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Model Forum / Radio Controlled / Helicopters / October 2006Any rugged helicopters out there
I am brand new to this hobby. I currently have a venom ocean rescue. I have crashed it a few times and have spent about $70.00 on blades,skids and other parts due to crashes. Does anybody make a rugged helicopter for a beginner. Also I don't understand how they can call it an indoor helicopter as Ihave better luck outdoors than indoors. You would need a basketball gym to fly it indoors either that or I need a bigger apartment. > I am brand new to this hobby. I currently have a venom ocean rescue. I have > crashed it a few times and have spent about $70.00 on blades,skids and other > parts due to crashes. Does anybody make a rugged helicopter for a beginner. > Also I don't understand how they can call it an indoor helicopter as Ihave > better luck outdoors than indoors. You would need a basketball gym to fly it > indoors either that or I need a bigger apartment. indoors just means little or no wind or you need to be a better pilot or get one of these Hirobo X.R.B Robo Electric Lama http://www.servoshop.co.uk/index.php?pid=VENOMLAMA&area=Heli so easy to fly indoors even I can fly nose in with one of these >> I am brand new to this hobby. I currently have a venom ocean rescue. I >> have crashed it a few times and have spent about $70.00 on blades,skids [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > http://www.servoshop.co.uk/index.php?pid=VENOMLAMA&area=Heli > so easy to fly indoors even I can fly nose in with one of these That's not a helicopter. That's a girls toy.  SignatureBeav VN 750 Zed 1000 OMF# 19 >>> I am brand new to this hobby. I currently have a venom ocean rescue. I >>> have crashed it a few times and have spent about $70.00 on blades,skids [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > That's not a helicopter. That's a girls toy. ah but most of us are mear mortals and not up to your standard yet and in my case I might never nose in but on this girls toy I can is so easy and to fly round the lounge its simple ok its not a true heli but its fun >>>> I am brand new to this hobby. I currently have a venom ocean rescue. I >>>> have crashed it a few times and have spent about $70.00 on blades,skids [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > my case I might never nose in but on this girls toy I can is so easy and > to fly round the lounge its simple ok its not a true heli but its fun I wouldn't say it's not a true heli! There have been full size birds designed and flown that use the exact configuration with the exception that they've got full collective capability. ;-) As I said in my response to Beav, there have been worse ideas put on the market! Fly Safe, Steve R. >>>> I am brand new to this hobby. I currently have a venom ocean rescue. I >>>> have crashed it a few times and have spent about $70.00 on blades,skids [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] >> > ah but most of us are mear mortals and not up to your standard yet Haha:-) Yeah, but a few weeks more and you'll be flying better than I could dream of:) and > in my case I might never nose in but on this girls toy I can is so easy > and to fly round the lounge its simple ok its not a true heli but its fun Fun they are, but they don't teach well. Too stable (by far) and no tail rotor work is ever called for. A sim would be a far better bet for learning the more advanced stuff. SignatureBeav VN 750 Zed 1000 OMF# 19 Beav Wrote: > >>>> I am brand new to this hobby. I currently have a venom ocea > rescue. I [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] > the more advanced stuff. > ... Here is my experience. You get to pick where you want to be on thi scale. Co-axial helicopters: 1. E-sky lama2 (now a days, lama3). Looks like the Ocean Rescue. My first helicopter. I had problems avoiding crashes in a livin room until I lashed on 4-6 long skinny wooden dowels (about 1-1.5 ounce total) to the landing gear to stablize it. 2. Hirobo XRB lama (tethered version). Moves more slowly than th lama2. Slow enough that from 1-2 feet high, I can abruptly land it befor it crashes into a wall. Non-co-axial helicopters: 3. On a simulator only. Any one moves much faster than either of th co-axial helicopters. Also, these tilt more than co-axial helicopters. Even in simulated unlimited open space, these would swing wildly o me and crash until I following a booklet on the web called somethin like "Radd's method". Now I can sort of hover the tamer ones, but i still takes a simulated 30 foot by 30 foot area -- flying-llam >>> I am brand new to this hobby. I currently have a venom ocean rescue. I >>> have crashed it a few times and have spent about $70.00 on blades,skids [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > That's not a helicopter. That's a girls toy. Well, at least it'll hover! ;-) Remember the old Heli-Fly or Roto-Fly or whatever it was called? It was a electric single rotor model that had a plate sized vertical fin on the tail with a picture of a tail rotor painted on it. The main rotor was rigged such that it would stay in forward flight and that barn door of a vertical fin would keep the torque in check. Compared to that POS, the model shown in the link above isn't too bad! ;-) Fly Safe, Steve R. Girl's toy or not we all have to start somewhere. My dealer says to wait till the spring as someone is coming out with an aluminum helicopter. Has to be better than this Chinese crap. Anyways this is just a toy. Something to occupy spare time. I'm not going to get all worked up about a toy. I figure I'll give it a few more tries then in the trash it goes. Almost all the ones I've looked at are nothing but cheap toys regardless of the price. > Girl's toy or not we all have to start somewhere. Agreed, but please, not there. Start with a sim of a GOOD flying heli. My dealer says to wait > till the spring as someone is coming out with an aluminum helicopter. That's