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Model Forum / Radio Controlled / Helicopters / December 2009reflex xtr dongle
Hello All. I'm new to this type of thing I recently borrowed a friends reflex xtr simulator, he lent me his before I committed to buying my own, which I've now done but and there's always a but.. Whilst having my friends my son jammed the dongle into the use port, causing smoke to come out of the USB port, my wife grabbed the lead and yanked it out of the computer still smoking and threw it at the sink and unfortunably when it landed it went down the waste disposal, auto starting it and the machine whirled gobbling up the dongle and part of the cable.All we have left in the basket is a few mangled bits of metal not washed away and part of the lead my wife managed to wrestle back from the sink. We can replace the cable but having spoken to a couple of model shops including the UK importer its not possible to buy a replacement dongle. And we cant take advantage of the fantastic customer service replacement scheme of the manufacture as there's little left to see what it actually is/was. do any of the third party interfaces/dongles work with reflex?, does anyone have one they would be willing to sell ? I really don't want to buy another simulator at full rate if this can be avoided. thanks. Mick. if you have emailed reflex and explained but they wont exchange the dongle the only thing you can do is purchase another reflex sim as you cant buy the dongle on its own and nothing else will allow you to use the sim sorry. darrell > Hello All. > [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > > Mick. > Hello All. > [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > anyone have one they would be willing to sell ? I really don't want to buy > another simulator at full rate if this can be avoided. Call me a cynic (or any other chosen expletive), but this sounds like a bad script for a bad sketch show writen by a bad writer with a bad imagination. It wouldn't be broadcast. If the dongle caused the 'puter to smoke and the waste disposal ate it, you'll probably have to buy a legitimate dongle to accompany your legitimate disc. A more popular reason is "the dog ate my dongle" and slightly more believable too. btw, Reflex would know if the bits remaining are their bits. It's what they do, build them.  SignatureBeav VN 750 Zed 1000 OMF# 19 > >... And we cant take advantage of the fantastic customer service replacement > > scheme of the manufacture as there's little left to see what it actually > > is/was. ... Assuming this to be true - have you tried at the manufacturer? If there is anything of the original pcb or the original ATMEL processor left, it is not too hard to identify. I'd send them the pieces left and see. Otherwise the only thing left is buying another simulator - which is by no means prohibitive - the computer is probably more expensive if it actually caused the dongle to go up in smoke. HTH Marc SignatureSwitzerland/Europe <http://www.heusser.com> remove CHEERS and from MERCIAL to get valid e-mail it was the forcing of the dongle in the wrong way round that has caused the damage, electronics rarely like voltages up them the wrong way round. I'm in the process of posting back whats left, but its only small bits of blue plastic and munched metal loosly looking like a usb plug. >> >... And we cant take advantage of the fantastic customer service >> >replacement [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Marc >> Hello All. >> [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] >script for a bad sketch show writen by a bad writer with a bad imagination. >It wouldn't be broadcast. I was thinking the same thing. An auto start disposal? Does it run when water runs down it or does it "magically" sense solid items? >If the dongle caused the 'puter to smoke and the waste disposal ate it, >you'll probably have to buy a legitimate dongle to accompany your legitimate >disc. >A more popular reason is "the dog ate my dongle" and slightly more >believable too. > >btw, Reflex would know if the bits remaining are their bits. It's what they >do, build them. I don't see enough power coming out of a USB interface on a computer to "smoke" anything. Not to mention if you can show Reflex you have an original CD and the original box with a serial number registered to you, you may get another dongle. > I don't see enough power coming out of a USB interface on a computer > to "smoke" anything. 