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Model Forum / Radio Controlled / Land Models / September 2005What streetcar to get ?
Hi all I want to go out and get a 1/10 scale rc car, a streetcar and i thought of a hpi or the likes nitro car but now i've driven my friends car i'm dissapointed. The car itself is superb but you need roads as smooth as a pool table cloth so in practice, my neighbourhood is not really fitting. I remember seeing one, nitro or electric i forgot, wich had the subaru impreza body and was a street/ off road car, it could perform well on regular asphalt and sand, not dunes i pressume but enough to have fun on small sandroads. Does anyone know this car or similar? I want the car to be stock looking while being able to handle regular roads. Nitro would be my first choice but if i only take the car out every few sundays would i be better off with an electric? grtz Sax > Hi all > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > grtz > Sax Howdy Sax, The car you're referring to is made by Kyosho; it is a model of an Impreza rally car and is a nitro. "Official" model name is Kyosho 1/8 Subaru Impreza MP-7.5/GS .21r Kit. It would do better than the touring cars, but not much. It would not run on sand. Just asphault and smooth, packed dirt. A good option to consider would be a buggy or a stadium truck, both of which have higher ground clearance and better suspension for handling rougher roads. A good buggy would be the Ofna Ravager, a good stadium truck would be the HPI MT2 or MT2 18ss kit. Road tires can be purchased for stadium trucks making it a bonafide street racer with truck suspension, able to handle rough roads and road debris. Doc > Howdy Sax, > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Doc Hi Doc, Thanks for your response. I ckecked and it's not the Kyosho (wich is very nice btw), the one I saw was the HPI 1/10 rally sprint, an electric. I have a 1/10 scale body I want to use and have the car look like my daily driver, so no big off road cars, altough I'll get one soon enough just for play : ) It's in the European HPI catalog so I'm not sure if the same model is available in the US. I saw the HPI dvd and they show that car and it's exactly what I need, but I think I'm more interested in nitro. Any nitros with off road capabilities and touring car looks? If not, what specs canI expect from an electro car? Looks like it has a 540? engine ? I'll have to google on that. The HPI # ' of the car are for the Impreza #371, for one with a Peugeot 206 body # 372 Sax >> Howdy Sax, >> [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > > Sax Sax, Check out the HPI RS4 3 Evo, HPI P/N 10034 with Impreza body. Same looks as the electric but with a .15 nitro motor. You could also look at the HPI RS4 3 18SS kits (Lambo or Ford GT body) which come with a bigger motor but require assembley. You could then slap an Impreza body on it to get the tamer look you're going for. Generally speaking, any 1/10 scale touring body will fit any 1/10 scale touring chassis with a lil' work. I really enjoy HPI's products and support. If HPI Europe is anything like HPI America you won't be dissappointed. You're not going to find a touring car with off-road capabilities. Electric vs. nitro is a hot topic of debate, so take my opinion as a nitro guy for what it's worth. Electric cars are generally slower off the line, have lower top-end speeds, have less runtime and require more start-up cost (decent charger + batteries) than nitros. On the other hand they are quiet, clean and require no mechanical skills to run, wheras nitros are loud, messy and require constant wrenching. The HPI 1/10 scale electrics might push 30-35mph out of the box, whereas the 1/10 nitros would easily run above the 50 mph mark out of the box. Doc >>> Howdy Sax, >>> [quoted text clipped - 45 lines] > > You're not going to find a touring car with off-road capabilities. Thunder Tiger EB4 Rally Game - basically the buggy, with a rally shell - never seen one run but it might be worth a look?  SignatureDan Good Luck on finding that TTR Rally Game...it's hard enough to find parts now for the first and S2 versions of the EB-4 buggy alone.. They offered at one time a rally conversion kit for the EB-4 so you could swap from buggy to the rally game street... May be easier to locate in the UK. Also, no two speed for it that I have ever seen outside of a custom install. If going a street/buggy route, I would suggest simply finding an offroad buggy that parts are easy to get for and simply lowering the suspension to outermost points and stiffening the springs and put whatever body (modified body posts) and tires you want on it. I would suggest an Ofna Ravager with optional 2spd for a street/offroad buggy...excellent fast bang for buck buggy! It will be my next purchase, unless the HPI Hellfire is as cheap and as tough...