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Short flight duration on Twister Medevac

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G4WFT - 06 Dec 2006 23:12 GMT
Hi all,

I'm new to the group and to R/C electric helis also, though I did have
a short dabble a couple of years ago.

I just bought a Twister Medevac heli and am getting on OK with it
except that the flight duration between charges I'm getting are very
poor.  Typically I get just two or three minutes when the manual that
comes with the heli states "10 - 15 minutes".

Now I know the manual is likely to be optimistic (!) but this seems too
wide a gap to be normal.

Anyone any experience with this heli or can offer any advice?

The charger appears to operate normally and takes about an hour to
charge fully as the manual states.

Any advice gratefully received!

Regards,

Tim.
ian - 07 Dec 2006 07:59 GMT
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shagged battery.  Those lipos are far too sensitive.
G4WFT - 07 Dec 2006 18:10 GMT
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> shagged battery.  Those lipos are far too sensitive.

Well that's what I thought too Ian.  But I think that's not the case.
Today I bought a new battery pack plus a larger capacity pack (1600 mAh
- double the standard pack supplied).  These both suffer the same
problem.  You get a few minutes of proper flight and then the heli will
barely get off the ground, even with full throttle.

Anyone any other ideas?

Cheers.

Tim.
ian - 08 Dec 2006 17:43 GMT
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any of the rotors even slightly damaged?
Richard - 09 Dec 2006 17:02 GMT
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For some reason people always thinks its the battery pack that's at fault
when the flight times drop.  Unfortunately they never consider it could be
something else like binding on the inner or outer shafts, motor gear mesh is
to tight on the main gear, the motors have lost performance or the 4 in 1
(or 3 in 1) unit has a fault.

Reading another post a few up from this (See Nov 25) a Blade CX owner has
had the same problem and it was 4 in 1 unit at fault.

Cheers
G4WFT - 09 Dec 2006 20:00 GMT
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Thanks Richard (and Ian for the previous post).

Yes, I do appreciate that other factors can affect flight duration.  I
have checked most of the points you mention and all check out OK.
Oddly, the situation seemed to ease somewhat and flight times seemed
better.  Then I had a heavy crash!  The result is that I am waiting for
some spares to arrive before I can continue.

One thought that did occur to me:  Is it possible that the rotor pitch
is a little too shallow?  I guess this would have the effect of making
the motors turn faster for a given lift, thus shortening battery life?
Just a thought.  Anyway, I'm grounded until a new set of top rotors
arrive.....

Cheers.

Tim.
ian - 09 Dec 2006 21:09 GMT
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Twister medivac is fixed pitch.  It does have two sets of rotors?
Surprisingly minor damage to the rotors badly affected the lift and
stability.  make sure the 4-1 unit is securely attached and that the chassis
arm it sits on isn't bent up or down.
G4WFT - 10 Dec 2006 10:46 GMT
> Twister medivac is fixed pitch.  It does have two sets of rotors?
> Surprisingly minor damage to the rotors badly affected the lift and
> stability.  make sure the 4-1 unit is securely attached and that the chassis
> arm it sits on isn't bent up or down.

Hi Ian,

Yes I know there shouldn't be any variation in pitch.  I remember
reading in another forum though a post from someone who'd found it
necessary(?) to twist the rotors slightly to increase the pitch.  This
wasn't the Medevac but a similar heli.  It does indeed have two sets of
rotors.

I'll double-check the 4-in-1 unit as you suggest.

Many thanks.

Tim.
looneylenny - 19 Jan 2008 18:45 GMT
G4wFT,

Hello, Did you ever get to the bottom of the problem?

I've had a Medevac for around a year with no problems but yesterda
mine has started doing the same thing. Its def not a prob with the bat
as I've got a brand new one and the power is cutting out after aroun
3.5mins on both my old and new packs.

Both batts are only using about 300mah of the 850 after 3 mins. M
money is on the 4in1 has a problem and its thinking that the batts ar
getting around 3Volts and then cutting the power.

Or im thinking maybe one of the motors is on its way out and causin
some kind of problem

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looneylenn
 
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