400ma at 5volts is enough to KILL A HUMAN if applied in the right place, and shoving it into a USB device at the wrong polarity is more than likely to cause damage. > Not to mention if you can show Reflex you have an original CD and the > original box with a serial number registered to you, you may get > another dongle. have taken the original box/cd/receipt to the place of purchase together with whats left and that wasnt good enough for them, I'm in the process of posting back the bits to the UK importer they seem to be a little more sympathetic. > have taken the original box/cd/receipt to the place of purchase together > with whats left and that wasnt good enough for them, I'm in the process of > posting back the bits to the UK importer they seem to be a little more > sympathetic. If that does not work, contact Reflex in Germany directly, I have found them very friendly and helpful for all reasonable requests. (www.reflex-sim.de) I would expect parts associated with proof of purchase to be enough. Marc From their website: ... My courtesy: I replace EVERY defective interface free of charge. The chances of a factory broken interface are very low but the CAN HAPPEN. If this happens, it is my duty to replace it free of charge. Please send in your defective interface - it will be replaced*. I don't care about the reasons. If you are resoldering the plug to make it suitable for your radio and it doesn't work afterwards - no problem, as above. If you are crossing the interface with your chair - as above. If your dog/crocodile had eaten it - as above but please clean it before shipping. ... * I am talking about MY return policy. Things might be different from vendor to vendor, country to country. Please ask your local agent for details or possible shipping costs at your vendor. SignatureSwitzerland/Europe <http://www.heusser.com> remove CHEERS and from MERCIAL to get valid e-mail >> I don't see enough power coming out of a USB interface on a computer >> to "smoke" anything. > > 400ma at 5volts is enough to KILL A HUMAN if applied in the right place, and > shoving it into a USB device at the wrong polarity is more than likely to > cause damage. if only you're body has a resistance of 12.5ohms but 400ma is way over the current to kill you, 60ma is enough but at 5 volts you need a resistance of less than 125 ohms which is way lower than your bodies resistance of 1000's of ohms but how someone that can plug a USB device upside down is beyond me >> Not to mention if you can show Reflex you have an original CD and the >> original box with a serial number registered to you, you may get [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > posting back the bits to the UK importer they seem to be a little more > sympathetic. ask a four year old, they have strength beyond their years and dont know when to stop forcing a square peg into a round hold. > but how someone that can plug a USB device upside down is beyond me >>> Not to mention if you can show Reflex you have an original CD and the >>> original box with a serial number registered to you, you may get >>> another dongle. > ask a four year old, they have strength beyond their years and dont know > when to stop forcing a square peg into a round hold. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >>>> original box with a serial number registered to you, you may get >>>> another dongle. have you tried it? I have and I cannot force it the wrong way and even if you did its next to impossible for the connectors to touch the worst you could do is short out the pc, and before you answer have a good look at the plug and socket and you will see what I mean I wasnt home when it happend, all I can say is that the USB socket on the laptop is a right off, infact none of the USB ports now work on the laptop, >> ask a four year old, they have strength beyond their years and dont know >> when to stop forcing a square peg into a round hold. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > could do is short out the pc, and before you answer have a good look at > the plug and socket and you will see what I mean >I wasnt home when it happend, all I can say is that the USB socket on the >laptop is a right off, infact none of the USB ports now work on the laptop, The other end of the lead will give Reflex a clue. Quote them your serial number and send them the remains. SignatureBeav VN 750 Zed 1000 OMF# 19 | > I don't see enough power coming out of a USB interface on a computer | > to "smoke" anything. | | 400ma at 5volts is enough to KILL A HUMAN if applied in the right | place Yes, but the `right place' is not reachable without actually breaking your skin (i.e. applying the 5 volts directly to your heart would probably do it, but little else would.) Technically, it's the amperage (through your heart) that kills, not the voltage -- but you can't have amperage without voltage to push it through your body, and 5 volts isn't nearly enough. I believe that about 32 volts is the lowest voltage that has ever killed anybody, and that's a lot lower than it normally takes. And that's irrelevant -- `enough to kill somebody' or not has little to do with the ability to `smoke' something. And yes, 2 watts (5V * 0.4A) IS enough to let the magic smoke out of a chip given a few seconds of it. And really, assuming that the story is true, I'd say the original poster has a bigger problem than a fried dongle. A garbage disposal that auto-starts? I'd