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Restricted Item for shipping to UAE

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Uwe Baier - 17 Oct 2007 10:45 GMT
Hello @ all,
I'm like to up grate my Futaba 9C Super with that
FASST 2.4 Ghz Module and receiver.
Unfortunately it seams that some of the online shops in U.S. can't ship
that Item to U.A.E.
For example Tower Hobbies:
http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXRTU1&P=ML#
Now my question: Other Online Shops do not show that restriction on
their page or I found one in Switz who also have no problem  to sale
and ship my that item.
Why is it on some US Shop a restricted item and who restricted that.
I mean if I let it now ship from for example Switz or Germany, is the
custom here may the restricter. How I can find out if I can import
that item?
Unusual question but maybe someone know.

Regards, Uwe.
Chuck - 17 Oct 2007 17:23 GMT
Are you sure that 2.4Ghz is even legal for use in the UAE?

> Hello @ all,
> I'm like to up grate my Futaba 9C Super with that
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>
> Regards, Uwe.
Doug McLaren - 17 Oct 2007 20:35 GMT
| Are you sure that 2.4Ghz is even legal for use in the UAE?

2.4 GHz is legal in much (most?) of the world, but the power limits do
vary from place to place.  Like the US allows one watt, but Europe
only 0.1 watt so things have to have their power levels reduced.

And even if the item fits all the local requirements, it may be that
the local FCC equivilent hasn't approved it so it can't be imported.
Or maybe Tower Hobbies just doesn't know and doesn't want to take the
risk.

Not that I know anything about the UAE, but certainly I'm not
suprised by any of this.

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Kevin - 17 Oct 2007 21:05 GMT
> | Are you sure that 2.4Ghz is even legal for use in the UAE?
>
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> Not that I know anything about the UAE, but certainly I'm not
> suprised by any of this.

I think you will find Europe has full power sets now, the first sets
were for land craft and parkfly but now we have full range sets as well,
at least in the UK its true
jc - 18 Oct 2007 07:53 GMT
>Hello @ all,
>I'm like to up grate my Futaba 9C Super with that
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>
>Regards, Uwe.

Uwe, are you certain you are even allowed to own a transmitter in the UAE?  When
I was in Riyadh in the early 80's private citizens in Arabia, the UAE, Yemen,
Jordan and most other countries in the area were not allowed to have
transmitters of any kind.  Friends still in Arabia say this is still true there
but I don't know anyone in UAE so I can't comment, other than to say be careful!
Cheers,
jc
Uwe Baier - 20 Oct 2007 06:19 GMT
>>Hello @ all,
>>I'm like to up grate my Futaba 9C Super with that
>>FASST 2.4 Ghz Module and receiver.
>>Unfortunately it seams that some of the online shops in U.S. can't ship
>>that Item to U.A.E.
[...]

> Uwe, are you certain you are even allowed to own a transmitter in the UAE?  When
> I was in Riyadh in the early 80's private citizens in Arabia, the UAE, Yemen,
> Jordan and most other countries in the area were not allowed to have
> transmitters of any kind.  Friends still in Arabia say this is still true there
> but I don't know anyone in UAE so I can't comment, other than to say be careful!
> Cheers,

Hi,
If it would be in Dubai UAE like you this, I would not asked the
question.
Here you can buy any kind of R/C equipment and all of the Spectrum
2.4Ghz Transmitter and Receiver.
So why would the US Government restrict to ship those Futaba Modules to
UAE?

But I know from a fellow that in Saudi Arabia the use of R/C is
forbidden but there are flying Club's as well.

Regards Uwe.
jc - 21 Oct 2007 21:49 GMT
>Hi,
>If it would be in Dubai UAE like you this, I would not asked the
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
>Regards Uwe.

Uwe, there were clubs in Arabia when I lived there (in the early 80's) but only
members of the royal family and their very close friends were allowed.  Regular
people were not invited to join.  The royal family  can do just about anything
they want, murder included, unless a higher ranking member says they can not.
It's a great system if you're anywhere near the top of the system.  It is very
possible that has changed since I left, but friends I have still there say that
bringing in RC equipment is still not allowed.

Even when I brought in U-control kits they and related items (including some gun
magazines)  were siezed and I had to talk to, fortunately, a very nice Captain
in Customs.  He allowed me to have them but could have easily, without reason,
made me ship them back to the US, as happened with my RC things on a previous
trip.  The biggest problem was fuel, since alcohol is not allowed in the
country.  At least I got a lot of building done....

The only reason I could think of the US Govt. might try to restrict shipment of
anything to the UAE is in regard to the technology transfer laws, which should
only apply to US technology, not something imported from another country.  It
sounds like a typical government screw up.
Cheers,
jc
Ralph Jones - 21 Oct 2007 23:20 GMT
[snip]
>trip.  The biggest problem was fuel, since alcohol is not allowed in the
>country.  At least I got a lot of building done....

I've read of that ban on even non-drinkable alcohol before. It just
occurred to me to wonder: Do doctors and hospitals have to do without
it?

rj
Ron van Sommeren - 21 Oct 2007 23:39 GMT
Goedendag ;-)

Next time just say it's fuel, or cleaning solvent. Nothing more

Vriendelijke groeten ;-) Ron van Sommeren
near Nijmegen, the Netherlands
int. electric fly-in http://home.hetnet.nl/~ronvans

> [snip]
>>trip.  The biggest problem was fuel, since alcohol is not allowed in the
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> rj
Uwe Baier - 22 Oct 2007 13:40 GMT
>>Hi,
>>If it would be in Dubai UAE like you this, I would not asked the
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>>So why would the US Government restrict to ship those Futaba Modules to
>>UAE?

>>But I know from a fellow that in Saudi Arabia the use of R/C is
>>forbidden but there are flying Club's as well.

>>Regards Uwe.

> Uwe, there were clubs in Arabia when I lived there (in the early 80's) but only
> members of the royal family and their very close friends were allowed.  Regular
> people were not invited to join.
[...]

Thats a different subject and I will anyhow not go to Saudi.

> The only reason I could think of the US Govt. might try to restrict shipment of
> anything to the UAE is in regard to the technology transfer laws, which should
> only apply to US technology, not something imported from another country.  It
> sounds like a typical government screw up.
> Cheers,

Never mind, I will order the Module from Switzerland and than we see
if I it will be refused by the custom here.

Thanks and regards, Uwe.
 
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