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Model Forum / Radio Controlled / Helicopters / January 2010Right you lot!
A pal came to our garage this week, armed with a f.cking electric heli. ready built and ready to fly. E-Flite MSR it is and I fly it I did. Much to his amazement and delight. f.cking great fun flying it through a car window (open) and out the other side, but (and it's a big but) I fear it would soon get old as it doesn't have much in the way of aerobatic capabilities.. So.... which of the "indoor" leccies are good for 3D. At least I don't have to learn how to fly upside down or learn how to do a backwards rolling circle with the odd piro thrown in, but I want to do it in the warm and in the dry and in the inside for a change. What do I look for? And if your comments are going to centre around Beav going electric, you can f.ck right off before you start :-) I'm sat here waiting....  SignatureBeav VN 750 Zed 1000 OMF# 19 >A pal came to our garage this week, armed with a f.cking electric heli. >ready built and ready to fly. E-Flite MSR it is and I fly it I did. Much to [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > I'm sat here waiting.... This is about the only "nano" sized heli that I've seen with collective pitch. There may be others, haven't searched lately. http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXWPW8&P=0 They have came a long way since the time of the "2 minute flights or up to 5 minutes if you run a cable to a power supply" days! I bought one of those Blade 400 a couple of years ago and it has incredible power to weight ratio. RogerN >>A pal came to our garage this week, armed with a f.cking electric heli. >>ready built and ready to fly. E-Flite MSR it is and I fly it I did. Much [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > I bought one of those Blade 400 a couple of years ago and it has > incredible power to weight ratio. That one (Novus) looks like it could be the one. What a bitch though that the Novus uses "normal" servo's where the E-Flite uses proper linear servo's, something I've said was necessary for years. Price is good, but I see that while the FP version comes with a CNC machined rotor head, the CP has a plastic head. Granted there's an upgrade path, but if there is, there's a need to have it and that pisses me off. No mention of how many batteries come with the heli either or prices for additional packs. The E-Flite batt can be had for pennies and the charger will charge 4 packs at one time. I shall explore this Novus some more I do believe. Cheers Roger SignatureBeav VN 750 Zed 1000 OMF# 19 Um whoops... The Eflite MSR is not collective pitch. It is fixed pitch. >>A pal came to our garage this week, armed with a f.cking electric heli. >>ready built and ready to fly. E-Flite MSR it is and I fly it I did. Much [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > > RogerN > Um whoops... The Eflite MSR is not collective pitch. It is fixed pitch. I know :-) SignatureBeav VN 750 Zed 1000 OMF# 19 >which of the "indoor" leccies are good for 3D. Align's T-rex 250 performs quite well and seems to be of decent quality. Probably a bit too large for living room flying, but if you have access to a gymnasium or similar, you'll have plenty of space. SignatureRoRo >>which of the "indoor" leccies are good for 3D. > > Align's T-rex 250 performs quite well and seems to be of decent > quality. Probably a bit too large for living room flying, but if you > have access to a gymnasium or similar, you'll have plenty of space. I've got a brand new (never flown) T-rex 450 sat in my workshop with all the upgrades available, plus two battery packs, the necessary charger and balancer. All doing nothing coz I can't be arsed finding somewhere to fly. I need TINY :-) SignatureBeav VN 750 Zed 1000 OMF# 19 >I've got a brand new (never flown) T-rex 450 sat in my workshop with all the >upgrades available, plus two battery packs, the necessary charger and >balancer. All doing nothing coz I can't be arsed finding somewhere to fly. I also have a 450. I can't imagine a heli that is easier to find a spot for. It can handle a decent breeze, and a big lawn works as a flying field in a pinch. >I >need TINY :-) OK, so we're talking living room size? I have also been looking for something to replace the PicooZ, except with collective and cyclic control. I read about the Novus a few days ago, so I hit Google to see what other people have to say about it. Some people say that it is a rebadge of an