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Model Forum / Radio Controlled / Helicopters / February 2008helicopter model recommendation
I'm looking for a helicopter capable of flying a pre-programmed path for 1hr+ with a 5lb+ payload. Can anybody recommend a model that fits that description? (preferably with a product link) Bonus points if it can return to a charging/fueling station and recharge/refuel itself... Thanks, PaulH > I'm looking for a helicopter capable of flying a pre-programmed path > for 1hr+ with a 5lb+ payload. Can anybody recommend a model that fits [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Thanks, > PaulH ask the USAF no "model" is that capable, out of interest whats your budget? > > I'm looking for a helicopter capable of flying a pre-programmed path > > for 1hr+ with a 5lb+ payload. Can anybody recommend a model that fits [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > ask the USAF no "model" is that capable, out of interest whats your budget? preferably less than $10k. >>> I'm looking for a helicopter capable of flying a pre-programmed path >>> for 1hr+ with a 5lb+ payload. Can anybody recommend a model that fits [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > preferably less than $10k. I would have thought even a radio controlled one thats capable of carrying a 5LB payload for 1 hour is going to cost that here is a plane that will do more or less that http://www.military.com/soldiertech/0,14632,Soldiertech_SUAV1,,00.html and thats $30000 > >>> I'm looking for a helicopter capable of flying a pre-programmed path > >>> for 1hr+ with a 5lb+ payload. Can anybody recommend a model that fits [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > and thats $30000 Looks like I overestimated the state of the model helicopter industry. Thanks for your help, though. >>>>> I'm looking for a helicopter capable of flying a pre-programmed path >>>>> for 1hr+ with a 5lb+ payload. Can anybody recommend a model that fits [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > Looks like I overestimated the state of the model helicopter industry. > Thanks for your help, though. But what you need is no model and never will be, we don't need beyond line of sight models so why would any model manufacturer make one? the helicopters nowadays are very sophisticated compaired to a few years ago but none of us need 1 hour+ and a 5lb payload flight programmable helicopter, which there is never going to be a mass market for one, and that is what the market is driven by high volume mass production, and unless you are a terrorist why would you need one? >> >>> I'm looking for a helicopter capable of flying a pre-programmed path >> >>> for 1hr+ with a 5lb+ payload. Can anybody recommend a model that fits [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > Looks like I overestimated the state of the model helicopter industry. > Thanks for your help, though. You haven't overestimated anything except what the technology will cost you. As someone else pointed out, what you're asking for isn't part of the "modeling" industry. The technology to do what you're asking about is out there but you're seriously deluding yourself if you think you're going to be able to do it for anything near $10k, forget about going it for less than that! What exactly do you want to do with this? | I'm looking for a helicopter capable of flying a pre-programmed path | for 1hr+ with a 5lb+ payload. Can anybody recommend a model that fits [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] | Thanks, | PaulH I think it is now illegal to have a model capable of flying as you describe. AMA R/C rule #10 states that "the operator of a R/C aircraft must be in control the entire flight and maintain visual contact without visual enhancement other than prescription corrective lenses. No model aircraft shall be equipped with devices which allow it to be flown to a selected location which is beyond the visual range of the pilot." This rule is made necessary by our Federal Guv'mint, not the AMA. It is part of Homeland Security I believe.  SignatureAnyolmouse ---- Posted via Pronews.com - Premium Corporate Usenet News Provider ---- http://www.pronews.com offers corporate packages that have access to 100,000+ newsgroups > | I'm looking for a helicopter capable of flying a pre-programmed path > | for 1hr+ with a 5lb+ payload. Can anybody recommend a model that fits [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > ---- Posted via Pronews.com - Premium Corporate Usenet News Provider ----http://www.pronews.comoffers corporate packages that have access to 100,000+ newsgroups I did not know that. How are these people getting around that limitation? http://arl.stanford.edu/users/heli/ http://web.mit.edu/whall/www/heli/ http://www-robotics.jpl.nasa.gov/systems/system.cfm?System=13 | > "PaulH" <paul.h...@gmail.com> wrote in message news:ce4432cd-a072-48d5-ac89-5cae17d1aca8@n20g2000hsh.googlegroups.com... | > | I'm looking for a helicopter capable of flying a pre-programmed path | > | for 1hr+ with a 5lb+ payload. Can anybody recommend a model that fits [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] | > | > ---- Posted via Pronews.com - Premium Corporate Usenet News Provider ----http://www.pronews.comoffers corporate packages that have access to 100,000+ newsgroups | I did not know that. | How are these people getting around that limitation? | http://arl.stanford.edu/users/heli/ | http://web.mit.edu/whall/www/heli/ | http://www-robotics.jpl.nasa.gov/systems/system.cfm?System=13 The dates on the first two are from the 1990's, The last is a NASA project. I am sure the government or entities performing government research have nothing to fear. It appears our government does not want any terrorists building RPV bombs. Nor do I. Nor should you. SignatureAnyolmouse ---- Posted via Pronews.com - Premium Corporate Usenet News Provider ---- http://www.pronews.com offers corporate packages that have access to 100,000+ newsgroups >I'm looking for a helicopter capable of flying a pre-programmed path >for 1hr+ with a 5lb+ payload. Can anybody recommend a model that fits >that description? (preferably with a product link) > >Bonus points if it can return to a charging/fueling station and >recharge/refuel itself... No such exists. >Thanks, >PaulH Barry ===== Home