suggest replacing that immediately before it removes some fingers. (And please, give us the manufacturer/model number of this garbage disposal that auto-starts.) SignatureDoug McLaren, dougmc@frenzied.us Consciousness: That annoying time between naps. >>> Hello All. >>> [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > I was thinking the same thing. An auto start disposal? Does it run > when water runs down it or does it "magically" sense solid items? Like.... fingers, for example? >>If the dongle caused the 'puter to smoke and the waste disposal ate it, >>you'll probably have to buy a legitimate dongle to accompany your [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > original box with a serial number registered to you, you may get > another dongle. *ding* And not only that, without the dongle, it's possible to register the purchase on-line, which also allows you to use the on-line features. If it's not registered and the CD case has had its numbers accidentally rubbed off, and the dongle has been eaten by a self nourishing waste disposal unit, then it's looking like a whole new program will need to be paid for. Somehow, this whole thing just doesn't have the right ring to it. SignatureBeav VN 750 Zed 1000 OMF# 19 Seems there are a lot of dishonest people out there (in here), they all seem to know the excuses tried and failed to get dongles, Dont judge others by your own standards, just becuase you're dishonest doesnt mean everyone else is. > *ding* And not only that, without the dongle, it's possible to register > the purchase on-line, which also allows you to use the on-line features. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Somehow, this whole thing just doesn't have the right ring to it. > Seems there are a lot of dishonest people out there (in here), they all > seem to know the excuses tried and failed to get dongles, Yeah, we've heard them all before and you prtesteth FAR too much/ > Dont judge others by your own standards, just becuase you're dishonest > doesnt mean everyone else is. Would you like a digital picture of my Reflex box, disc and dongle? I could even tel you the serial number, but somehow I suspect I wouldn't be able to go online with mine if I did. Come on, fess up, you've got yourself a ripped copy and it won't work and you need help. SignatureBeav VN 750 Zed 1000 OMF# 19 > Would you like a digital picture of my Reflex box, disc and dongle? I > could even tel you the serial number, but somehow I suspect I wouldn't be > able to go online with mine if I did. Oh there you go, offer to put up your serial number and when you bluff is called come up with a lame excuss, pictures would say nothing I bet you've trolled the internet to find piccys, two minute search on ebay would find piccys. > Come on, fess up, you've got yourself a ripped copy and it won't work and > you need help. There you go again, I suspect it is you who has a ripped copy, come on then post the serial number you're so proud of.... >> Would you like a digital picture of my Reflex box, disc and dongle? I >> could even tel you the serial number, but somehow I suspect I wouldn't be [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > There you go again, I suspect it is you who has a ripped copy, come on > then post the serial number you're so proud of.... Read the rest of my post. SignatureBeav VN 750 Zed 1000 OMF# 19 people this is just one of the guys that has just downloaded the gam and noticed that you cant play it with an regular transmitter. but that's not the point, his question is just where you can get an ne dongle. but dude, you said you borrowed it becouse you wanted to know if it' worth the money, believe me it is. so if you just buy one with th origanal reflex transmitter you shouldn't have any problems. I don't know how old your son is (I think that's a lie to) but first o all: he's dump if he tries to put an square into an round hole. an second of all: he's really strong if he can put it trought metal -- neluz Aliens abducted me and stole my dongle, can anyone send me one? Thanks Signaturescallywag Well, I'm glad people like you arnt in positions of power, we're not all as dishonest as you apear to be making out. Its a true story, all based on fact, just becuase you might try and con the manufactures dont judge others by your standards, be helpfull or be quiet.! >> Hello All. >> [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > btw, Reflex would know if the bits remaining are their bits. It's what > they do, build them. > Well, I'm glad people like you arnt in positions of power, we're not all > as dishonest as you apear to be making out. You need to spend more time on Usenet. All life is here and it's not pretty. If you REALLY bought the program, then I'm sure Reflex will be happy to sort out the problem, so it's not going to hurt you to get in touch with them and explain the situation. > Its a true story, all based on fact, just becuase you might try and