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Sean U. - 29 Dec 2003 19:51 GMT
What is the best CA to use in the assembly of my new heli (blades and
other parts)? I have heard fast, slow, thick, and thin. I also want to
know so that I can have all the needed adhesives in my tool box. I
would like to know the name on the bottle like ZAP or other
manufacturers so I can find it easily in the local hobby shop.

Oh, also what Locktite should I be using Red or Blue?

Thanks
Beav - 30 Dec 2003 01:15 GMT
> What is the best CA to use in the assembly of my new heli (blades and
> other parts)? I have heard fast, slow, thick, and thin. I also want to
> know so that I can have all the needed adhesives in my tool box. I
> would like to know the name on the bottle like ZAP or other
> manufacturers so I can find it easily in the local hobby shop.

Use thick CA (I use Zap amongst others) for any parts that aren't touching
each other when you apply the glue. That'd be things like blade root
doublers and suchlike.

Use the thin Zap in areas to be bonded if it's already partially assembled.
The thin stuff  "wicks" into the joint, even if it's closed pretty tightly.

> Oh, also what Locktite should I be using Red or Blue?

Blue (242). Use Red Loctite ONLY if you can get a blowlamp on the parts when
it comes time to dis-assemble them.

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Sean U. - 30 Dec 2003 17:00 GMT
> > What is the best CA to use in the assembly of my new heli (blades and
> > other parts)? I have heard fast, slow, thick, and thin. I also want to
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> each other when you apply the glue. That'd be things like blade root
> doublers and suchlike.

I went to a local hobby shop (they do have a small Heli section) and
the guy there told me to use Plasti-ZAP instead of Slo-ZAP on the
blade roots will that be ok? I hope so because I glued them when I got
home.

> Use the thin Zap in areas to be bonded if it's already partially assembled.
> The thin stuff  "wicks" into the joint, even if it's closed pretty tightly.
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> Blue (242). Use Red Loctite ONLY if you can get a blowlamp on the parts when
> it comes time to dis-assemble them.

He also told me to use Red on the engine nut holding on the clutch and
use Blue everywhere else. Will Blue be better for the engine nut?

Thanks,

--

Sean U.
P.H. - 30 Dec 2003 19:24 GMT
The green lactate is the strongest, for things that you want to stay where
you would want em to stay
david - 30 Dec 2003 20:42 GMT
> The green lactate is the strongest, for things that you want to stay where
> you would want em to stay

LACTATE???? My, my,  you have a useful wife!

David
Markus Gysin - 30 Dec 2003 21:49 GMT
Listen to Beav....

If you use red loctite you never will get that clutch assy apart anymore,
btw, I never use any loctite on the
clutch assy at all.
best regards
Markus

> The green lactate is the strongest, for things that you want to stay where
> you would want em to stay
JB - 31 Dec 2003 01:42 GMT
In the manual for my Century heli,they recommend using thin CA for thread
locker.
Did this and have flown it for 4 seasons now with absolutely No problems.
Just a suggestion!
> Listen to Beav....
>
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> > The green lactate is the strongest, for things that you want to stay where
> > you would want em to stay
JB - 31 Dec 2003 01:42 GMT
In the manual for my Century heli,they recommend using thin CA for thread
locker.
Did this and have flown it for 4 seasons now with absolutely No problems.
Just a suggestion!
> Listen to Beav....
>
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> > The green lactate is the strongest, for things that you want to stay where
> > you would want em to stay
Beav - 31 Dec 2003 01:08 GMT
> The green lactate is the strongest, for things that you want to stay where
> you would want em to stay

Yeah, but that green lactate tastes absolutely f.cking gruesome!

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Mike - 30 Dec 2003 22:12 GMT
Just thought I would mention... sometimes a soldering iron can be used on heads
of bolts, or on nuts, when a blowtorch would be inappropriate.

Happy New Year
Beav - 31 Dec 2003 01:07 GMT
> > > What is the best CA to use in the assembly of my new heli (blades and
> > > other parts)? I have heard fast, slow, thick, and thin. I also want to
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> blade roots will that be ok? I hope so because I glued them when I got
> home.

I hope so too:-) Actually I've not heard of Plsti-Zap, but I can't imagine
it WOULDN'T work, given that the blade doublers are plastic:-)

> > Use the thin Zap in areas to be bonded if it's already partially assembled.
> > The thin stuff  "wicks" into the joint, even if it's closed pretty tightly.
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> He also told me to use Red on the engine nut holding on the clutch and
> use Blue everywhere else. Will Blue be better for the engine nut?

Red is normally known as "StudLock" and if you use it you WILL need a lot of
heat on the parts if you need to rip them apart at some time. It certainly
holds things, but there does come a time when "Holding" is distinct from
"hlding" if you get me drift. I only use blue (242) on crank nuts and they
don't come adrift.

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Boo - 30 Dec 2003 21:26 GMT
> What is the best CA to use

Mo' sticky = mo' bettah.

> I have heard fast, slow, thick, and thin.

Yes !

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colin wavell - 31 Dec 2003 00:17 GMT
Definitly ZAP! in the U

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colin wavell - 31 Dec 2003 00:21 GMT
I use thin for joints that can be pre- assembled with no gaps. I us
medium for everthing else. thick can be used to make fillets but it
best to use zip kicker to get it to go off. Keep it in the fridge as i
doesn't keep well at room temperatur

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Sean U. - 31 Dec 2003 19:47 GMT
> > What is the best CA to use
>
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>
> Yes !

Thanks For all the help and advice guys. NO Red on the engine nut!

Sean
 
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