page http://members.iinet.net.au/~barry.og > >I'm looking for a helicopter capable of flying a pre-programmed path > >for 1hr+ with a 5lb+ payload. Can anybody recommend a model that fits [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > ===== > Home pagehttp://members.iinet.net.au/~barry.og Hi Barry, Try to do a little research before you try to help or answer other hobbyist questions. The aircraft in question does exist but is mostly used for military application. >>> I'm looking for a helicopter capable of flying a pre-programmed path >>> for 1hr+ with a 5lb+ payload. Can anybody recommend a model that fits [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > hobbyist questions. The aircraft in question does exist but is mostly > used for military application. but a "model" does not exsist, I dont class a military drone as a model > I'm looking for a helicopter capable of flying a pre-programmed path > for 1hr+ with a 5lb+ payload. Can anybody recommend a model that fits [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Thanks, > PaulH Yes, you can make this aircraft with the correct servos and programmable software. But be careful of what you ask for. Hint try solar panels for the charging system. It sounds like you went to MIT. Good Luck. > > I'm looking for a helicopter capable of flying a pre-programmed path > > for 1hr+ with a 5lb+ payload. Can anybody recommend a model that fits [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > solar panels for the charging system. It sounds like you went to MIT. > Good Luck. No, went to Iowa State. This one of several possibilities I'm looking at as some out-of-the-box thinking to automate some processes for work. I was looking at something like this: http://www.bergenrc.com/Twin.php It exceeds the payload weight requirement and, if I increased the size of the fuel tank, it could meet the flight time requirement. I'm not sure if the Futaba controls could be made to interface with a PC or not. If not, I would need to put some on-board smarts in to the thing and that's more work than I really want to do, but it could be done.... Anybody know anything about that? It could not refuel itself, obviously, but that was just bonus points... It's more work that I wanted to do, but I could still be within the $10K. -PaulH >>> I'm looking for a helicopter capable of flying a pre-programmed path >>> for 1hr+ with a 5lb+ payload. Can anybody recommend a model that fits [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > > -PaulH that model alone is $6500+ which leaves £3500 for the GPS the sensors the computer ETC >> > I'm looking for a helicopter capable of flying a pre-programmed >> > path for 1hr+ with a 5lb+ payload. Can anybody recommend a model [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > It's more work that I wanted to do, but I could still be within the > $10K. Paul I think the reason that caution is being expressed is that you are building a cruise missile. That may seem like a cool thing to do. Let us know in 10 years. Cheers Greg Locock >>>> I'm looking for a helicopter capable of flying a pre-programmed >>>> path for 1hr+ with a 5lb+ payload. Can anybody recommend a model [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Greg Locock A 5lb bomb aint going to do that much damage :-) Kevin brought forth on stone tablets: >>>>> I'm looking for a helicopter capable of flying a pre-programmed >>>>> path for 1hr+ with a 5lb+ payload. Can anybody recommend a model [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] >> > A 5lb bomb aint going to do that much damage :-) anti-personnel mines contain approximately 150 grams of explosive. 5 lb will make a big bang. > Kevin brought forth on stone tablets: >> [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > anti-personnel mines contain approximately 150 grams of explosive. 5 lb > will make a big bang. not exactly a "cruise missile" warhead though even a scud had more >> anti-personnel mines contain approximately 150 grams of explosive. 5 >> lb will make a big bang. > not exactly a "cruise missile" warhead though even a scud had more Well, then how about we call it a technology demonstrator for a cruise missile? I don't think scaling helicopters /up/ is quite as difficult as scaling them /down/ is it? Cheers Greg Locock >>> anti-personnel mines contain approximately 150 grams of explosive. 5 >>> lb will make a big bang. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Greg Locock very true bigger is easier. I cannot think of many situations where you could require a model helicopter to do what the op is asking without it being done for illegal reasons, if the OP is still reading this give us a clue what you are trying to achieve >> I'm looking for a helicopter capable of flying a pre-programmed path >> for 1hr+ with a 5lb+ payload. Can anybody recommend a model that fits [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > solar panels for the charging system. It sounds like you went to MIT. > Good Luck. how many solar panels would it take to charge such a beast??? and what would be the recharge time > I'm looking for a helicopter capable of flying a pre-programmed path > for 1hr+ with a 5lb+ payload. Can anybody recommend a model that fits > that description? (preferably with a product link) > > Bonus points if it can return to a charging/fueling station and > recharge/refuel itself... May be worth looking at <http://www.neural-robotics.com/> ? Don't think it can refuel itself though. Also, if you decide to go it alone on the control front there is an open source software project called Coptershyna on sourceforge : <http://sourceforge.net/projects/coptershyna/> The homepage for this is at <http://coptershyna.sourceforge.net/> Hth, SignatureBoo >> I'm looking for a helicopter capable of flying a pre-programmed path >> for 1hr+ with a 5lb+ payload. Can anybody recommend a model that fits [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Hth, bit more than the op's $10k budget nice link though > I'm looking for a helicopter capable of flying a pre-programmed path > for 1hr+ with a 5lb+ payload. Can anybody recommend a model that fits [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Thanks, > PaulH Try this link: http://bargainmargin.com/Rc_Helicopter.html Dan |
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