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Model Forum / Radio Controlled / Helicopters / March 2008Newbie Ques - Easy Copter V6
Hi - I've just got into the fascination of flying and I've bought an Easy Copter V6 - I was advised that this is one of the best for newbie's. My question is: If the trimming is set accurately, should the heli hover in the same position? At present I can only get it to hover in one position using both levers. TIA - Dave --- David Scott Hampshire, England > Hi - I've just got into the fascination of flying and I've bought an Easy > Copter V6 - I was advised that this is one of the best for newbie's. My > question is: If the trimming is set accurately, should the heli hover in > the same position? At present I can only get it to hover in one position > using both levers. That's called "flying". If a heli could hover all on its own, it wouldn't require much in the way of skill and flying IS a skill. Even a contra rotating toy requires a LITLE skill. Just think hard about what you're expecting and then think what would be required to achieve your "frozen in space" hands off hover. First of all you'd need something to adjust the height and that would require the height is measured (Doppler radar maybe?) and then you'd need something to control the position of the heli relative to some point on the ground. This would require something to determine (measure) exactly where the heli is in space and then pass that information along so an automatic control input could be sent. (GPS maybe?) All that in a toy?  SignatureBeav VN 750 Zed 1000 OMF# 19 >> Hi - I've just got into the fascination of flying and I've bought an Easy >> Copter V6 - I was advised that this is one of the best for newbie's. My [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > All that in a toy? I take it that's a no! >>> Hi - I've just got into the fascination of flying and I've bought an Easy >>> Copter V6 - I was advised that this is one of the best for newbie's. My [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] >> > I take it that's a no! correct its a bit like balancing a ball on top of another ball but in a gale, its always always going to need small corrections to stay at the same height and relative position >>>> Hi - I've just got into the fascination of flying and I've bought an >>>> Easy Copter V6 - I was advised that this is one of the best for [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > gale, its always always going to need small corrections to stay at the > same height and relative position Thanks for that - that's what I assumed but wanted it confirmed. BTW Good explanation - suits my Janet & John thinking :-; >>>> Hi - I've just got into the fascination of flying and I've bought an >>>> Easy Copter V6 - I was advised that this is one of the best for [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > gale, its always always going to need small corrections to stay at the > same height and relative position If you're flying in a gale, it might take a bit more than "small" corrections to maintain height and relative position! ;-) My personal definition of a "trimmed" helicopter is one that doesn't "trend" in the same direction all the time. If it's always trying to go forward, or sideways in the same direction, then it's out of trim. Once you get it to the point where it's not doing that, then the direction it's going to move toward next is more a function of how precisely the "pilot" can position and set the attitude of the main rotor. That, of course, also assumes and free moving and slop free control system to the main rotor but that's another conversation in itself! Fly Safe, Steve R. >Hi - I've just got into the fascination of flying and I've bought an Easy >Copter V6 - I was advised that this is one of the best for newbie's. My [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >TIA - Dave Hi Dave, welcome to the world of RC helicopters. Try going to www.rcgroups.com and create an account, it is free and they will not spam you. Poke around for the helicopter section. The people there are more than willing to help newbies. Tampa Bob >>Hi - I've just got into the fascination of flying and I've bought an Easy >>Copter V6 - I was advised that this is one of the best for newbie's. My [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Tampa Bob That's good advice Bob - I'll get over there now. I'm really going to enjoy this hobby! www.helifreak is also a good place to start! www.helifreak.com ,sorry : ) >www.helifreak.com ,sorry : ) Definitely a good place to start. No bickering, insult hurling (except in fun) and good folks. >>www.helifreak.com ,sorry : ) > > Definitely a good place to start. No bickering, insult hurling > (except in fun) and good folks. What, there's some serious insult hurling here? Whatever next! :-) SignatureBeav VN 750 Zed 1000 OMF# 19 >>> www.helifreak.com ,sorry : ) >> Definitely a good place to start. No bickering, insult hurling [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Whatever next! :-) what is he talking about insults "never" >>>www.helifreak.com ,sorry : ) >> >> Definitely a good place to start. No bickering, insult hurling >> (except in fun) and good folks. > >What, there's some serious insult hurling here? Hardly. Insults here are like having a marshmallow fight.. I was referring more to the ridiculous crap that goes on on other radio controlled forums - especially RunRyder.... >>>>www.helifreak.com ,sorry : ) >>> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > I was referring more to the ridiculous crap that goes on on other > radio controlled forums - especially RunRyder.... I did Runryder a LONG time ago. Never again. SignatureBeav VN 750 Zed 1000 OMF# 19 >I did Runryder a LONG time ago. Never again. Me either. Been a couple years since I've been there. Receiving a warning for "arguing" with a user over what ground effect is was the final straw. OK fine, you want dumbasses to feed the unknowing masses incorrect information, fine with me.. >>I did Runryder a LONG time ago. Never again. > > Me either. Been a couple years since I've been there. Receiving a > warning for "arguing" with a user over what ground effect is was the > final straw. Ahh, arguing with one of the clique REALY isn't on Kev. > OK fine, you want dumbasses to feed the unknowing masses incorrect > information, fine with me.. Precisely why I binned it off. SignatureBeav VN 750 Zed 1000 OMF# 19 >Ahh, arguing with one of the clique REALY isn't on Kev. This guy wasn't one of the "clique".. Just some dumbass know-it-all from Arizona. Several other full scale pilots chimed to to try nd get this guy clued in, but he cried like a little bitch to Mark and we all got "detention". >> OK fine, you want dumbasses to feed the unknowing masses incorrect >> information, fine with me.. > >Precisely why I binned it off. That whole site is a joke now. Just for giggles, I logged in there over the holiday. Nothing but petty arguments and name calling... >>Ahh, arguing with one of the clique REALY isn't on Kev. > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > That whole site is a joke now. Just for giggles, I logged in there > over the holiday. Nothing but petty arguments and name calling... I had the feeling that it wouldn't improve, so I've not bothered checking back for a long time. It'll be an even longer time now :-) SignatureBeav VN 750 Zed 1000 OMF# 19 >>Ahh, arguing with one of the clique REALY isn't on Kev. > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > That whole site is a joke now. Just for giggles, I logged in there > over the holiday. Nothing but petty arguments and name calling... Bad form and all that, but...... a question. I've got sat here a Trex 450 with a couple of Lipo batts and all the rest of the stuff (brushless motor.ESC etc) but I've run into an issue (rather than a big problem IYSWIM). After making all the connectors up for the batteries to the motor/ESC and all the charger&balancer leads, the f.cking battery "sparks" just once when I attempt to plug it into the ESC. Now I'm no leccy heli freak but I'm not convinced this is "A Good Thing". I could well be wrong though, so convince me, then maybe I'll finish this build and fly the f.cking thing. As a point of interest, there's no bridging going on at any of the connectors. The soldering was absolutely spot on and I know, because *I* did it :-) and I checked twice before committing the leads to the gun and afterwards too, so it's not a stray wire or a blob of solder that's causing a short anywhere and it happens with both the batteries when I plug into either the ESC or the charger. It's just a minute (as in small, not 1/60th of an hour:-) spark but it's pissing me off. And stopping the job. SignatureBeav VN 750 Zed 1000 OMF# 19 >>> Ahh, arguing with one of the clique REALY isn't on Kev. >> This guy wasn't one of the "clique".. Just some dumbass know-it-all [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > > And stopping the job. mine sparks as well, par for the course really there a couple of capacitors in ESC that might take a bit of current to charge >>>> Ahh, arguing with one of the clique REALY isn't on Kev. >>> This guy wasn't one of the "clique".. Just some dumbass know-it-all [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > mine sparks as well, par for the course really there a couple of > capacitors in ESC that might take a bit of current to charge Excellent. Thanks for the info. SignatureBeav VN 750 Zed 1000 OMF# 19 >>>>> Ahh, arguing with one of the clique REALY isn't on Kev. >>>> This guy wasn't one of the "clique".. Just some dumbass know-it-all [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > > Excellent. Thanks for the info. just used my power analyser and mine has a 7A surge when the battery is connected >I've got sat here a Trex 450 with a couple of Lipo batts and all the rest of >the stuff (brushless motor.ESC etc) but I've run into an issue (rather than [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >convinced this is "A Good Thing". I could well be wrong though, so convince >me, then maybe I'll finish this build and fly the f.cking thing. >As a point of interest, there's no bridging going on at any of the >connectors. The soldering was absolutely spot on and I know, because *I* [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >And stopping the job. That's normal. The capacitors in the ESC take a big slurp of electrons as soon as power's applied. That's the spark you're seeing. It's a really big spark on a 6S or 8S pack. :) Now power the little bugger up and fly the snot out of 'er!! >> I've got sat here a Trex 450 with a couple of Lipo batts and all the rest of >> the stuff (brushless motor.ESC etc) but I've run into an issue (rather than [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > Now power the little bugger up and fly the snot out of 'er!! Has Beav converted to wimpy electric jobbies or is it a build for some one else ? >Has Beav converted to wimpy electric jobbies or is it a build for some >one else ? I think he's finally seen the light. :) >>> I've got sat here a Trex 450 with a couple of Lipo batts and all the >>> rest of the stuff (brushless motor.ESC etc) but I've run into an issue [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > Has Beav converted to wimpy electric jobbies or is it a build for some one > else ? *DING*. As in... it's not f.cking mine :-) SignatureBeav VN 750 Zed 1000 OMF# 19 >>>> I've got sat here a Trex 450 with a couple of Lipo batts and all the >>>> rest of the stuff (brushless motor.ESC etc) but I've run into an issue [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > > *DING*. As in... it's not f.cking mine :-) I did wonder SignatureKevin R Reply address works >>>>> I've got sat here a Trex 450 with a couple of Lipo batts and all the >>>>> rest of the stuff (brushless motor.ESC etc) but I've run into an issue [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] >> > I did wonder I have to say I'm tempted though. The T-Rex (with added alloy parts) is a decent enough piece of kit and I've recently found a VERY nice site to fly something quiet. It may happen yet :-) (again) SignatureBeav VN 750 Zed 1000 OMF# 19 |
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