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Model Forum / Radio Controlled / Helicopters / December 2006I accomplished inverted flight!
Yes in less than one week I did an inverted flight! It was easy, just got my bird up 3 feet, did a blade strike off the work bench, it inverted all by itself and crashed to the floor. : ( Lucky... I went over the heli with a microscope (after picking up all the wood from the blades) and there is zero other damage. Jumped on my Gixer and headed for blades. I bought carbon fiber blades $29 and a pair of wooden $13 that said E-fight Blade CP. The owner told me I couldn't use the wood because they have flat bottoms. He has a strong accent, lots of guys in the store so I didn't understand. He then asked me if I was an expert? I said hell no, I just bought it from HIM on Tuesday. He said the carbon fiber is just good for experts and he didn't have the stock woodys. I bought the carbon fiber and installed them, they have the exact shape as the originals, and spin up excellent with no vibes. I don't get it??? ...jerry : Yes in less than one week I did an inverted flight! : It was easy, just got my bird up 3 feet, did a blade strike off the work [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] : I don't get it??? : ...jerry i don't know what copter you have but if you have a 6 channel capable of inverted flight and you are a beginner i would go with wood. Carbon ones will encourage other parts in the drive chain to break instead. These are harder to get at than simply swapping blades. Also you can't simply replace and fly. The more sophisticated choppers have to be carefully balanced up. It is said 6 channel are actually easier to fly than 4 channel. If you change altitude with 4 channel you have to up the throttle and rpm and not simply the pitch. On the other hand 4 channels are far easier to repair and require far less balancing up of every part. So stick to cheap non reinforced blades. i managed 6 sh.ts today From: fred@home.com (fred) i managed 6 sh.ts today Hey Fred, good for you! ......You must be able to fly now! Ian, I have a Blade CP Pro and went yesterday to get stock blades. He didn't have any, but he had Blade CP wood, flat bottom for $13 which I picked up along with the carbons. He said the flat bottoms were no good for my heli and told me to put them back. He then said carbon was no good for me either! Hey I had to have something! LOL Today was no wind, and I went through 3 battery packs, with the carbon fibers, great blades! ..and he didn't want to sell me any blades? I wish I would have picked up the flat bottoms too. It's hard to fly with just a stabilizer bar. Today I had my best day, it's all coming together. jerry >Yes in less than one week I did an inverted flight! >It was easy, just got my bird up 3 feet, did a blade strike off the work [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] >I don't get it??? > ...jerry The guy's full of it. You can definitely fly the flat bottomed blades on that heli. You can't fly inverted very well (if at all) with 'em, but it'll fly. Carbons aren't just for experts. I'm no expert and I fly carbons on all my big helis.. I still fly the $8 woodies on my CP. Today I could really feel things coming together. I got out of the habit of watching the tail, and controlled the rudder watching the nose. A light wind, so I would head into the wind, left hand holding the tail, right hand barely moving forward, then smooth landing. I did this for 3 packs. This one time, instead of softly landing on the cement, I carried it much further then set it down like a baby on my neighbors front lawn, very soft landing and I hear is little "click." I thought the tail rotor must have touched the short grass. It was a boom strike from the mains!!! <???> It slightly chewed up the boom enough for me to get a fiber sliver from it. I wrapped it with tape. This is with gear on! Is this normal for a soft, almost zero forward speed lawn landing? I should have done what Danny said and put the tape on first. I also trimmed the collective throttle about 65% this gave me better lift and advanced rudder. Can't explain the boom strike though? jerry >Today I could really feel things coming together. >I got out of the habit of watching the tail, and controlled the rudder [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >I thought the tail rotor must have touched the short grass. >It was a boom strike from the mains!!! <???