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Any tips on starting a cold engine?

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David Tjahjono - 25 Apr 2004 05:35 GMT
Any tips on starting a cold engine in a cold day (10 degrees Celsius)?
John & Heather Letendre - 25 Apr 2004 07:34 GMT
Warm it with a hair dryer or car heater.

> Any tips on starting a cold engine in a cold day (10 degrees Celsius)?
Johnboy - 25 Apr 2004 18:11 GMT
Add 5% propylene oxide if the temp is below 45-50 F.
Works fine. The oxide will evaporate quickly from
the jug at around 70 F .

> Warm it with a hair dryer or car heater.
>
> > Any tips on starting a cold engine in a cold day (10 degrees Celsius)?
walker - 26 Apr 2004 13:30 GMT
> Add 5% propylene oxide if the temp is below 45-50 F.
> Works fine. The oxide will evaporate quickly from
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> > > Any tips on starting a cold engine in a cold day (10 degrees
> Celsius)?

I hate to sound stupid, but what is "propylene oxide" and where would I find
it?
Johnboy - 26 Apr 2004 23:21 GMT
You are not stupid at all, you are just a modeler wishing
to know what the liquid is. "Prop" is an "ignitor" that is added
to Glo-fuel for enhanced starting abilities when the temp
is in the range I mentioned.  At these temps the fuel is slow to
vaporize so adding the Prop will allow the engine to start running.
It is similar to using "Ether" starting spray in your carburated auto
engine on cold winter mornings. It will also keep the plug lit and
steady the idle. I have a 1 gallon glass jug of it that's several
years old. Try calling corner Drug stores to see if they carry it.
Another source is photographic supply houses and chemical
houses. At this time I think it is not available in 100% pure form
in the USA, it's diluted 50-50 with methyl alcohol. It has a bad
side effect of causing aggravated engine detonation if you use
more than around 5%. I sometimes add a 1/2 ounce or so
directly to the models fuel tank, just before cranking rather than
adding it to the fuel jug. The stuff is $17-25 a gallon, so I don't
waste it if I think the day will warm up.

> > Add 5% propylene oxide if the temp is below 45-50 F.
> > Works fine. The oxide will evaporate quickly from
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> I hate to sound stupid, but what is "propylene oxide" and where would I find
> it?
frater mus - 25 Apr 2004 15:50 GMT
> Any tips on starting a cold engine in a cold day (10 degrees Celsius)?

Keep it inside until you want to start it.

I've heard of people putting cotton or aluminum hats on their cooling
heads to keep the head temps up in the normal range.  Otherwise hte
head won't expand and it will scrub away at the "pinch".

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LB - 26 Apr 2004 06:20 GMT
He said 1- deg CELSIUS guys. David, if you're talking about your TGS, it
should just start fine at that temp. If anything, it should possible start
even better. If you are having trouble, check what plug you are using, and
maybe try some others. Make sure your warmer battery is up to scratch. Make
sure you've got at least 10% nitro. It should start fine.

Mike

> Any tips on starting a cold engine in a cold day (10 degrees Celsius)?
David Tjahjono - 26 Apr 2004 10:22 GMT
Hi People!

Thank you for the response.

On cold weather starting, should the
fuel mixture RICH or LEAN ?

Regards,

David
> He said 1- deg CELSIUS guys. David, if you're talking about your TGS, it
> should just start fine at that temp. If anything, it should possible start
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>
> > Any tips on starting a cold engine in a cold day (10 degrees Celsius)?
frater mus - 26 Apr 2004 14:14 GMT
> Hi People!
>
> Thank you for the response.
>
> On cold weather starting, should the
> fuel mixture RICH or LEAN ?

Cold air is more dense, meaning you'll have to run the needle[s]
richer to keep he same air/fuel mixture.

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