I have a question. I've taught myself to hover tail in and right or left
side and can do that competently and consistently. I feel like if I just go
for it I can fly this thing but I'm not sure of the outcome, so to speak.
How do i teach myself to transition into forward flight. I can't find
anyone who can help me. I have been flying planes for a couple of years.
My copter is a Raptor V1 and is setup with 0-9 degrees of main rotor pitch
and I have the tail rotor mixed in to keep it straight as I increase
throttle/collective. And it hovers at 1/2 stick.
Thanks for reading and your anticipated help!
Jim
Rhodesst - 24 Sep 2003 22:24 GMT
>I have a question. I've taught myself to hover tail in and right or left
>side and can do that competently and consistently. I feel like if I just go
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>Jim
Hi Jim,
If you're hovering at all orientations, I don't think you'll have much trouble
with forward flight. One thing you'll definitely want to do before going into
forward flight is program your minimum collective pitch down to around a -3 to
-4 degrees. Zero degrees isn't low enough to make your approach back to hover
very easy, the model will want to float too much and you'll probably find that
your rotor rpm will be slowing down a lot in the process. Not a good thing!
Once you've got the collective reprogrammed, just sneak up on the forward
flight thing. I'm sure you've moved the helicopter around while it's in a
hover? Just start with nice, small and easy figure eights. As you get more
comfortable with them, let them get bigger and bigger. Go slow and take your
time here. After a while, as the figure eight pattern gets bigger, you'll
discover that you're already in forward flight and it'll be no big deal. After
that, enjoy yourself and play with the different orientations while up and
moving. Make turns away from yourself and then try making them toward
yourself. Be conservative and take you time and before you know it, you'll be
wondering why you were ever concerned about it. Since you're already an
established fixed wing pilot, I doubt you've have any significant problems.
About the biggest difference you'll see is that you have to fly the tail while
it's in a turn but you'll get used to that easily enough.
Good luck & Fly Safe,
Steve R.
Mike - 25 Sep 2003 00:02 GMT
<big snip>
The automatic reaction of a fixed wing flyer when something goes wrong is
usually to close the throttle... don't do it with a heli! Gently does it,
however bad the situation looks. In fact in some cases giving the throttle a
lot of welly can get you out of trouble.
The other thing is if you can hover confidently, then you don't need to make
gigantic steps all at once.... hover the model and move it sideways, still in
the hover. Gradually increase the hovering until you can move in a complete
circle round yourself, tail towards you.
Then move the model so the nose is pointing a little bit more towards the
direction the helicopter is moving in, still following the circle. Increase
the angle of the helicopter until the tail is following the nose all the way
round the circle. If ever the model gets out of hand, turn the tail back into
the 'tail-in' position that you are comfortable with.
Once you can do that in both directions, it is then a case of extending the
circle into a square, and developing it from there.
Beav - 24 Sep 2003 23:57 GMT
> I have a question. I've taught myself to hover tail in and right or left
> side and can do that competently and consistently. I feel like if I just go
> for it I can fly this thing but I'm not sure of the outcome, so to speak.
> How do i teach myself to transition into forward flight. I can't find
> anyone who can help me. I have been flying planes for a couple of years.
If you've been flying planks, getting into forward flight with a heli should
prove to be piss easy. The "main" thing to remember is when you want to
land, you stop first:-)
> My copter is a Raptor V1 and is setup with 0-9 degrees of main rotor pitch
> and I have the tail rotor mixed in to keep it straight as I increase
> throttle/collective. And it hovers at 1/2 stick.
Make the pitch curve a little "deeper" and program some negative into the
curve. Just a couple or three degrees will be plenty, but you DO need some
or the heli will want to "float" along instead of losing height at the end
of your first circuit.
The only thing to "worry" about is orientation. No wings sticking out each
side makes orientation a bit more of an issue than with planes, so don't
make your first circuit "plank sized". Keep the heli closer in than you
would with a plane and you should be fine.
FF is much the same as plane flying, so if you can fly a plank, you'll at
least be able to get the heli round a circuit and back on the ground without
too much trouble.
Good luck with the first one too!!

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James Ellis - 25 Sep 2003 01:37 GMT
Thank you all for the input! I shall try FF this weekend. Wish me luck.
Jim
> > I have a question. I've taught myself to hover tail in and right or left
> > side and can do that competently and consistently. I feel like if I just
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> Good luck with the first one too!!
Martin Round - 25 Sep 2003 10:31 GMT
Good luck. Just one more tip. To fly the circuit properly, you'll find you
need more 'rudder' in the turns than you would with a plank. If you use a
HH gyro, it might be a good idea to switch it to 'normal' mode for the first
few circuits - that way the heli weathercocks in FF and at least points the
way it's going. But even with a non-HH gyro, use 'rudder' to turn, as well
as banking and yanking.
> Thank you all for the input! I shall try FF this weekend. Wish me luck.
>
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> > Good luck with the first one too!!
AcKBaR[KAC] - 28 Sep 2003 12:42 GMT
>I have a question. I've taught myself to hover tail in and right or left
>side and can do that competently and consistently. I feel like if I just go
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>Jim
Go to "raptortechnique.com"
Beav - 28 Sep 2003 16:25 GMT
> >I have a question. I've taught myself to hover tail in and right or left
> >side and can do that competently and consistently. I feel like if I just go
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> >
> Go to "raptortechnique.com"
What are you, the voice of Raptortech.com???

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