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Model Forum / Radio Controlled / Land Models / October 2005Savage tuning part 4 - I did a Doc! :)
Hi all, well I took the Savage out again last night and gave it a run, its running much better allthough the 2nd and 3rd gear adjustments I did Sunday night weren't enough so need to strip the gearbox again. Near the end of the tank I was doing some speed runs trying to get it into 3rd and the bastard big bit of steel that claimed my E-maxx a few weeks back struck again and bit my Savage! This bit of steel is big, heavy (80 odd kg) and is in a [ shape on its side approx 150mm high and 15mm thick. At first I though sh.t, thats gotta hurt but when the Savage drove away I was a bit relieved, allthough a little worried why it was pulling to the left. Check the a-arms, crap they are fine (the right hand side however had a mark where it hit the real rough edge of the steel), steering is fine too, lift the truck up and look underneath? http://photobucket.com/albums/a296/D-r-e/Savage/Busted/?action=view¤t=DSC0 2937.jpg http://photobucket.com/albums/a296/D-r-e/Savage/Busted/?action=view¤t=DSC0 2938.jpg Thankfully the only damage I did was the 2 chassis plates and on the positive side, when I replace them, I'll have a perfect chance to adjust my shift points :) Cheers Dre > Hi all, well I took the Savage out again last night and gave it a run, its > running much better allthough the 2nd and 3rd gear adjustments I did [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > > Cheers Dre Ouch :) Took mine out over the weekend - forgot to take a photo of the fuel screw tho - sorry! I had to crank her out a bit tho, presumably because it was much warmer last time i ran? Anyway - i can indeed confirm that the Schumacher Menace is *insanely* fast :-) Mine ran a treat, all tho Menace vs Savage flat out resulted in a buckled Proline Velocity 6 40 series for my Sav, and a broken tank for the Menace...  SignatureDan -- Dan > > Hi all, well I took the Savage out again last night and gave it a run, its <snip> > > my > > shift points :) [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Mine ran a treat, all tho Menace vs Savage flat out resulted in a buckled > Proline Velocity 6 40 series for my Sav, and a broken tank for the Menace... Thats cool, I'm getting closer and closer to the perfect mix every time I run it so no probs.. So did you 2 have a prang or just a little disagreement? sounds like it you had fun :) Cheers Dre >> > Hi all, well I took the Savage out again last night and gave it a run, > its [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > you > had fun :) I set off, as he was flying down the hill, then bogged badly as it had been idling for ages, right in his line (a flat out Menace needs some braking room...), he stamped on, i nailed it, stalled, he span 360 and crunch :) We were well impressed with the strength of the so called weak menace, as it was still FLYING when it hit me, and all the arms etc survived. SignatureDan > >> > Hi all, well I took the Savage out again last night and gave it a run, > > its [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > were well impressed with the strength of the so called weak menace, as it > was still FLYING when it hit me, and all the arms etc survived. LOL, that sounds like one of those classic crashes :) Bloody savage needs a runway as braking room. That and I need a better radio, that stock HPI radio sucks as you cant adjust how far the throttle/brake servo moves so even though I've adjusted it as much as I can, the breaks are still way to strong and half the time you put the brakes on too much and endo everywhere! Bet your Savage looks a bit funny with 1 cheesecutter wheel and 3 beef cakes! Cheers Dre >That and I need a better > radio, that stock HPI radio sucks as you cant adjust how far the > throttle/brake servo moves so even though I've adjusted it as much as I > can, > the breaks are still way to strong and half the time you put the brakes on > too much and endo everywhere! Just back off the adjuster nut on the end of the brake linkage so when brake is at full application it isn't grabbing so hard. I dunno why they make a dual brake kit and other hopped-up brake kits for the Savage................I can flip her ass-over-teakettle any time I want with the brakes snugged up nicely. I leave em' backed off a ways to reduce self-inflicted flips................ Doc > >That and I need a better > > radio, that stock HPI radio sucks as you cant adjust how far the [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Doc yeah I have an SS 4.6 so have the duel brakes, I've allready adjusted the nut heaps, I just wish I had a better radio where I could adjust the acceleration and end points, that way I can have the brakes "come on" slower and have something between no brakes and full brakes :) Cheers Dre >> >That and I need a better >> > radio, that stock HPI radio sucks as you cant adjust how far the [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > Cheers Dre I bought an Airtronics MX3 FM 75Mhz system on E-Bay for $89 US and LOVE it. It has end point adjustments, trim, subtrim and ARC, which allows you to do just as you want with the throttle and brakes, where say between neutral trigger and 3/4 reverse trigger is only 50% brake, then the last 1/4 of trigger travel is the other 50% of brakes. This is just an example, there are three or four ARC curves to suit your fancy; they can be applied to steering as well. Multi-model memory (10 IIRC), cool digital display and insane range and signal clarity. I've had it 1/4 mile away (buddy was walking along side it in case it got a whiff of freedom and made a run for it) and zero interference. Doc > >> >That and I need a better > >> > radio, that stock HPI radio sucks as you cant adjust how far the [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > > Doc Nice! That radio sounds perfect! I was thinking of getting a JR Racing - JR-XS3 as all the rest of my radio gear is KO-PROPO. Same deal as the Airtronics, except slightly more expensive ($100USD). I now have another radio on the radar :) Thanks for the headsup! Cheers Dre > Nice! That radio sounds perfect! I was thinking of getting a JR Racing - > JR-XS3 as all the rest of my radio gear is KO-PROPO. Same deal as the [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Cheers Dre My only experience with JR electronics has been a bad one. Stock Xr2i that came with my Mayhem SUCKED! Had a range of about 50 yards and was glitchy as hell. The stock throttle servo (Z270 IIRC) also sucked and died after a few uses. I've heard good things about JR, but I'll never buy one. I stick to Airtronics and Futaba tx and rx, and use Hobbico and Hitec servos in all my stuff. Doc > > Nice! That radio sounds perfect! I was thinking of getting a JR Racing - > > JR-XS3 as all the rest of my radio gear is KO-PROPO. Same deal as the [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Doc hmmmm, I've never tried em, I've never tried Airtronics either, but since you have had bad results and good results respectively *and* the fact that the Airtronics is cheaper, I think I might sway over to the Airtronics. One question though, how big is the receiver?? The stock HPI one is huge and only just fits into the radio box (and getting the lid on is a skill on its own :) so if its smaller I'm sold! Cheers Dre BTW, chassis plates arrived at home right on time! Perfect timing as its a public holiday tomorrow so one guess what I'll be doing! > hmmmm, I've never tried em, I've never tried Airtronics either, but since > you have had bad results and good results respectively *and* the fact that [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > a > public holiday tomorrow so one guess what I'll be doing! The rx is TINY. I mean TINY! Did I forget to mention it's tiny? About 1/2 the size of the stock HPI rx. This is the second airtronics radio I've had and both have been flawless. It's really easy on batteries too which isn't a huge selling point but definitely nice. Doc > > hmmmm, I've never tried em, I've never tried Airtronics either, but since > > you have had bad results and good results respectively *and* the fact that [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > Doc SOLD! I want one *right* now now :) Well chassis plates went on the Savage yesterday, and while I had the gearbox out I turned 1st gear adjustment screw in 180deg and 3rd gear out 90, see how it goes on the w/e. One of the old plates wasn't very bad at all so they went in between to bits of heavy steel and bang, all straight again :) Re the Revo wheels, with stock tires they have the same OD (5.75") to the stock T/E-maxx ones, but the Revo tires are a bit wider, no problem. Problem is the Revo wheels have a massive inner offset, meaning the wheels sit much closer to the body (about an inch), so I thought I could probably take this out by putting the wide arms on. That would give me the same track as before, but it would move the axles/hubs further out so IMHO it would improve the handling of the truck. Thoughts? Cheers Dre > SOLD! I want one *right* now now :) > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Cheers Dre Why not just return the Revo wheels, buy some wheels specifically made for the T-Maxx or Savage and grab a set of proline tires for em'? Doc > > SOLD! I want one *right* now now :) > > [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > Doc Well that was one of the original options (except I'd have to sell them as I've opened them and I got them online) but the main reason I got them was cause I like the style. I wanted something a bit better looking than the stock T/E-maxx ones. Dont like the stock Savage ones much and the others (bar the Q6's) are a bit funny looking (imo). Unless before then I find some t-maxx/savage wheels that I like the look of :) The more I think about it though, the more I'm swaying towards the wide conversion. More parts available and its easier to find bits for wide's... Plus I still think it'll make it handle better, wider stance etc.. Also, the