Model Forum / Radio Controlled / Helicopters / September 2007

my CCPM XL throttle 0 40 68 85 100 for normal
pitch 2 5 7 11 14
and it hovers at 1/2 stick but its probably to much pitch at full throttle

You should get 5-7 mins out of this setup depending on your pinion
size.

OK, this is bit goofy, but not completely out of whack...

DING!  Your throttle curve is WAY out of whack.  You're asking the
motor to spin at a slow speed while driving a relatively high pitch.
These motors run best at high speeds.  This will draw less amperage
and everything will run cooler.

I'm no expert, but I'm getting nearly 6:30 out of TP 2100 packs on an
SE with a 13T pinion and the 430L motor.  On my SEV2, I get 5:30 using
25C packs, 13T pinion and the 430XL motor.

Here's how I've got mine set up:

NOR
Pitch - -4, -2, 0, 6, 11 (in degrees.  You may not get to +11 since
I've modified my washout block a bit.  The "key" here is 0 degrees at
half stick, with a linear curve above half stick and a reduced
negative range below half stick (Useful for descending in the wind)

Throttle- 0, 50, 90, 95, 100 - Note the midpoint.  Throttle at 0 pitch
on the blades will be 90%.  You're up in the motor's "power band" and
from there it will increase as you add pitch.  This will lower your
Amp draw and keep the motor, battery and ESC cooler, *AND* extend your
run time.

In addition, this will get you hovering above half stick, which is
where you'll be hovering once you get into idle up flight.  Just be
aware this will push your headspeed up near 3000 RPM with a 13Th
pinion.  Make sure your blades are balanced and well tracked *AND* you
run no less than the pro-woodies (Tech-MP's woodies are identical, but
without the fancy graphics) as lesser blades could come part at that
speed.  The sound is intimidating, but the heli will be more stable
and a bit more responsive.  

For idle up settings:

Set the pitch curve to be linear: 0 - 25 - 50 - 75 - 100 and if your
mechanics are set up properly, that should net you around -10 - +10
pitch range.

Throttle set to 100, 95, 90, 95, 100.  

If you're thoroughly confused, head over to www.helifreak.com and
check out Finless Bob's Tech Room, for setup videos, specifically the
450 SE build videos.  There are about a dozen videos there that will
guide you through everything from the actual build to setting up the
head, to gyro setup to maintenance.  I would suggest you start with
the CCPM1 and CCPM2 videos as they'll directly address your current
issue.

Good luck!