(still waiting on reviews)........ > Thunder Tiger EB4 Rally Game - basically the buggy, with a rally shell - > never seen one run but it might be worth a look? > Good Luck on finding that TTR Rally Game...it's hard enough to find parts > now for the first and S2 versions of the EB-4 buggy alone.. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > It will be my next purchase, unless the HPI Hellfire is as cheap and as > tough...(still waiting on reviews)........ Hellfire is listed at $599.99 on Tower's Website (order pending). OUCH! Doc >> Good Luck on finding that TTR Rally Game...it's hard enough to find parts >> now for the first and S2 versions of the EB-4 buggy alone.. [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Hellfire is listed at $599.99 on Tower's Website (order pending). OUCH! That means its probably gonna be £499 GBP. Daaaamn. SignatureDan >>> Good Luck on finding that TTR Rally Game...it's hard enough to find >>> parts [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > Daaaamn. No kidding. I was hoping it was gunna be around $499-$529 or so. $599 is a bit steep. Aside from the new motor, there's nothing unique enough about it to make it worth that kind of money. Doc On Fri, 9 Sep 2005 17:13:21 -0400, "Doc" wrote: > Electric vs. nitro is a hot topic of debate, so take my opinion as a nitro > guy for what it's worth. Electric cars are generally slower off the line, > have lower top-end speeds, have less runtime and require more start-up cost I'd say that electrics are usually quicker accelerating, both off the line and out of corners. Agree with the rest. On a small track, an electric car will be quicker than a nitro. Bashing in rough ground, the electric will tend to overheat, and runtime will suffer horribly. HTH! Jonny > On Fri, 9 Sep 2005 17:13:21 -0400, "Doc" wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > HTH! > Jonny I'd agree Electric motors are known for their high torque which means faster jumps off the line, they are usually slower on their top speed but with brushless motors and Lithium Polymer batteries that is starting to change. I've seen quite a few nitros come in behind an electric. Most Nitros I know of never even begin to reach their top speed on a track. Like Jonny said, Offroad bashing is the only place electric needs to improve IMHO. A couple of other reasons why electrics can be faster in some situations: . Acceleration can be better not only by the fact that the motors have at least some torque from zero revs (as mentioned elsewhere in the thread), but also because there is no clutch to spin up and engage. . With 1/10th tourers, lap speeds (not top speed) can sometimes go to electrics because the of the higher COG of nitros which affects their handling. MIKE >> On Fri, 9 Sep 2005 17:13:21 -0400, "Doc" wrote: >> [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > Like Jonny said, Offroad bashing is the only place electric needs to > improve IMHO. On 9/13/05 1:32 AM, in article 432663e6$1@dnews.tpgi.com.au, "mike netspace.net.au>" <transam@<REMOVETHISINCLUDINGBRACKETS> wrote: > A couple of other reasons why electrics can be faster in some situations: > [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] >> Like Jonny said, Offroad bashing is the only place electric needs to >> improve IMHO. Correct me if I am wrong about the following...... One thing all of you seem to be forgetting is gearing. An electric can have a top speed that is faster than Nitro however it will do so at the cost of acceleration. The opposite is also true. Nitro can be very quick off the start if you gear it very low and rev the engine just to the point before takeoff(special Clutch required). My 16.8 volt TA02 really flies, both takeoff and top speed. TA02 > Correct me if I am wrong about the following...... > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > TA02 You're correct, but I think we were comparing at them assuming EVERYTHING else was the same (including gear ratio) aside from the powerplant. At least that is how I compared them in my post. Doc Hey, nitro is WAAAAAAAY more fun! Love that 2-speed tranny in my nitro TC3. Roger > > Correct me if I am wrong about the following...... > > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Doc |
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