con > the manufactures I can post the serial number of my copy right here, right now. Can you do the same? dont judge others by your standards, be helpfull or be quiet.! Or you'll come and smack my legs? SignatureBeav VN 750 Zed 1000 OMF# 19 >I can post the serial number of my copy right here, right now. Can you do >the same? Nope.. Prolly 'cuz I don't own Reflex, but I can post my S/N to RealFlight. :) >> dont judge others by your standards, be helpfull or be quiet.! > >Or you'll come and smack my legs? By "your standards" do you mean honesty and integrity? Personally, I think Beav could use a good leg smacking so I think I'd like to see that. >>I can post the serial number of my copy right here, right now. Can you do >>the same? > > Nope.. Prolly 'cuz I don't own Reflex, but I can post my S/N to > RealFlight. :) Nor would it be responsible to do so, I'm sure the manufactures would have something to say about that, so go post away if your brave enough to publish your serial number and I'll forward it onto them. >>> dont judge others by your standards, be helpfull or be quiet.! >> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Personally, I think Beav could use a good leg smacking so I think I'd > like to see that. Here! Here!, Beav sounds like one of those small minded people who thinks like him/her that everyone is always trying to get something for nothing, but we're not all like that. >>>I can post the serial number of my copy right here, right now. Can you do >>>the same? [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > something to say about that, so go post away if your brave enough to > publish your serial number and I'll forward it onto them. You'd keep it all for yourself. >>>> dont judge others by your standards, be helpfull or be quiet.! >>> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > like him/her that everyone is always trying to get something for nothing, > but we're not all like that. Correct, I have a legitimate copy, supplied by none other than Reflex themselves. SignatureBeav VN 750 Zed 1000 OMF# 19 >>> Nope.. Prolly 'cuz I don't own Reflex, but I can post my S/N to >>> RealFlight. :) [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > You'd keep it all for yourself. Bluff called again, come on then, I promice to forward it to reflex, as you know having someone elses serial number doesnt help you much. >>>>> dont judge others by your standards, be helpfull or be quiet.! >>>> [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > Correct, I have a legitimate copy, supplied by none other than Reflex > themselves. Well originally and technically they are all supplied by reflex, so that proves nothing, more likely you downloaded it from one of those P2P networks you suggested !! Please Mr., my dog ate my dongle. Can I have a new one please ? Of course you can, they are £129 new. blah blah blah > Please Mr., my dog ate my dongle. Can I have a new one please ? > Of course you can, they are £129 new. But Sam's is a legitimate copy. He said so. SignatureBeav VN 750 Zed 1000 OMF# 19 >>>> Nope.. Prolly 'cuz I don't own Reflex, but I can post my S/N to >>>> RealFlight. :) [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Bluff called again, come on then, I promice to forward it to reflex, as > you know having someone elses serial number doesnt help you much. You can't even spell the word and with all your protestations of innocence, you've served nly to dig your hole deeper. We ALL know your copy is....... >>>>>> dont judge others by your standards, be helpfull or be quiet.! >>>>> [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > proves nothing, more likely you downloaded it from one of those P2P > networks you suggested !! Can you download solid objects in boxes? I ask, because I'm sure if anyone knows, it's you. SignatureBeav VN 750 Zed 1000 OMF# 19 >> Nope.. Prolly 'cuz I don't own Reflex, but I can post my S/N to >> RealFlight. :) >> >Nor would it be responsible to do so, I'm sure the manufactures would have >something to say about that, so go post away if your brave enough to publish >your serial number and I'll forward it onto them. Why would you forward it to them? They already have it. They got it when I registered the software so I could get my updates. They have my serial numbers for RealFlight 2, all 5 addons and both my G3 expansion packs.. >Here! Here!, Beav sounds like one of those small minded people who thinks >like him/her that everyone is always trying to get something for nothing, >but we're not all like that. No, Beav is one of those few people who doesn't pull any punches and lets ya know just how he feels about a particular subject. So am I. >>I can post the serial number of my copy right here, right now. Can you do >>the same? > > Nope.. Prolly 'cuz I don't own Reflex, but I can post my S/N to > RealFlight. :) I can do that too, coz I've got a bought and paid for RealFlight too. Versions 1, 2 AND G3. And Reflex too, and tday