older Walkera model, and that Walkera's current model is a better machine. I haven't looked at any details yet. SignatureRoRo >>I've got a brand new (never flown) T-rex 450 sat in my workshop with all >>the [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > OK, so we're talking living room size? Indeed. But I want it capable of inverted flight at least. >I have also been looking for > something to replace the PicooZ, except with collective and cyclic > control. I read about the Novus a few days ago, so I hit Google to see > what other people have to say about it. Some people say that it is a > rebadge of an older Walkera model, and that Walkera's current model is > a better machine. I haven't looked at any details yet. I'll check out the Walkera site myself. SignatureBeav VN 750 Zed 1000 OMF# 19 >>>I've got a brand new (never flown) T-rex 450 sat in my workshop with >>>all the [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > I'll check out the Walkera site myself. I've got a Piccolo Pro that I don't use any more with standard gear (i.e. not Li-Po compatible) in it at the moment. You can have that if you want. E-mail me for more details: chris DOT dugan AT ntlworld DOT com Replace caps with punctuation SignatureChris >>>>I've got a brand new (never flown) T-rex 450 sat in my workshop with >>>>all the [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > You can have that if you want. That's very decent of you sir. > E-mail me for more details: E-mailed. >>I have also been looking for >> something to replace the PicooZ, except with collective and cyclic [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >I'll check out the Walkera site myself. I have looked into it bit more now. To me, there are two promising candidates: The 4G3 and the 4G6. They have exactly the same rotor diameter, but the 4G6 weighs almost 20g more. In return, it has a shaft driven tail with proper pitch control, where the 4G3 has a motor driven fixed-pitch tail rotor. 20g may not sound like much, but The 4G3 weighs only 68.4g, which means the 4G6 is almost 30% heavier. Both models are available with brushless motor. I was just about to order the '3 when Ivor pointed out the '6 (which I thought was bigger). Now, I don't know what to do... SignatureRoRo > On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 16:05:33 -0000, "Beav" > [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > -- > RoRo Loads of posts here about the 4g6( and every other heli), the 6 is definitely (imho) the better heli. http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1113341 On Dec 14, 2:11 pm, Robert Roland <f...@ddress.no> wrote: > On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 16:05:33 -0000, "Beav" > [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > -- > RoRo Loads of posts here about the 4g6( and every other heli), the 6 is definitely (imho) the better heli. So much so that two will be on order this very week. I need to find a UK supplier as I'm not of a mind to stump up import duty or VAT in order to "save" by getting something direct from the People's Republic. SignatureBeav VN 750 Zed 1000 OMF# 19 > Loads of posts here about the 4g6( and every other heli), the 6 is > definitely (imho) the better heli. > > So much so that two will be on order this very week. I need to find a UK > supplier as I'm not of a mind to stump up import duty or VAT in order to > "save" by getting something direct from the People's Republic. Something else to consider Beav - UK supplier and a few different models to choose from..... http://www.buzzflyer.co.uk/Sub-Micro-RC-Helicopters/c-1-97/ Cheers, David >> Loads of posts here about the 4g6( and every other heli), the 6 is >> definitely (imho) the better heli. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > http://www.buzzflyer.co.uk/Sub-Micro-RC-Helicopters/c-1-97/ Not utterly convinced Dave. It looks a little "less" than the 4g6 but costs more. I'll investigate some more on these two, but I'm leaning heavily towards the Walkera. SignatureBeav VN 750 Zed 1000 OMF# 19 >It looks a little "less" than the 4g6 but costs >more. Comparing the 3DS with the 4G6, I'd say they are perfectly identical. SignatureRoRo >>It looks a little "less" than the 4g6 but costs >>more. > > Comparing the 3DS with the 4G6, I'd say they are perfectly identical. Apart from a pretty substantial price advantage in favour of the Walkera. And the Walkera looks far better finished too. Buzz deluxe is 309 quid, 4g6 Premium 299 dollars. That's