> Wow, never heard of that one before.. I've only had one boom strike on my CP and that was due to my wife. I was flying in my living room and she walked up to me and gave me a hug. Not a good way to maintain concentration on the heli. The heli did a nice chicken-dance on the carpet and pretzeled the boom (I run an aluminum frame/boom) nicely. >It slightly chewed up the boom enough for me to get a fiber sliver from >it. I wrapped it with tape. This is with gear on! >Is this normal for a soft, almost zero forward speed lawn landing? Nope.. it's possible you came down a little off-kilter and kicked the boom up in the process.. I've seen larger helis do that. >I should have done what Danny said and put the tape on first. >I also trimmed the collective throttle about 65% this gave me better >lift and advanced rudder. >Can't explain the boom strike though? Dunno, but it sounds like you're coming along pretty well. Glad to here this Kevin, 'cause I'm planning on flying over grass. Thank you so much! jerry <Kevin said> The guy's full of it. You can definitely fly the flat bottomed blades on that heli. You can't fly inverted very well (if at all) with 'em, but it'll fly. Carbons aren't just for experts. I'm no expert and I fly carbons on all my big helis.. I still fly the $8 woodies on my CP. <Jerry> Yah Kevin, the woodys had "Blade CP" printed on the E-fight package!! ..and he said they were no good for my bird. He didn't know I broke the originals, for all he knows they were just spares. He started saying in his very strong German or Dutch accent, "hugh vill never fly CP Pro, dis for expert, I tot hugh ver expert!" He showed me a toy 5 " long and said, "hugh start vith dis, 'dan hugh go mit dis!" ...and he pointed to a Blade CX. I know the CX is easier to fly, so is a kite, but with the coaxial double stacked little blades and no rear rotor it doesn't even look like a heli. I don't want that, ....the CP is cool ....a real helicopter! I bought the CP Pro from him on Wednesday, and Sunday I'm flying it with no damage except for blades. I'm 60 years old and done more things than he's dreamt about including racing Daytona on a factory ride. I didn't need a lecture from him in front of other guys. The funniest part was the guy next to me buying blades, skids, canopy, mainshaft, and other parts for the CX he bought last week. LOL he said he's been in there every day. I'll say one thing though he does stock a lot of parts for the Blade CP, CX and a lot of other helis. Merry Christmas jerry >Yah Kevin, the woodys had "Blade CP" printed on the E-fight package!! >..and he said they were no good for my bird. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >He showed me a toy 5 " long and said, "hugh start vith dis, 'dan hugh go >mit dis!" ...and he pointed to a Blade CX. I'll admit these little micros aren't the best way for a beginner to learn to fly RC helis, but it's doable. The CP was my 1st step back into helis after a 15 year absence from anything RC. >I know the CX is easier to fly, so is a kite, but with the coaxial >double stacked little blades and no rear rotor it doesn't even look like >a heli. I don't want that, ....the CP is cool ....a real helicopter! IMO the CX is good for learning basic orientation but for the $$ you'd spend on it, a sim would provide even more skills. >I bought the CP Pro from him on Wednesday, and Sunday I'm flying it with >no damage except for blades. >I'm 60 years old and done more things than he's dreamt about including >racing Daytona on a factory ride. I didn't need a lecture from him in >front of other guys. Yep. It's unfortunate some people in the hobby are like that. The local shop I frequent (Going there tomorrow to help them repair all the broken Christmas toys) has a couple old fart "regulars" who give the owner's wife sh.t the entire time they're in there. You can tell it bothers her, but she never says anything until they're gone. I got a bit of an earful from them about a month ago in regards to my Trex 600 - and neither of these pinheads owns one or even FLY helis. I'm not as polite as others so I told 'em what they could do with their "expertise" and their condescending attitudes. They don't even look at me now when I walk in. :) >The funniest part was the guy next to me buying blades, skids, canopy, >mainshaft, and other parts for the CX he bought last week. LOL he >said he's been in there every day. > >I'll say one thing though he does stock a lot of parts for the Blade CP, >CX and a lot of other helis. At least you know you can gets parts when you want 'em. My local shops is great for crash parts and can get pretty much anything in a couple days. |
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