I heard there's a downladable update for it, so I'll be checking that out in about 10 minutes:-) >>> dont judge others by your standards, be helpfull or be quiet.! >> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Personally, I think Beav could use a good leg smacking so I think I'd > like to see that. I'd let you DO it Kev :-)) SignatureBeav VN 750 Zed 1000 OMF# 19 >> Personally, I think Beav could use a good leg smacking so I think I'd >> like to see that. > >I'd let you DO it Kev :-)) Well, next time I get over to your side of the pond, I'll be more than happy to slurp down a couple pints (you can have tea) and take care of that for ya. :) >>> Personally, I think Beav could use a good leg smacking so I think I'd >>> like to see that. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > happy to slurp down a couple pints (you can have tea) and take care of > that for ya. :) And you'd be more than welcome Kev. You won't be the first cousin to visit either and for some strange reason, they ALL come back for more. Must be my charming, trusting and totally non cynical way:-) SignatureBeav VN 750 Zed 1000 OMF# 19 >And you'd be more than welcome Kev. You won't be the first cousin to visit >either and for some strange reason, they ALL come back for more. > >Must be my charming, trusting and totally non cynical way:-) Either that or your wife has a nice round British a.s. :) >>And you'd be more than welcome Kev. You won't be the first cousin to visit >>either and for some strange reason, they ALL come back for more. >> >>Must be my charming, trusting and totally non cynical way:-) > > Either that or your wife has a nice round British a.s. :) If she has, then it's mine, coz she's Swedish. SignatureBeav VN 750 Zed 1000 OMF# 19 >> Either that or your wife has a nice round British a.s. :) > >If she has, then it's mine, coz she's Swedish. Oh, so they come back 'cuz she's a 6' tall...err excuse me.. 1.8288m tall blonde bombshell.. >>> Either that or your wife has a nice round British a.s. :) >> >>If she has, then it's mine, coz she's Swedish. > > Oh, so they come back 'cuz she's a 6' tall...err excuse me.. 1.8288m > tall blonde bombshell.. 5'9", but blonde. As for bombshell, well beauty is in the eye, and all that. SignatureBeav VN 750 Zed 1000 OMF# 19 >>>> Either that or your wife has a nice round British a.s. :) >>> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >5'9", but blonde. As for bombshell, well beauty is in the eye, and all that. Post a pic and let us judge for ourselves. :) >>>>> Either that or your wife has a nice round British a.s. :) >>>> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Post a pic and let us judge for ourselves. :) There's one on what used to be my website. Apparently it's still up. but I've not updated it in a while. SignatureBeav VN 750 Zed 1000 OMF# 19 Lazy bastard how are we to know whats good in the heli world if you cant be arsed updating that mountain of information :-) Rob >>>>>> Either that or your wife has a nice round British a.s. :) >>>>> [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > There's one on what used to be my website. Apparently it's still up. but > I've not updated it in a while. > Lazy bastard how are we to know whats good in the heli world if you cant > be arsed updating that mountain of information :-) Well this bastard spent 30 odd years passing on info on heli's before he realised that there are other things in life. A bitch I know :-) On top of which, the electric heli boom leaves me colder than a cold mans dead cold thing and just about every post these days is about electric, so it's not seemed worth the effort to keep the site updated. I'd actually forgotten it was still "out there" somewhere, to the point I can't even remember the bloody URL anymore:-) SignatureBeav VN 750 Zed 1000 OMF# 19 :-) Fair comment I still intend to come & hassle ya one day & buy ya a pint for the help I have gained, I have got a T Rex still in the box I haven't found the time to build it up yet, I'm still playing with my Raptor & Concept 60 which is a bit long in the tooth. As over the pond Kev said in a post he gets a lot of pleasure out of repairing and messing, my skills or no more than hover but I to get pleasure from messing when I get chance. Your url by the way is http://homepage.ntlworld.com/kevin.maxfield/ Rob >> Lazy bastard how are we to know whats good in the heli world if you cant >> be arsed updating that mountain of information :-) [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > I'd actually forgotten it was still "out there" somewhere, to the point I > can't even remember the bloody URL anymore:-) > :-) Fair comment I still intend to come & hassle ya one day & buy ya a > pint for the help I have gained, Always welcome, you be. I have got a T Rex still in the box I haven't > found the time to build it up yet, I'm still playing with my Raptor & > Concept 60 which is a bit long in the tooth. I've had a couple of those