a new thing then. I mean, I've only got half a dozen aluminium heli's here. Has > to be better than this Chinese crap. Anyways this is just a toy. > Something to occupy spare time. I'm not going to get all worked up about > a toy. I figure I'll give it a few more tries then in the trash it goes. > Almost all the ones I've looked at are nothing but cheap toys regardless > of the price. My point exactly. They're toys and as such, not the ideal "training tool", whereas a good sim, costing maybe a few dollars more, would be a MASSIVE aid to learning how to fly a "proper" heli. SignatureBeav VN 750 Zed 1000 OMF# 19 >>>> I am brand new to this hobby. I currently have a venom ocean rescue. I >>>> have crashed it a few times and have spent about $70.00 on blades,skids [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Well, at least it'll hover! ;-) A plane can hover with enough power -)) > Remember the old Heli-Fly or Roto-Fly or whatever it was called? Indeed I do remember it. Unfortuntely. It was a > electric single rotor model that had a plate sized vertical fin on the > tail with a picture of a tail rotor painted on it. The main rotor was > rigged such that it would stay in forward flight and that barn door of a > vertical fin would keep the torque in check. Compared to that POS, the > model shown in the link above isn't too bad! ;-) It's true, but a pal has one of the Hirobo "things" and all it does is hover. It's a REAL "hands free" machine. Open the throttle and watch. Try to make it go forwards though and it's a whole other thing. I played with one for about .... 5 minutes before I fell asleep at the wheel. SignatureBeav VN 750 Zed 1000 OMF# 19 There is no such thing as a rugged heicopter. They are all fragile beasts and the only thing that distinguishes one from another is the cost of the repair. Ed >I am brand new to this hobby. I currently have a venom ocean rescue. I have >crashed it a few times and have spent about $70.00 on blades,skids and >other parts due to crashes. Does anybody make a rugged helicopter for a >beginner. Also I don't understand how they can call it an indoor helicopter >as Ihave better luck outdoors than indoors. You would need a basketball gym >to fly it indoors either that or I need a bigger apartment. >There is no such thing as a rugged heicopter. They are all fragile beasts >and the only thing that distinguishes one from another is the cost of the >repair. I disagree. I picked up a PicooZ on Wednesday and have run it into all kids of stuff and it's still going strong. It's the most fun I've purchased with $30 in a long time. :) LOL, Oh yeah that little PiccooZ, that is a pretty hard little heli to fly but it is a lot of fun LOL... You are right, there are a few rugged helicopters out thre to fly; but it is crazy when you end up with so many to fly LOL... I own about six helicopters now and I really don't have that much time to fly them. Stay safe and good luck flying... Jeff M. > >There is no such thing as a rugged heicopter. They are all fragile beasts > >and the only thing that distinguishes one from another is the cost of the [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > all kids of stuff and it's still going strong. It's the most fun I've > purchased with $30 in a long time. :) >LOL, > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >have that much time to fly them. >Stay safe and good luck flying... Jeff M. Stick a #6x3/8 screw in the nose and it'll fly like gangbusters. We bomb 'em all over the office here and occasionally head out into the shop area and fly 3 at a time.. I have 5 RC birds of my own, from a well modded Blade CP to a new Trex 600.. Finding time to fly is tough, but I try and squeeze in some stick time 3 times a week. Jeff,thanks for the link. The Lama2 looks identical to the Venom Ocean Rescue though. Just two days ago I slammed it against a tree and smashed the brand new tail section I had just put on. Going to try and super glue it. If that doesn't work I'll replace it again. I guess I need to find an open field without any trees around as that seems to be my problem. I do pretty good in parking lots and haven't hit any cars yet. > LOL, > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] >> all kids of stuff and it's still going strong. It's the most fun I've >> purchased with $30 in a long time. :) > Does anybody make a rugged helicopter for a beginner. Get a LMH Corona, very durable, handles wind pretty well. It's not real cheap but it will last forever. Kirk. Hi Hp, Yes there are rugged helicopters out there. I have only one question. Are you a beginner at know how to hover already or still learning. I have a few helicopters but not enough time to fly them all. I really love flying but as everyone knows we have work hard to have nice toys... Now, as much fun the helis are they are not toys... I am sorry to hear the your Venom took a hit and cost you $70.00 to repair. I am going to recommend a great helicopter for you; you will not need a bigger apartment or a basketball gym. I fly this helicopter between breaks, from doing some computer work. I fly it right from my desk area and I don't use that much space. If you really want to learn to hover, forward flight and hover nose-in; the Lama2 is for you. I have put in a hyperlink for you, http://www.hobby-estore.com/esky-lama-2-rc-helicopter.html just cut and paste! In my opinon this heli is much better then the helicopter simulator I use. Stay safe and good luck with your flying. Jeff M. > I am brand new to this hobby. I currently have a venom ocean rescue. I have > crashed it a few times and have spent about $70.00 on blades,skids and other > parts due to crashes. Does anybody make a rugged helicopter for a beginner. > Also I don't understand how they can call it an indoor helicopter as Ihave > better luck outdoors than indoors. You would need a basketball gym to fly it > indoors either that or I need a bigger apartment. |
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