.  They kept
disappearing for lack of a better word.  I'd get 'em installed and all
but Volume 3 would disappear out of the aircraft "tree".  Had to
uninstall everything and reinstall to get 'em back.

1st impressions?  BFD...  Ooh, the leaves on the trees move..  The
blimp is kinda cool if you really jack up the power..  Slope soaring
is decent..  Smoke doesn't work on all the aircraft that it used to.
Helicopters seem a lot easier to fly except for the scale models.  All
of 'em seem to be tail heavy and I can't even get the JetRanger
w/scale head off the ground as it's T/R doesn't seem to work and it
requires full aft cyclic to keep it from nosing over as it spools up.

Autos are much better but there's too much inertia in the rotors
compared to the few "real" autos I've done in the past.  Dunno?  Tip
weighted carbon fiber blades??

Lots of tweaks for the aircraft and some of the settings are a bit
confusing at first, but workable.

The ability to finally plug my 9CHP into the sim and fly "MY* radio is
nice, but is it worth the "upgrade"?  I don't know..  Yes, the airport
editor is easy to use and it does look a LOT better, but the flying
doesn't "feel" much different..  It would have been nice if GP had
offered we G2 users a decent upgrade path instead of forcing us to
shell out full retail for it.

I'm kinda wishing I'd kept the G2 and put the $100 towards helicopter
parts....  (Wish I could play with Reflext and AeroFly...)
Steve R - 22 Apr 2006 22:02 GMT
Interesting, Kevin.  Don't know what to tell you.  I've played with a couple
of systems with G2 and they were POS's compared to G3 on my personal
computer.  It might have had something to do with the systems that were
running G2 vs. my own computer but, as far as helicopters were concerned,
I've found that G3's dynamics are much better than the G2 environments I've
played with.

As for setups and such, G3 will let you do a lot of stuff but it's
definitely NOT intuitive.  Took me a long time to figure out how to get to,
and adjust, pitch and throttle curves.  Once I got it, it worked fine.

I've only got one upgrade on my install of G3.  Some of the extra airplanes
are Ok.  I've got one turbine jet that's a hoot.  It flys so fast that it
scoots right off the end of the screen!  :-/  The "panning" of the image
can't seem to keep up.  Once you loose sight if the aircraft, it's all over.
Hard to control an RC aircraft you can't see!  Beyond that, the base install
has always worked just fine for me.

Good luck,
Steve R.

> Picked up G3 a few days ago after a co-worker offered me $100 for my
> old G2..  What the hell?  G3 for an effective price of $100?  I'll try
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> I'm kinda wishing I'd kept the G2 and put the $100 towards helicopter
> parts....  (Wish I could play with Reflext and AeroFly...)
The OTHER Kevin in San Diego - 23 Apr 2006 05:40 GMT
>Interesting, Kevin.  Don't know what to tell you.  I've played with a couple
>of systems with G2 and they were POS's compared to G3 on my personal
>computer.  It might have had something to do with the systems that were
>running G2 vs. my own computer but, as far as helicopters were concerned,
>I've found that G3's dynamics are much better than the G2 environments I've
>played with.

I played with the Raptor model quite a bit last night and based on my
limited experience with the Raptor (My own isn't flying yet as I've
been tweaking my Blade in a large and not-inexpensive way..heheh)
shows G3 models its flight pretty well.  Still it took a bit of
tweaking to make it fly "right" and yeah, it wasn't very intuitive.  I
think the "tree" method is the new standard for tweaking application
settings as prety much everythig uses a similar interface now days.  I
don't care for it much.

>As for setups and such, G3 will let you do a lot of stuff but it's
>definitely NOT intuitive.  Took me a long time to figure out how to get to,
>and adjust, pitch and throttle curves.  Once I got it, it worked fine.

I finally got the Bladelike model to actually fly like the Blade,
(well, pretty close) but like I imagine you experienced, it took quite
some time to find all the tweaks to get the pitch curves set up how
I've got 'em on the real machine.

>I've only got one upgrade on my install of G3.  Some of the extra airplanes
>are Ok.  I've got one turbine jet that's a hoot.  It flys so fast that it
>scoots right off the end of the screen!  :-/  The "panning" of the image
>can't seem to keep up.  Once you loose sight if the aircraft, it's all over.
>Hard to control an RC aircraft you can't see!  Beyond that, the base install
>has always worked just fine for me.

I love flying the F-86 turbine model and the L-39 that came with G3 is
a kick in the a.s when I'm doing the fixed wing stuff, but I'm pretty
much flying the helos these days.  I'm slowly getting the nose-in
thing down and I think I've mastered autos as I've done about 500 of
'em in the week or so I've had G3.

Yeah, it's prettier and after a few more hours with it, it seems to
fly a little more precise than G2, but again, I could have stuck with
G2 and gotten just as much out of it.
 
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