over the years and I believe a pal of mone still has one in an unopened box. Great flying heli's. As over the pond Kev said in a > post he gets a lot of pleasure out of repairing and messing, my skills or > no more than hover but I to get pleasure from messing when I get chance. Messing is one of life's greats, I'll give you that. . Your > url by the way is http://homepage.ntlworld.com/kevin.maxfield/ Oh excellent, I really HAD forgotten thee URL. SignatureBeav VN 750 Zed 1000 OMF# 19 >I've had a couple of those over the years and I believe a pal of mone still >has one in an unopened box. Great flying heli's. The Rappy or the Concept?? My brother-in-law has a Concept 60 collecting dust in his garage.. I should pester him to break it out and get it flying again. >Messing is one of life's greats, I'll give you that. Sometimes. I got pretty frustrated last night trying to work out pitch inequalities on my Raptor head. Still don't have it figured out, but I've had a night to sleep on it and will figure it out tonight... >Oh excellent, I really HAD forgotten thee URL. Too much tea methinks. :) >>I've had a couple of those over the years and I believe a pal of mone >>still [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > collecting dust in his garage.. I should pester him to break it out > and get it flying again. Concept. The original 30's were great for larning the basics (that's the D version), then for regular aero's, the SE and finally for serious 3D, the SR and VR. The 60s didn't have as many variations, but they were (and still are) a superb flying machine. >>Messing is one of life's greats, I'll give you that. > > Sometimes. I got pretty frustrated last night trying to work out > pitch inequalities on my Raptor head. Still don't have it figured > out, but I've had a night to sleep on it and will figure it out > tonight... Scissor arm mixers perchance? >>Oh excellent, I really HAD forgotten thee URL. > > Too much tea methinks. :) And not enough sleep:) SignatureBeav VN 750 Zed 1000 OMF# 19 >Concept. The original 30's were great for larning the basics (that's the D >version), then for regular aero's, the SE and finally for serious 3D, the SR >and VR. The 60s didn't have as many variations, but they were (and still >are) a superb flying machine. Not sure which version bro-in-law's is.. He's got 6 or 7 helis from the early to mid 90's.. Not sure if any of them are worth anything tho... >Scissor arm mixers perchance? Bad geometry in the servo setup. This was a rig I bought off e-bay a little over a year ago. I got so wrapped up in my 'leccy ships I let the Raptor collect dust until now. Got the mechanics sorted out and am trying to figure out why the Rx battery won't take more than 300mah in charge at a time. I can eventually get about 1500mah into it (1700mah NiCd) by repeating the process and it'll discharge almost all of that at a 300ma rate... I'm thinking my charger might be FUBAR. >And not enough sleep:) Caused by the caffeine in the tea, duh... | Got the mechanics sorted out and am trying to figure out why the Rx | battery won't take more than 300mah in charge at a time. I can | eventually get about 1500mah into it (1700mah NiCd) by repeating the | process and it'll discharge almost all of that at a 300ma rate... | I'm thinking my charger might be FUBAR. False peaking -- that's a classic sign of a pack that needs a formative charge. Discharge it (but not enough so that any cell gets reverse-charged -- down to 4 volts total should be fine) then put it on a slow charge for about 40% longer than math tells you should be required for a full charge. (So if it's a 100 mA charger, 24 hours will work nicely.) If discharging is hard, you can skip that step, but the results will be better if you do. Just don't discharge it so much that you reverse one of the cells -- that does damage. Once done, discharge it again, and then it should peak charge properly. A discharge and then a 1C charge later, and it's probably ready to fly. This generally doesn't have to be done often, but often does have to be repeated when a pack is *fully* discharged (like if you leave your TX on overnight.) SignatureDoug McLaren, dougmc@frenzied.us Three statisticians went duck hunting. A duck was approaching and the first statistician shot, and missed the duck by being a foot too high. The secondshot and was a foot too low. The third cried, "We hit it!" >False peaking -- that's a classic sign of a pack that needs a >formative charge. I thought that as well, but nope... read on. >Discharge it (but not enough so that any cell gets reverse-charged -- >down to 4 volts total should be fine) then put it on a slow charge for >about 40% longer than math tells you should be required for a full >charge. (So if it's a 100 mA charger, 24 hours will work nicely.) Been there, done that. Did the old "lightbulb" discharge we used to do when I was racing RC cars - that knocks it down to right about 0.9 - 1.0v/cell and then put