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Model Forum / Radio Controlled / Helicopters / December 2007Heli-Max
Hi all. New to this group. I haven't done any RC flying since I flew RC fixed wing years ago. Always been curious about helicopters. I flew the realflight g2 simulator for a while and then took the plunge. A small plunge. I forewent the 800.00 nitro and purchased a 150.00 electric Heli-Max Axe CP Mini EP. I figured that when I crashed it I'd only be out 150 instead of 1000. It's has about a 23" rotor diameter. Haven't broken any rotor blades yet but have gone through several flybar carriers and I think I bent the tailboom down slightly. It has an electric tailrotor motor so I don't think the slight bend will affect it's flyability. So far it's been all indoor but I think that's actually hampering things. Indoors I'm afraid to go more than a cvouple of inches off the ground. My hovering ability stinks. Outdoors I should just be able to get it the hell in the air and see what happens. I should be able to fly it. It's just hovering is pretty eratic. It's a ton of fun. Just saying. I'll take advice if you have it. Cheers > Hi all. New to this group. > I haven't done any RC flying since I flew RC fixed wing years ago. [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > I'll take advice if you have it. > Cheers I'm a complete newbie to this helicopter thingy and like you I'm nervous about flying indoors - particularly as I have a v large fish tank close by. To get around this I hire our local community hall ( x 6 squash courts in size) and hoping to get others interested in the hobby to join me. > Hi all. New to this group. > I haven't done any RC flying since I flew RC fixed wing years ago. [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > I'll take advice if you have it. > Cheers Hi Coustanis, Sounds like you're off to a good start. You're right, with a tail rotor driven by it's own separate electric motor, a slight bend in the tail boom won't hurt anything, up to a point of coures. In fact, I've seen a few nitro ships with belt driven tail rotors that still flew with a small bend in the tail boom. It's amazing what we get away with sometimes. :-) My impression from what you're saying makes me wonder if you've had anyone more experienced than you check out your helicopter for you? The small electric helicopters really do fly very well but because they are small, they can be more touchy to the controls than a larger nitro powered model will be. Properly setup, the little ones can be great little trainers and the cost advantages (as you pointed out!) are a big incentive to go the way you've chosen. The problem is that it's very hard for an inexperienced pilot to identify what, if anything, is wrong. I've met many newbe's through the years that thought their problems were their own because they've always heard that helicopters are hard to learn to fly. After a brief inspection, we'd discover one or two small items that weren't trimmed/adjusted properly and once those things were corrected they were amazed at the difference in stability and controllability. If any of this rings true for you, then the first thing I'd heartily recommend is that you get some experienced help to make sure that everything's right, especially before you attempt to fly the little bird outside. The other thing I'd warn you about is to remember that you are flying a really small model. Once you put it into forward flight outside, it will get VERY small as it flies away from you, and it's "amazing" how fast "that" happens! So be "real" conservative if you attempt this! ;-) Best of luck and let us know how it goes! Fly Safe, Steve R. > > Hi all. New to this group. > > I haven't done any RC flying since I flew RC fixed wing years ago. [quoted text clipped - 58 lines] > Fly Safe, > Steve R. I have an empty room upstairs that's 10 or 12 feet square. Not really large but good for low level hover practice. The owners manual said that because it was test flown at the factory, all the trim settings and such would be set correctly. Of course, several hard landings and hits on my part along with flybar removal / carrier replacement have probably chaged that. I'll get up to the local club as soon as I am able. >> "coustanis" <cousta...@yahoo.com> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > removal / carrier replacement have probably chaged that. > I'll get up to the local club as soon as I am able. I've always be suspicious of the "factory test flown" claims. I don't have experience with a great number of model helicopters for which that claim was made but with the few I have had experience with, I've found that some were relatively close to being right and others were a long way from being right. Just because it's been factory flown, doesn't mean it's setup as well as it could be for a beginner. I know the model is marketed toward the newer folks and you'd think that it would be setup for those people but sometimes it can be better. The point I'm trying to make may be totally moot. The model may be just fine but it would be nice to have confirmation of that. :-) Good luck & Fly Safe, Steve R. >>> "coustanis" <cousta...@yahoo.com> wrote in message >>> [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > Good luck & Fly Safe, > Steve R. I had a shop flown E-sky honey bee and no way was it flown as one servo on the ccpm head was so much slower than the other two ,just using the collective introduced left and forward and backwards and right cyclic depending which way the collective went >I have an empty room upstairs that's 10 or 12 feet square. Not really >large but [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >removal / carrier replacement have probably chaged that. >I'll get up to the local club as soon as I am able. *NEVER* trust a "factory flown" heli to be set up properly. A good pilot can successfully fly a porrly trimmed heli, a newbie cannot. I bought a Blade CP a couple years ago on a whim and while I was able to fly it, it flew like crap. Once I spent an hour or so getting it dialed in, it flew MUCH better. Find some help and get the thing set up properly and you'll be amazed at how much better it flies. [snipped for brevity] >If any of this rings true for you, then the first thing I'd heartily >recommend is that you get some experienced help to make sure that [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >Best of luck and let us know how it goes! One more thing to consider.. Safety. Both yours and anyone who may be in the area. Even a micro heli can do some damage if it hits you or someone else. My personal 'escape plan" should the heli get away from me or be headed towards persons or property.. crash. I'd rather wad up a heli than injure someone or damage someone's property - even if the heli was a total loss. Just be aware of your surroundings and try to fly with nobody around until you've built your skills up enough. I heartily second Steve's suggestion that you find some help. I started out solo and it took FOREVER to figure some of this stuff out. Once I found others in the area who also did the heli thing (and the various online forums) my skills developed exponentially. |
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