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Model Forum / Radio Controlled / Helicopters / December 2009El Dorado, Long Beach, CA
Is anyone familiar with flying at El Dorado Park in Long Beach, CA? Brian  Signaturehttp://www.skywise711.com - Lasers, Seismology, Astronomy, Skepticism Seismic FAQ: http://www.skywise711.com/SeismicFAQ/SeismicFAQ.html Quake "predictions": http://www.skywise711.com/quakes/EQDB/index.html Sed quis custodiet ipsos Custodes? >Is anyone familiar with flying at El Dorado Park in Long Beach, CA? > >Brian I don't know if anyone flies over there or not.. I know if soccer isn't going on, the electric guys fly at Arbor Park right off Seal Beach Blvd and Lampson. >>Is anyone familiar with flying at El Dorado Park in Long Beach, CA? >> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > isn't going on, the electric guys fly at Arbor Park right off Seal > Beach Blvd and Lampson. Thanks. The reason I was asking, in brief, was that I had visited the park recently and talked to someone "in charge" and was left with a very bad impression. I've since learned from someone else that the person in question has a reputation for appointing themselves the policeman of the field and should be ignored. In any case, I flew there today and had a great time. There is a designated "glider field" that's quite large. It's on the very north-west corner of the park. BTW, I live but ten minutes from Arbor Park. Not been there, but something about flying RC next door to a military airfield is bothersome. Sure, it's not a very active field, but still.... Probably no chance to recover a downed plane over the fence? Brian Signaturehttp://www.skywise711.com - Lasers, Seismology, Astronomy, Skepticism Seismic FAQ: http://www.skywise711.com/SeismicFAQ/SeismicFAQ.html Quake "predictions": http://www.skywise711.com/quakes/EQDB/index.html Sed quis custodiet ipsos Custodes? >>>Is anyone familiar with flying at El Dorado Park in Long Beach, CA? >>> [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > bothersome. Sure, it's not a very active field, but still.... > Probably no chance to recover a downed plane over the fence? Harpoon? SignatureBeav VN 750 Zed 1000 OMF# 19 >>>Is anyone familiar with flying at El Dorado Park in Long Beach, CA? >>> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >that the person in question has a reputation for appointing themselves >the policeman of the field and should be ignored. I've not been to El Dorado myself, but I think I might actually know who you're referring to. :) >BTW, I live but ten minutes from Arbor Park. Not been there, but >something about flying RC next door to a military airfield is >bothersome. Sure, it's not a very active field, but still.... >Probably no chance to recover a downed plane over the fence? I don't know. As for flying there, the Orange County guys seem to drift between Arbor and the OCMA field by Lake Irvine. Best way to tell where they're flying is to visit the thread on Helifreak.com where they all discuss it the night before or early in the morning before heading out. http://www.helifreak.com/showthread.php?t=51663 > I've not been to El Dorado myself, but I think I might actually know > who you're referring to. :) I've been flying there two times now and both times have been very enjoyable. Although, this is on Friday's rather than Saturday's. Today I had one gentleman prod me about the requirement of AMA and I just told him my app's in the mail and he seemed happy. At least he wasn't a jerk about it. Yes, I will be joining. I was just waiting to get the AMA# for the other fellow who helped me re El Dorado so I can put him down as the reference since he encouraged me to fly there in spite of the "policeman". Speaking of which, he told me that there has been some discussion in his club about this "policeman" due to my encounter. The problem is that it is an open field and he's not in any of the clubs, so it's hard to enforce anything. Brian Signaturehttp://www.skywise711.com - Lasers, Seismology, Astronomy, Skepticism Seismic FAQ: http://www.skywise711.com/SeismicFAQ/SeismicFAQ.html Quake "predictions": http://www.skywise711.com/quakes/EQDB/index.html Sed quis custodiet ipsos Custodes? >> I've not been to El Dorado myself, but I think I might actually know >> who you're referring to. :) [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >I just told him my app's in the mail and he seemed happy. At least >he wasn't a jerk about it. If memory serves, there's no "club" at El Dorado (I may be wrong - I'm not an Orange County guy, I'm an hour or so south) so AMA isn't required. It *IS* a good idea to have it for the $2M insurance policy incase you have an "incident" with the heli. The insurance is supplemental to any homeowner's policy you may have and will cover you *IF* you're operating within the AMA safety code. FWIW: Now would be the time to join as the memberships run December to December and you'll get a full year for your $58 instead of a partial year with renewal in Dec '10 if you join later. >Yes, I will be joining. I was just waiting to get the AMA# >for the other fellow who helped me re El Dorado so I can put >him down as the reference since he encouraged me to fly there >in spite of the "policeman". Good idea. You WILL need AMA membership to fly at OCMA. >Speaking of which, he told me that there has been some discussion >in his club about this "policeman" due to my encounter. The >problem is that it is an open field and he's not in any of the >clubs, so it's hard to enforce anything. If he's not a member of any club, he doesn't really have a say in what goes on with club members and certainly doesn't have any authority over anyone else who may want to fly at that field. Peer pressure can be a good thing sometimes. :) > If memory serves, there's no "club" at El Dorado (I may be wrong - I'm > not an Orange County guy, I'm an hour or so south) so AMA isn't > required. There is at least a glider club that uses and competes at El Dorado. The person that set me straight helps run the club. Insurance is not required as it is an open field and a city park at that. The city cannot require you to join AMA. They may require insurance but he was not aware of them doing so. I joined AMA not for the insurance, but as was pointed out on a forum I read elsewhere, to support an organization that acts as a voice towards the government to protect my interests. The FAA and FCC after all are allowing us to do what we do. I just think a few people like to act high and mighty and appoint themselves the local a.shole...errr...policeman. To be honest, the substance and goal of what they say is good and laudable, but their approach is much to be desired. I would love to correct these folks, but I am the new kid on the block..... for now. Brian Signaturehttp://www.skywise711.com - Lasers, Seismology, Astronomy, Skepticism Seismic FAQ: http://www.skywise711.com/SeismicFAQ/SeismicFAQ.html Quake "predictions": http://www.skywise711.com/quakes/EQDB/index.html Sed quis custodiet ipsos Custodes? >> If memory serves, there's no "club" at El Dorado (I may be wrong - I'm >> not an Orange County guy, I'm an hour or so south) so AMA isn't [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > desired. I would love to correct these folks, but I am > the new kid on the block..... for now. You could always try using that most favoured of phrases when "Cop-Lite" shows up. "f.ck off c.nt" It work wonders. SignatureBeav VN 750 Zed 1000 OMF# 19 "Beav" <beavis.original@ntlwoxorld.com> wrote in news:Ms2Ym.81935$6O1.62163 @newsfe23.ams2: > You could always try using that most favoured of phrases when "Cop-Lite" > shows up. > > "f.ck off c.nt" It work wonders. Yeah, that's my instinct as well. I wouldn't care what he thought, but I don't want to make waves to the other folks I may be flying along side. Brian Signaturehttp://www.skywise711.com - Lasers, Seismology, Astronomy, Skepticism Seismic FAQ: http://www.skywise711.com/SeismicFAQ/SeismicFAQ.html Quake "predictions": http://www.skywise711.com/quakes/EQDB/index.html Sed quis custodiet ipsos Custodes? > "Beav" <beavis.original@ntlwoxorld.com> wrote in > news:Ms2Ym.81935$6O1.62163 [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > but I don't want to make waves to the other folks I may be flying > along side. You'd be doing what they all want to do but are too scared to do. SignatureBeav VN 750 Zed 1000 OMF# 19 "Beav" <beavis.original@ntlwoxorld.com> wrote in news:KWSYm.1823$3b4.534 @newsfe06.ams2: > You'd be doing what they all want to do but are too scared to do. Very probable. I think I'll wait a bit and try to feel out if that is the sentiment. Then, if he get's in my face on something I'll feel more comfortable telling him off. Although, I might not be bumping into him much anyway. I have Fri & Sat off from work and have been flying Friday's. It seems he's only there on weekends. Brian Signaturehttp://www.skywise711.com - Lasers, Seismology, Astronomy, Skepticism Seismic FAQ: http://www.skywise711.com/SeismicFAQ/SeismicFAQ.html Quake "predictions": http://www.skywise711.com/quakes/EQDB/index.html Sed quis custodiet ipsos Custodes? |
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