it on the wall wart for about 20 hours - twice. Putting a 250ma discharge on it, it only nets about 350-400mah before the voltage drops off below 0.9v/cell. >If discharging is hard, you can skip that step, but the results will >be better if you do. Just don't discharge it so much that you reverse >one of the cells -- that does damage. Yep, I know that.. >Once done, discharge it again, and then it should peak charge >properly. A discharge and then a 1C charge later, and it's probably >ready to fly. >This generally doesn't have to be done often, but often does have to >be repeated when a pack is *fully* discharged (like if you leave your >TX on overnight.) This particular pack was sitting for about a year and like you, I figured it'd need just a bit of TLC to get it back but it appears as if it's done. In any case, I bought a new 2700mah rx pack so I'm good. I gave the old pack to my son who's using it to power one of his airsoft machine guns. :) >> Lazy bastard how are we to know whats good in the heli world if you cant >> be arsed updating that mountain of information :-) [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > I'd actually forgotten it was still "out there" somewhere, to the point I > can't even remember the bloody URL anymore:-) well I just went to a well known model shop and apart from cars, crap electric park flyers, 7 r/c model kits all the helicopters he had were 30 or so different electric helicopters and 1 normal Raptor and even my local market stall has a toy shop and it had several R/C helicopters on it and they looked like 4 channel fixed pitch types rather than the contra rotating types its seems the market is overflowing with them > well I just went to a well known model shop and apart from cars, crap > electric park flyers, 7 r/c model kits all the helicopters he had were 30 [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > than the contra rotating types > its seems the market is overflowing with them Of that, there's absolutely no doubt, and I suppose it's not a BAD thing, it's just not MY thing. SignatureBeav VN 750 Zed 1000 OMF# 19 >There's one on what used to be my website. Apparently it's still up. but >I've not updated it in a while. URL? >There's one on what used to be my website. Apparently it's still up. but >I've not updated it in a while. Found it.. How much didja have to pay the supermodel to pose for your web page? :) >>There's one on what used to be my website. Apparently it's still up. but >>I've not updated it in a while. > > Found it.. How much didja have to pay the supermodel to pose for your > web page? :) I just showed her my manliness and the rest (as they say) is history :) SignatureBeav VN 750 Zed 1000 OMF# 19 >> Found it.. How much didja have to pay the supermodel to pose for your >> web page? :) > >I just showed her my manliness and the rest (as they say) is history :) So it was a pity-posing then? :) >>> Found it.. How much didja have to pay the supermodel to pose for your >>> web page? :) >> >>I just showed her my manliness and the rest (as they say) is history :) > > So it was a pity-posing then? :) Yeah, she says it's a pity I don't show it her more often:-) SignatureBeav VN 750 Zed 1000 OMF# 19 Hey Beav, You still using my wifes pic on your website :) >>> Found it.. How much didja have to pay the supermodel to pose for your >>> web page? :) >> >>I just showed her my manliness and the rest (as they say) is history :) > > So it was a pity-posing then? :) > Hey Beav, > You still using my wifes pic on your website :) I can't tell anymore, it's all covered in summat sticky. SignatureBeav VN 750 Zed 1000 OMF# 19 Sounds like someone who was bullied as a child and hides behind the computer trying to get even with the world abusing others now as a grown up , go get a life!!. theres no place for people like you who thinks the world owes you a favour. > dont judge others by your standards, be helpfull or be quiet.! > > Or you'll come and smack my legs? > Sounds like someone who was bullied as a child and hides behind the > computer trying to get even with the world abusing others now as a grown > up , go get a life!!. I will, if you go and get some English grammar lessons. theres no place for people like you who thinks the world owes you > a favour. Or someone like who thinks ripping off software is acceptable. SignatureBeav VN 750 Zed 1000 OMF# 19 > do any of the third party interfaces/dongles work with reflex?, does anyone > have one they would be willing to sell ? I really don't want to buy another > simulator at full rate if this can be avoided. Search some P2P network for reflex electronic crack which includes a schematic for creating the dongle and machine code for the 16c745 microchip. Since your friend already payed for his Reflex I don't think there are any legal issues involved. thank you, the first constructive suggestion. I/We will have a go at that. (and the others who has sent shed loads of private emails flaming me, dont