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Zardos - 23 Apr 2004 18:04 GMT
My Slow charger's output is 0.86va and the Battery is 1400mah.

So how long do i charge it for ?

And how do i work this stuff out ?

Thanx in advance ;-)

Zardos
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Waleed Kadous - 24 Apr 2004 02:32 GMT
> My Slow charger's output is 0.86va and the Battery is 1400mah.
>
> So how long do i charge it for ?
>
> And how do i work this stuff out ?

You forgot what the voltage on your battery is, but roughly speaking these
are the calculations. I will assume that you have a 7.2V pack.

0.86va = 0.86W (which is really small by the way).

watt hours of your battery = 7.2V x 1.4A
                           = 10Wh

Assume inefficiency of about 40 per cent.

Therefore total watt hours required to charge battery = 10 x 140 per cent.
                                                      = 14Wh

Therefore time required to charge your battery = 14Wh/0.86W ~= 16 hours.

However, don't worry about overcharging it. With this little current, it's
safe to leave the battery charging permanently as trickle current.

Regards,

Waleed.
Zardos - 24 Apr 2004 21:50 GMT
>You forgot what the voltage on your battery is, but roughly speaking these
>are the calculations. I will assume that you have a 7.2V pack.

Sorry i forgot to say, but yeah you're right they're 7.2 pack

I have a bigger one to, which i've been trying to work out,
its a 1700mah, so......

>watt hours of your battery = 7.2V x 1.4A
>                            = 10Wh

                 7.2 x 1.7A
           
               =12Wh

>Assume inefficiency of about 40 per cent.
>Therefore total watt hours required to charge battery = 10 x 140 per cent.
>                                                       = 14Wh

not sure about this bit ?            12 x 140 per cent
                   
                    16Wh ?

>Therefore time required to charge your battery = 14Wh/0.86W ~= 16 hours.

                           16Wh/0.86W =  18 hours

Is that right ?

Thanks again :-)

Zardos
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Bennet Williams - 25 Apr 2004 13:15 GMT
If you want to remove the efficiency assumption in the equations
below, just measure the charging current with an ammeter. Then your
charging time will be:

(charging time) = (battery capacity) / (charging current)

e.g. (charging time) = 1400 mah / 100 ma = 14 hours.

BRW

>> My Slow charger's output is 0.86va and the Battery is 1400mah.
>>
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>Waleed.
Jonathan Hodgson - 26 Apr 2004 18:00 GMT
> If you want to remove the efficiency assumption in the equations
> below, just measure the charging current with an ammeter. Then your
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> e.g. (charging time) = 1400 mah / 100 ma = 14 hours.

... except that part of the inefficiency is within the cells, in the
way they accept current, and you can't measure that.

As already posted: with a 10+ hour charger, it's perfectly safe to
leave the cells on for quite a bit longer (50% more?) than the
calculated charge time.

Jonny
 
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