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KGB - 17 Sep 2009 18:57 GMT
Hi folks

I received my E-Flite Blade MSR today.  

Nippy little bugger!!!!!!!!!  8^)

It flew well in a light breeze in my garden - thrown around a bit by
the breeze, but given the size and weight, I am surprised it coped as
well as it did (Conditions were a bit marginal but I couldn't resist
trying it outside).  A bit twitchy compared to the MCX and the rudder
control is a bit fierce, but overall I would recommend it.

However, I have just noticed that, when viewed directly from the rear,
the main shaft is not square and is at an approximate 5 degrees angle
clockwise.  It flies well with the trims more or less central and
there is no sign of damage or stress to the mainframe so I am guessing
this is a design feature to aid hovering rather than a result of
accidentally landing in the bushes a couple of times, although I
cannot find any mention of this offset in the instructions and didn't
notice it when I received the heli.

Regards

KGB
jg.wakefieldXXDELETEME@virgin.net - 22 Sep 2009 21:05 GMT
> Hi folks
>
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>
> KGB

I have one of these and I love it!

Mine also has the main shaft at an angle and a close look at the bearings
shows that this is designed in.
Thinking this through:
When hovering tail in, the rotors are trying to push the tail to the right.
The tail rotor therefore must push left.
To stop the entire heli drifting to the left in a hover due to the thrust
from the tail rotor we need to apply a small force to the right.
This would be achieved by angling the main rotors to the right.

I think this makes sense.
The OTHER Kevin in San Diego - 30 Sep 2009 23:29 GMT
>Hi folks
>
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>cannot find any mention of this offset in the instructions and didn't
>notice it when I received the heli.

I picked up one of these little guys a few weeks ago..  It's fun as
hell inside and out.  I haven't managed to loop it yet - doesn't seem
to have enough "oomph" to get over the top - but it will stall turn
with a REALLY good head of steam before the pull up.

The "tilt" of the mainshaft is designed in from what I understand.
I've seen several of these things and they're all "tweaked" a bit..

I've shelved my mCX since buying this little guy.  It's more fun to
harass the cats with it 'cuz it's quite a bit more manueverable than
the mCX so the evil beasts can't get away so easily.  :)
Iron Man - 12 Oct 2009 03:51 GMT
> I picked up one of these little guys a few weeks ago..  It's fun as
> hell inside and out.  I haven't managed to loop it yet - doesn't seem
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> harass the cats with it 'cuz it's quite a bit more manueverable than
> the mCX so the evil beasts can't get away so easily.  :)

These are very stong and can withstand quite a hit. I was expert with
the mCX. Anyone who is will have no problem being able to not crash
and do forward flight immediately. You just have to kick it up high
enough to get out of ground effects.

Today I crashed nose first into my drape rails. It would not control
at all and I thought I would have to buy another one. Then after some
examination I find the guide pin in the back of the swash plate came
out of it's guide rails. I popped it back where it belongs and everything
was all good. Before that the forward reverse servo was bound up.
I thought I broke something in the gearing or something.

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The OTHER Kevin in San Diego - 15 Oct 2009 18:17 GMT
>These are very stong and can withstand quite a hit. I was expert with
>the mCX. Anyone who is will have no problem being able to not crash
>and do forward flight immediately. You just have to kick it up high
>enough to get out of ground effects.

You do realize (again) that flight *IN* ground effect takes LESS power
than flight out of ground effect.   Hovering out of ground effect
takes the most power.  Forward flight at the point where the lift and
drag coefficients meet takes the least.

>Today I crashed nose first into my drape rails. It would not control
>at all and I thought I would have to buy another one. Then after some
>examination I find the guide pin in the back of the swash plate came
>out of it's guide rails. I popped it back where it belongs and everything
>was all good. Before that the forward reverse servo was bound up.
>I thought I broke something in the gearing or something.

Um if you are an "expert" how did you crash?  :)
Iron Man - 16 Oct 2009 03:21 GMT
>>Today I crashed nose first into my drape rails. It would not control
>>at all and I thought I would have to buy another one. Then after some
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> Um if you are an "expert" how did you crash?  :)

Expert with the mCX not the mSR. Please do try to keep up :-)
The OTHER Kevin in San Diego - 16 Oct 2009 18:51 GMT
>>>Today I crashed nose first into my drape rails. It would not control
>>>at all and I thought I would have to buy another one. Then after some
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>
>Expert with the mCX not the mSR. Please do try to keep up :-)

Your post mentions the mCX specifically, NOT the mSR.  Please do try
to keep up.  :)
Iron Man - 17 Oct 2009 05:56 GMT
>>>>Today I crashed nose first into my drape rails. It would not control
>>>>at all and I thought I would have to buy another one. Then after some
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> Your post mentions the mCX specifically, NOT the mSR.  Please do try
> to keep up.  :)

The topic under discussion hence the subject line is the mSR not the mCX.
So I was an expert with the mCX and had an unfortunate encounter with
the mSR. But I am now close to the expert level with the mSR.

So there :-)

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Beav - 30 Nov 2009 23:33 GMT
>>>>>Today I crashed nose first into my drape rails. It would not control
>>>>>at all and I thought I would have to buy another one. Then after some
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> So there :-)

I love experts.

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