judge me/us by your own standards) >> do any of the third party interfaces/dongles work with reflex?, does >> anyone [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > microchip. Since your friend already payed for his Reflex I don't think > there are any legal issues involved. > thank you, the first constructive suggestion. I/We will have a go at that. That tells me without a dount that the program is a hoky one. > (and the others who has sent shed loads of private emails flaming me, dont > judge me/us by your own standards) You've done that all by yourself. Why haven't you contacted Reflex direct? SignatureBeav VN 750 Zed 1000 OMF# 19 > > (and the others who has sent shed loads of private emails flaming me, dont > > judge me/us by your own standards) > > You've done that all by yourself. Why haven't you contacted Reflex direct? May I suggest to the original poster to report back here after having contacted Reflex in Germany himself, and having tried to sort out the situation with the manufacturer? And the others to refrain from further comments until then? I think this avoids unneccessary implications. Best regards Marc SignatureSwitzerland/Europe <http://www.heusser.com> remove CHEERS and from MERCIAL to get valid e-mail >>> (and the others who has sent shed loads of private emails flaming me, dont >>> judge me/us by your own standards) [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Marc and spoil all the fun :-) >>>> (and the others who has sent shed loads of private emails flaming me, >>>> dont judge me/us by your own standards) [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >> > and spoil all the fun :-) Yeah, bollocks to that :-) SignatureBeav VN 750 Zed 1000 OMF# 19 >> thank you, the first constructive suggestion. I/We will have a go at >> that. > > That tells me without a dount that the program is a hoky one. Tells you nothing, if you had botherd to read the original posting you'd already have your answer, in fact what it does tell you is that YOU KNOW WHERE to find the details to build dongles and I didnt, mainly because I dont frequent this dark area of the internet that you have displayed YOU DO. So well done Beav, looks like it is you whom has displayed how to get arround the copy protection, it was only a matter of time before you demonstrated how dishonest you where. >> dont judge me/us by your own standards) > > You've done that all by yourself. Why haven't you contacted Reflex direct? Been there, done that, heres a suggestion; think then act, dont act then think!, or read the postings then think, dont write replies and demonstrate your ignorance to the previous postings. Doh !. Seven days now since the original enquiry was placed, have reflex replied yet :-) >>> thank you, the first constructive suggestion. I/We will have a go at >>> that. [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > think!, or read the postings then think, dont write replies and > demonstrate your ignorance to the previous postings. Doh !. > >> thank you, the first constructive suggestion. I/We will have a go at > >> that. [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > - Show quoted text - Whats all this crap about one dongle, hell I have one that ya all can play with LOL!!! >> >> thank you, the first constructive suggestion. I/We will have a go at >> >> that. [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > Whats all this crap about one dongle, hell I have one that ya all can > play with LOL!!! jpg. please. SignatureBeav VN 750 Zed 1000 OMF# 19 >Whats all this crap about one dongle, hell I have one that ya all can >play with LOL!!! Does it come with the micro forceps and scanning electron microscope or do I need to purchase those separately? On Feb 12, 11:10 am, The OTHER Kevin in San Diego <skiddz "AT" adelphia "DOT" net> wrote: > >Whats all this crap about one dongle, hell I have one that ya all can > >play with LOL!!! > > Does it come with the micro forceps and scanning electron microscope > or do I need to purchase those separately? If you can find yours you can most definatly find mine. >On Feb 12, 11:10 am, The OTHER Kevin in San Diego <skiddz "AT" >adelphia "DOT" net> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > >If you can find yours you can most definatly find mine. That's the comeback?? C'mon.. you can do better than that... >>On Feb 12, 11:10 am, The OTHER Kevin in San Diego <skiddz "AT" >>adelphia "DOT" net> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > That's the comeback?? C'mon.. you can do better than that... After nearly a week, 10 to 1 says he can't. SignatureBeav VN 750 Zed 1000 OMF# 19 So thats what I need to find it,I lost mine a few years ago and was wonderin what to use > On Feb 12, 11:10 am, The OTHER Kevin in San Diego <skiddz "AT" > adelphia "DOT" net> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > If you can find yours you can most definatly find mine. |
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