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Model Forum / Radio Controlled / Helicopters / February 2008Any one of any experience with AirHogs Micro Reflex helicopter
Over Christmas I've started looking at micro-helicopters. I've seen the reviews of the mosquito from and picco-z from Radio Shack, but my only concern on both of these is that the forward movement is really only gained via weighting the nose. Yesterday I saw a commercial for the AirHog Reflex Helicopter. It has thrust propellers as well as the dual rotor. You can see the video of it in action here: https://www.spinmaster.com/product.php?productid=16219&s=reflex Please let me know your opinions. Thanks in advance. Dave I have never seen these before...thanks for the link! Looks like a great improvement over the latest batch of mini's. Having directional control with forward flight is what all of them should have had. Now it's become more of a helicopter, and it's easily controlled by anyone (unlike my T-Rex 450se and Blade Cp Pro which have a very large learning curve). I know I'll be buying one! On 1/4/07 10:23 AM, in article 1167924209.917126.291620@6g2000cwy.googlegroups.com, "DaveHeilig@gmail.com" > Over Christmas I've started looking at micro-helicopters. I've seen > the reviews of the mosquito from and picco-z from Radio Shack, but my [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > Thanks in advance. > Dave > Over Christmas I've started looking at micro-helicopters. I've seen > the reviews of the mosquito from and picco-z from Radio Shack, but my [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Please let me know your opinions. It's a toy.  SignatureBeav VN 750 Zed 1000 OMF# 19 >> Over Christmas I've started looking at micro-helicopters. I've seen >> the reviews of the mosquito from and picco-z from Radio Shack, but my [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > >It's a toy. So's my Trex 600.. My Trex 450SE.. My Raptor50.. My Blade CP, My PicooZ, my Suzuki SV650S, my Yamaha Banshee etc... Just differeing levels of "toy". >>> Over Christmas I've started looking at micro-helicopters. I've seen >>> the reviews of the mosquito from and picco-z from Radio Shack, but my [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Just differeing levels of "toy". the only difference between men and boys is the price of their toys, or so my mum used to say >>>> Over Christmas I've started looking at micro-helicopters. I've seen >>>> the reviews of the mosquito from and picco-z from Radio Shack, but my [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > the only difference between men and boys is the price of their toys, or so > my mum used to say Not wrong either. SignatureBeav VN 750 Zed 1000 OMF# 19 >>> Over Christmas I've started looking at micro-helicopters. I've seen >>> the reviews of the mosquito from and picco-z from Radio Shack, but my [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > So's my Trex 600.. My Trex 450SE.. My Raptor50.. My Blade CP, My > PicooZ, my Suzuki SV650S, my Yamaha Banshee etc... Of course. They're ALL toys, but there're toys and ... :-) > Just differeing levels of "toy". I've been playing with levels of toy today. A Walkera and a Hornet FP. Neither are up to much outside when it's windy, but I thought it'd be fun to try anyway. Well they weren't mine:-) I had a ball too, but the dog stole it. The Walkera was actually a decent machine although it had a tail rotor problem for the first flight (soon sorted) but after that first sortie, things got pretty good. The Hornet wasn't so much fun, even though it was a bit bigger, but being fixed pitch is lacked accuracy in the wind. All better than doing nothing though:-) Anyway, you shouldn't take me too seriously when I talk about leccy heli's, coz I'm a twat and they're only half crap:-)) SignatureBeav VN 750 Zed 1000 OMF# 19 >I've been playing with levels of toy today. A Walkera and a Hornet FP. >Neither are up to much outside when it's windy, but I thought it'd be fun to >try anyway. Well they weren't mine:-) I had a ball too, but the dog stole >it. I only played with one toy thus far today.. I know we're all getting kicked outta here at 4 today so I'll have about 90 mins of daylinght left when I get home.. Should be opportunity to get another toy playing in... >The Walkera was actually a decent machine although it had a tail rotor >problem for the first flight (soon sorted) but after that first sortie, >things got pretty good. The Hornet wasn't so much fun, even though it was a >bit bigger, but being fixed pitch is lacked accuracy in the wind. All better >than doing nothing though:-) WTF was the secret? I've been trying to get my bro-in-laws Walkera 36 up in the air.. Spools up fine and pitch curves are good, but it get light on the skids and not much else. Changed the pinion to try and get the motor running faster and get into its "power band" but same deal... >Anyway, you shouldn't take me too seriously when I talk about leccy heli's, >coz I'm a twat and they're only half crap:-)) Hey, I'll have you know I burned about a pint of nitro at lunch. 