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Cylinder head temps

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nospam@noway.com - 14 May 2005 15:23 GMT
Howdy,

Got a question about cylinder head temps......................what temp
range is considered healthy?  What temp is generally the point where you
kill the motor and let it cool down?

I have MPI temp gauges on both trucks (Megatech Gladiators) and am
constantly watching the temps.

Truck 1:

Runs 230-250 normal driving on a 75* day, 270-275 if I'm really on it for a
few minutes.  Will drop and hover around 200 if I let it sit and idle for a
few minutes  I have both needles set a little rich for extra lubrication and
am running Trinity 20/12.  Motor is a Megatech M16.

Truck 2:

Just got the new motor and have ran 1 tank thru it per break-in
instructions.  Instructions say do not exceed 230* during break-in, but does
not specify max temps post break-in.  Same kind of truck, Megatech Q1.6
motor, same fuel.

I have heard in the past that 300* is generally the point where you consider
the motor to be "overheated" and kill it.  Is this correct?

Doc
kenji - 14 May 2005 15:36 GMT
> I have heard in the past that 300* is generally the point where you consider
> the motor to be "overheated" and kill it.  Is this correct?

I'm learning about engines and have four different vehicles with four
different engines. Each manufacturer gives a different answer.

Almost all of them say an infrequent overheating isn't problematic.
nospam@noway.com - 14 May 2005 15:42 GMT
>> I have heard in the past that 300* is generally the point where you
>> consider
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>
> Almost all of them say an infrequent overheating isn't problematic.

The question still stands, what is generally considered "overheated?"  250?
275?  300?  350?

Doc
Chris Dugan - 14 May 2005 16:44 GMT
> The question still stands, what is generally considered "overheated?"  250?
> 275?  300?  350?
>
> Doc

It depends entireley on the make of engine, but rule of thumb is see how
fast spit or a drop of water boils off the engine. If it spits / pops and
boils away within a second or three then it's too hot, it should boil away
over about 10 to 15 seconds.

The final temperature of a properly tuned engine varies depending on many
variables such as construction, materials, air temperature, humidity, size
of heatsink, ammount of air flowing over the head etc. The .25 1/8 engines
that I tune regularly  run anywhere between 95 to 110 celcius (203-230F)
depending on the make, track length and tightness and weather etc. etc.
During run-in we tend to keep them rich and smokey and just check the temp
is below about 80 celcius (180F) until about 7 or more tanks have been
through the engine.

I find the best way to get an engine tuned is to do it by eye and ear, start
rich so that the engine sputters then lean it out so it pulls cleanly
without being too lean (you can tell that point 'cos the engine will almost
stall on acceleration) all the time keeping an eye on the smoke trail. If
the engine pulls cleanly from a standstill even after a long full speed run
then it's rich enough.

Don't do this by doing long full speed runs then stopping dead and returning
in the opposite direction that's one of the best ways to overheat an engine,
you'll probably end up over richening the engine tuning it that way so that
you have trouble idling and starting when cold.

Chris
 
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