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Danny - 06 Jan 2010 01:43 GMT
FedEx brought the $20.00 USD Esky simulator today. The software installed
without problems and the laptop recognized and installed the USB radio with
out a hitch.
My, oh my. I can see I will need about a month on the simulator before I
attempt to fly my Falcon 40 that was received for Christmas.  Watching
YouTube videos of expert helo pilots who make it look easy, is misleading.
The simulator really shows my shortcomings.  Looking forward to learning.

Danny
Steve R. - 06 Jan 2010 20:50 GMT
> FedEx brought the $20.00 USD Esky simulator today. The software installed
> without problems and the laptop recognized and installed the USB radio
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> Danny

Good for you Danny, you're on your way.

Yup, watching people that know how to fly always makes it look easier than
it really is.  The first person I ever saw fly one turned out to be the
reigning US National Champ for that year.  I didn't know that of course but
I came away from watching him thinking, "yeah, I can do that!!"

Little did I know!  ;-)

Best of luck and let us know how it goes when you try the real thing.  On
that same note, do try to have an expert do the initial trim flights on your
Falcon.  Even if you're handling the sim comfortably, you'll find the real
thing a handful if it's not properly trimmed.  It takes a bit of experience
to learn "what" to adjust based on what you're feeling on those initial
flights.

Good luck,
Steve R.
Cixcos - 30 Mar 2010 22:34 GMT
I recommend Clearview

http://rcflightsim.com/

It's a big improvement over FMS and only around $40. I also have a
Falcon 40 and have replaced every part on it (you will crash a lot at
first). I started a few months ago and now hardly ever crash. I'm now
moving to the collective pitch models. Just don't give up, and practice
a lot on the sim.

Good Luck!

Ben

>> FedEx brought the $20.00 USD Esky simulator today. The software
>> installed without problems and the laptop recognized and installed the
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> Good luck,
> Steve R.
Danny - 01 Apr 2010 19:10 GMT
I have broken a few parts on the Falcon 40. Still have the training gear on
and have NOT flown it much at all.  I did put on super skids and super
blades but have a servo out. reordering a couple of those shortly.  I also
have one co-axial 4 channel that has proven to be somewhat easier for the
novice. At least I can hover and fly it fairly well.  Replacing parts on it
too.   Darned money pits....
Danny

>I recommend Clearview
>
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>> Good luck,
>> Steve R.
hamilton - 02 Apr 2010 01:18 GMT
WARNING: newbe at keyboard

> I have broken a few parts on the Falcon 40. Still have the training gear
> on and have NOT flown it much at all. I did put on super skids and super
> blades but have a servo out. reordering a couple of those shortly. I
> also have one co-axial 4 channel that has proven to be somewhat easier

Whats a "co-axial 4 channel"  ??

> for the novice. At least I can hover and fly it fairly well. Replacing
> parts on it too. Darned money pits....
> Danny
Danny - 02 Apr 2010 18:28 GMT
Can't be more new than I am, Hamilton. A coaxial heli is a helicopter with
two rotors that turn in opposite directions...counter rotating.  They
usually have no functioning tail rotor.  The 4 channels give four
directions..up/down, left/right, forward/rear, yaw (tail moves left/right.
More stable than a single rotor Heli.  Something to get me into the air
quicker without the learning curve and costs of a single rotor, fixed pitch
or collective pitch Heli.
Danny

Check out the coaxials here and other suppliers:
http://www.xheli.com/coaxial.html

> WARNING: newbe at keyboard
>
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>> parts on it too. Darned money pits....
>> Danny
hamilton - 02 Apr 2010 21:07 GMT
> Can't be more new than I am, Hamilton. A coaxial heli is a helicopter
> with two rotors that turn in opposite directions...counter rotating.
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> Check out the coaxials here and other suppliers:
> http://www.xheli.com/coaxial.html

Now this looks like fun !!

Thanks for the insight.

I am in the market for a new hobby, and this looks like it !!

Does anyone know if, for the price of stability, does speed (of flying)
or batter life gets compromised ??

thanks

hamilton
Steve R. - 03 Apr 2010 01:39 GMT
>> Can't be more new than I am, Hamilton. A coaxial heli is a helicopter
>> with two rotors that turn in opposite directions...counter rotating.
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> hamilton

Can't generally say for battery life although I've been impressed with the
endurance of the coaxial birds I've the a chance to play with.  I can tell
you that the price of stability of such models does compromise things like
flying speed.  Get them moving in the right way and they can scoot right
along but they are nowhere near as fast or maneuverable as a standard single
rotor/tail rotor design.  That's what makes them such good trainers in the
first place.  It's much harder for the raw beginner to get in trouble.  They
are a good starting point for someone who's never touched an RC helicopter
before but if you've got any natural aptitude, you'll outgrow the coaxial
bird fairly quickly.

If you don't have one already, you might want to consider an RC simulator.
There are a number of really good ones on the market.  I've got the Phoenix
sim and really like it.  I fly it with my personal transmitter through a USB
adaptor.  Real Flight is also very popular and can be had with it's own
"transmitter."  They'll give you a good taste of what it's like to fly a
"real" RC model helicopter as well as fixed wing airplanes, without risking
the ol wallet in the process.  ;-)

Good luck & Enjoy!
Steve R.
The OTHER Kevin in San Diego - 28 Jan 2010 17:21 GMT
>FedEx brought the $20.00 USD Esky simulator today. The software installed
>without problems and the laptop recognized and installed the USB radio with
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>
>Danny

See if you can find a vid of one of those hotshots with a "stick cam"
inset so you can see what kind of wild gyrations their sticks do to
get the helicopter to fly like a pissed off hornet.
 
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