a f.cking big difference. SignatureBeav VN 750 Zed 1000 OMF# 19 >> Comparing the 3DS with the 4G6, I'd say they are perfectly identical. > > Apart from a pretty substantial price advantage in favour of the Walkera. > And the Walkera looks far better finished too. Orright, Beav ? Did you get one in the end ? What's it like ? Canirvago ? Happy New Year to all, SignatureBoo >>> Comparing the 3DS with the 4G6, I'd say they are perfectly identical. >> >> Apart from a pretty substantial price advantage in favour of the Walkera. >> And the Walkera looks far better finished too. > > Orright, Beav ? Aye! :-) >Did you get one in the end ? What's it like ? Canirvago ? Walkera on order, so nothing to report just yet. Blade MSR bought and now terrorising my dogs. And I got a Blade for the boy-chic too, so we can engage in some aerial combat. The grandaughter is happy with a Picoo type Hughes 300 (she's 5 years old) and she's terrorising the cats at her house:-) > Happy New Year to all, And the same to thee. SignatureBeav VN 750 Zed 1000 OMF# 19 . I >need TINY :-) Look down. :) > . I >>need TINY :-) > > Look down. :) Not THAT f.cking tiny. SignatureBeav VN 750 Zed 1000 OMF# 19 >A pal came to our garage this week, armed with a f.cking electric heli. >ready built and ready to fly. E-Flite MSR it is and I fly it I did. Much to [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >side, but (and it's a big but) I fear it would soon get old as it doesn't >have much in the way of aerobatic capabilities.. There are some upgrades available from MicroHeli and some other guy who's name starts with a "C" but I can't recall it at the moment. >So.... which of the "indoor" leccies are good for 3D. At least I don't have >to learn how to fly upside down or learn how to do a backwards rolling >circle with the odd piro thrown in, but I want to do it in the warm and in >the dry and in the inside for a change. > >What do I look for? I'd suggest a small electric helicopter. :) The Heli-Max Novus is evidently decent. Gaui's got a 100 sized micro. Walkera has a 4#3 CP and I recall seeing something called the Venom 3D that was a dinkl CP heli.. I don't have any experience with any of them so can't comment on the good, bad or ugly with anything but what I've read or seen on the forums. >And if your comments are going to centre around Beav going electric, you can >f.ck right off before you start :-) [f.cking right off] Beav? Electric?? I thought the world wasn't scheduled to end until 2012!!! >I'm sat here waiting.... I hope your a.s goes to sleep... >>A pal came to our garage this week, armed with a f.cking electric heli. >>ready built and ready to fly. E-Flite MSR it is and I fly it I did. Much [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > I'd suggest a small electric helicopter. :) I'd thought about that, but then I thought "Electric?.... ME?... in 2009?" > The Heli-Max Novus is evidently decent. Gaui's got a 100 sized micro. > Walkera has a 4#3 CP and I recall seeing something called the Venom 3D > that was a dinkl CP heli.. I don't have any experience with any of > them so can't comment on the good, bad or ugly with anything but what > I've read or seen on the forums. I f.cking hate forums. >>And if your comments are going to centre around Beav going electric, you >>can >>f.ck right off before you start :-) > > [f.cking right off] Beav? Electric?? I thought the world wasn't > scheduled to end until 2012!!! I'm booked on one of the Arks and I can't get outside to fly. >>I'm sat here waiting.... > > I hope your a.s goes to sleep... I've got a very comfortable arse cozy :-) SignatureBeav VN 750 Zed 1000 OMF# 19 > A pal came to our garage this week, armed with a f.cking electric heli. > ready built and ready to fly. E-Flite MSR it is and I fly it I did. Much to [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > Zed 1000 > OMF# 19 Try this f.cker http://www.chinesejade.com/walkera4G6_Heli.htm Described in two words. Fuckin' Brill. On Nov 29, 3:01 pm, "Beav" <beavis.origi...@ntlwoxorld.com> wrote: > A pal came to our garage this week, armed with a f.cking electric heli. > ready built and ready to fly. E-Flite MSR it is and I fly it I did. Much [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > Zed 1000 > OMF# 19 Try this f.cker I'll f.cking consider it, that's for sure. http://www.chinesejade.com/walkera4G6_Heli.htm Described in two words. Fuckin' Brill. Ahhh, my kind of speak :-) I thang ewe. 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