'course it was in my Revo truck, but it's still nitro. :) >>I've been playing with levels of toy today. A Walkera and a Hornet FP. >>Neither are up to much outside when it's windy, but I thought it'd be fun [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > left when I get home.. Should be opportunity to get another toy > playing in... 90, minutes? Time enough to charge a battery :-) >>The Walkera was actually a decent machine although it had a tail rotor >>problem for the first flight (soon sorted) but after that first sortie, [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > get the motor running faster and get into its "power band" but same > deal... A decent set up:-)))) Actually, apart from both of them having a seriously arse heaviness before I attacked them, the Walkera was the most willing to fly. A bit touchy on the left/right cyclic and a bit lazy on forwards/backwards, but the collective worked a treat. I don't like these "seperate motor tails" though, not at all. I'm a firm believer in "friction finding" and of course, elimination of said, but the Walkera didn't have much friction to worry about. maybe your b-i-l bought a lemon? I had 80% power at half stick though, so it was revving well, but it held the revs when it left the ground (concrete and wet) and had no trouble staying airbourne. A little tweaking with servo throws/ball link point positions and the cyclic was soon harmonised, making it much more controllable. Not bad at all, in fact. >>Anyway, you shouldn't take me too seriously when I talk about leccy >>heli's, >>coz I'm a twat and they're only half crap:-)) > > Hey, I'll have you know I burned about a pint of nitro at lunch. > 'course it was in my Revo truck, but it's still nitro. :) I've got a pal who's into nitro model bikes. Fun for about 20 minutes and then you HAVE to race or there's no point. SignatureBeav VN 750 Zed 1000 OMF# 19 >90, minutes? Time enough to charge a battery :-) More like 20 mins. I charge 'em at 3C 'cuz Thunderpower and Flightpower both say I can. :) >A decent set up:-)))) Actually, apart from both of them having a seriously >arse heaviness before I attacked them, the Walkera was the most willing to [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >finding" and of course, elimination of said, but the Walkera didn't have >much friction to worry about. maybe your b-i-l bought a lemon? Well, I've come to find out the "new" NiMh battery he's got on it really isn't new. It's been sitting for years and was never used.. My guess is it's shot.. I'm gonna bring along a good LiPo next time I head over and see if we can get it going. >I had 80% power at half stick though, so it was revving well, but it held >the revs when it left the ground (concrete and wet) and had no trouble >staying airbourne. A little tweaking with servo throws/ball link point >positions and the cyclic was soon harmonised, making it much more >controllable. Not bad at all, in fact. The setup is pretty good. I spent a lot of time getting the mechanics and radio "sync'd". It should fly, dammit! >I've got a pal who's into nitro model bikes. Fun for about 20 minutes and >then you HAVE to race or there's no point. I can see that. This truck is so fun at lunch. I hit a rock at about 50 mph a little bit ago. Damn near tore the right front suspension off the thing. Amazing it came apart after a month of launching it 10+ feet in the air and surviving dozens of 50mph cartwheels with nothing more than some body scuffs and peeling the inside bead off one wheel. I've got Monday off so I'm gonna load up all 3 of my flyable helis and go burn electrons all day... Hopefully I'll come home with 3 flyable helis. :) >>90, minutes? Time enough to charge a battery :-) > > More like 20 mins. I charge 'em at 3C 'cuz Thunderpower and > Flightpower both say I can. :) And if they say so..:) >>A decent set up:-)))) Actually, apart from both of them having a seriously >>arse heaviness before I attacked them, the Walkera was the most willing to [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > My guess is it's shot.. I'm gonna bring along a good LiPo next time I > head over and see if we can get it going. Well the LiPo will be lighter for a start, so you're on the right road. >>I had 80% power at half stick though, so it was revving well, but it held >>the revs when it left the ground (concrete and wet) and had no trouble [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > The setup is pretty good. I spent a lot of time getting the mechanics > and radio "sync'd". It should fly, dammit! Do the revs drop when it's trying to lift, or does it just rev? >>I've got a pal who's into nitro model bikes. Fun for about 20 minutes and >>then you HAVE to race or there's no point. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > nothing more than some body scuffs and peeling the inside bead off one > wheel. Why don't they make heli's like that? :-) > I've got Monday off so I'm gonna load up all 3 of my flyable helis and > go burn electrons all day... Hopefully I'll come home with 3 flyable > helis. :) Two chances. Slim and f.ck all :-)) SignatureBeav VN 750 Zed 1000 OMF# 19 >> More like 20 mins. I charge 'em at 3C 'cuz Thunderpower and >> Flightpower both say I can. :) > >And if they say so..:) So far, so good. 70+ cycles on 2 of my TP2100 packs like this. Probably 20 or so on the other two (Got those for Christmas) They barely get warm during the charge and I *ALWAYS* have 'em on the balancer when I charge. (Charger is a TP1010C with the new 2.0d firmware and balancer is the TP210) >> Well, I've come to find out the "new" NiMh battery he's got on it >> really isn't new. It's been sitting for years and was never used.. >> My guess is it's shot.. I'm gonna bring along a good LiPo next time I >> head over and see if we can get it going. > >Well the LiPo will be lighter for a start, so you're on the right road. I told him to shitcan the thing and go buy a Trex S kit and I'd have it flying in about 4 hours after we start assembly. >Do the revs drop when it's trying to lift, or does it just rev? Revs drop off once it's up to full pitch (+8) but I haven't tached it to see what RPMS are even at 0 pitch. I'm thinking this old battery can't deliver the current the motor needs to drive this thing. >Why don't they make heli's like that? :-) 'cuz the manufacturer's wouldn't make as much money on spares.. Total cost of ripping the suspension off the truck? $17 and 30 mins of my time.. It's as cheap as spares from Align.. >Two chances. Slim and f.ck all :-)) Unfortunately, that's all too true... It's part of the game, so no big deal... I too saw the commercial and was intrigued. I found this posted o youtube. The author gives a brief video review and comparison to th previous Air Hogs heli that the Reflex replaced. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCrQfPcabP -- aerono :cool: I picked up the AH Reflex yesterday at Wallyworld. For good inf search out threads on the old AH Helix. It's basically the same desig with a few tweaks. I had a Havoc Heli (ok-two!) before, and gave th last one away to a kid who'd never had a decent toy in his life in th Dominican Republic. I kinda missed it, so while I was snoopnig for mini-storm launcher, I grabbed the Reflex for 62 bucks and change After reading up on it on other threads, I was confident it would be fun indoor flyer. It is pretty hard to trim and fly at first. READ TH INSTRUCTIONS! It flies with too much forward momentum, however, unles you have a lot of space and don't care about spot-landing. I don't an I do,respectively. So I stuck a push pin(found one that perfectl matches the yellow) in the end of the tail. It's funny that wha finally made the Havoc fly worth a hoot (pin in the nose), makes th Reflex a great flying heli for what it is, if you put the pin in th other end of the beast. A few quick notes: 1)It is much heavier an powerful than a Picco or Havoc, so it drops like a rock if it hit anything hard enough in flight to fold a blade hinge. 2)I don't thin the foam is going to prove to be as durable as the Picco because o this. 3) Having backing capability makes for nice vertical landings exactly where you want them! 4) slowing down the forward flight allow use in very tight environments. I had full confidence to take off an land in front of my TV, face, etc... Bottom line is that I like it more than the Havoc/Piccoz. Let th hatemail come! Time will tell if it can take abuse like a Picco, but don't hit as many things with it either. I'm hoping it will teach me lot while I save up for a Blade CX2. Enjoy -- minirips I have a reflex. Its much more fun than my havoc heli. I can keep i flying in about a 4' x 4' area easily. Spot landings are something need more practice on though. I taped a CR2016 lithium battery (very light & thin) to the undersid of the foam fuselage at the end where the switch is and it seems lik the perfect counterweight for hovering (as opposed to FF). I need a new reflex now because I stripped the little gear inside tha turns the rotors. Whatever you do, don't hit the throttle while th heli is on its side -- overedlin I have fabricated and tested a new spur gear for the Reflex and i performs great. The new gear is running quieter than the original. I any one is interested in a replacement gear feel free to contact m Lazerman@68gt.sytes.net -- Lazerma I actually bought a flex heli and it was unstable BUT i learnd if yo modify it than it realy flys well..for instance~~I took the directiona blades off and replaced them with 1 inch blades then I cut the body of and made one useing an aluminum can,,lol,,, i used a black ink pin fo the tail strut then atatched a giutar pick so it would be stable wit the down draft from the main blades...this thing rock and rolls...not you may have to use small counter weights as you can see on the nose i the undercarage pic....have fun flyin guys :cool +------------------------------------------------------------------- |Filename: rc chooper.jpg |Download: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=1317254 +------------------------------------------------------------------- -- madtowntwitc Hi, I can tell you about the Reflex: I like it! I've had it for tw weeks or so, and the fact that it still works tells you a lot. Seriously, I've tried two Picco-Z's and one of the dual rotor model with hoops around the rotors -- I can't remember which one -- and al of those failed within a day. Basically it seemed like their littl tail rotor motors couldn't keep the craft stable after it had crashe once or twice. The Reflex, on the other hand, seems to take a crashin and keep on thrashing! This is because its large rotor wings fold o contact -- just fold back into place, and you're ready to fly again. It also has two, not one, directional rotors at the back, and both hav protective cowls to protect them from damage. Other than that, the onl damage I've sustained has been a broken rotor wing or two -- th manufacturer provides a few spares, and I will be calling them today t order more -- and the foam body has gotten a little smacked up. But th Reflex continues to hover and maneuver around my cramped and dust studio apartment, and I'm getting better at controlling it. A sure an steady hand is needed! At any rate, I recommend the Reflex -- the firs indoor heli I can say that about.. -- hiha the reflex is durable and has good control. WARNING: DO NOT POINT IT SLIGHTLY TO ONE DIRECTION DURING TAKEOFF OR I WILL KEEP GOING IN THAT DIRECTION. I ALMOST BROKE MY TV -- boredom.is.m |
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