mounts where the bottom of the shocks are screwed to the arm are much much better on the wide arms, on the old arms you strip the plastic after 3 or 4 screw-out-screw-in's... Plus I'd have an E-maxx that people think hang on, isn't that a Revo, hang on, thats electric, hang on whats going on!?? :) Cheers Dre >> >> > Hi all, well I took the Savage out again last night and gave it a > run, [quoted text clipped - 50 lines] > > Cheers Dre Heh, nah, i've just left the buckled wheel on till it lunches its hex :) SignatureDan > >> >> > Hi all, well I took the Savage out again last night and gave it a > > run, [quoted text clipped - 53 lines] > > Heh, nah, i've just left the buckled wheel on till it lunches its hex :) ROFL, that sounds like the sort of stuff I do :) Cheers Dre >> Heh, nah, i've just left the buckled wheel on till it lunches its hex :) >> > ROFL, that sounds like the sort of stuff I do :) > > Cheers Dre Buckled wheel doesn't really do any harm, probably messes with the handling a bit but the thing weighs and tonne and handles like it anyway :) SignatureDan > >> Heh, nah, i've just left the buckled wheel on till it lunches its hex :) [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Buckled wheel doesn't really do any harm, probably messes with the handling > a bit but the thing weighs and tonne and handles like it anyway :) yeah exactly, might shake a bit at speed but that shouldn't worry the mighty Savage :) Funny, when I drove it last, I was driving up and down a gravel driveway with potholes you drive your real car *around* cause they are that deep (not sharp though). Savage? full speed straight over em, no worries, doesn't even know they are there :) I guess you cant easily go back to the stock *cheesecutters* eh? hehehe Cheers Dre >> >> Heh, nah, i've just left the buckled wheel on till it lunches its hex > :) [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > Cheers Dre Actually the 40 series are starting to annoy me - i want some unstrippable wheels - and a new engine - thinking about a Collari .32 :-) Heard stock T-Maxx wheels are pretty tough, so might get a set of them off the bay on the cheap and stick my stock Savvy tyres on, see how well they last - then if they die, i'm gonna get some plastic Maxx hexes and glue 'em into some stock wheels and see if that lasts. SignatureDan > >> >> Heh, nah, i've just left the buckled wheel on till it lunches its hex > > :) [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > last - then if they die, i'm gonna get some plastic Maxx hexes and glue 'em > into some stock wheels and see if that lasts. Are you having trouble stripping hexes are you?!?? Damn, and I thought the metal ones in the Savage were fine! Or is it cause you have the bigger wheels??? BTW, dont ever get plastic hexes, when you keep doing up the wheel nut tight (I like my wheel nuts tight) they slowly push the pin into the plastic hub and eventually it works its way right down and the hub starts to rub against the bearing and you have big friction. Metal ones dont allow this... First thing I do when I see plastic hubs is change em to metal ones :) Maybe your stripping the hexes cause your wheel nuts are coming loose?? Cheers Dre >> >> >> Heh, nah, i've just left the buckled wheel on till it lunches its > hex [quoted text clipped - 53 lines] > > Cheers Dre Nah its the hexes in the wheels i strip! Only ever the back ones - presumably because they take more force - oddly tho a diff has never gone in the traditional way... SignatureDan > >> >> >> Heh, nah, i've just left the buckled wheel on till it lunches its > > hex [quoted text clipped - 57 lines] > presumably because they take more force - oddly tho a diff has never gone in > the traditional way... Really?!? I've never ever stripped a wheel out (or a hex for that matter). How tight do you tighten your wheels nuts?? (I tighten mine bloody tight with a big screwdriver handle (with hex bit for the wheel nuts) so I can get a shitload of torque on there). My Savage wheels around the hexs still look like new.. Cheers Dre >> >> >> >> Heh, nah, i've just left the buckled wheel on till it lunches >> >> >> >> its [quoted text clipped - 75 lines] > > Cheers Dre I tighten them damn tight :-) Although now i think about, the only ones i've ever done have been Proline ones... Hmmmmm...... SignatureDan > Hi all, well I took the Savage out again last night and gave it a run, its > running much better allthough the 2nd and 3rd gear adjustments I did [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > > Cheers Dre Nnnniiiiiicccceeeee! For all those Savage-Central Members, here's a link to my "Dre". http://www.savage-central.com/modules.php?name=gallery2&g2_view=core:ShowItem&g2 _itemId=18121 You can probably pound those out with a couple pieces of wood and a hammer bud! Not as mangled as mine were, which actually pounded out pretty good all things considered. Only reason I ditched em' was I got a set cheap at my LHS. Really enjoying reading about the legacy of your Sav..............keep up the posts! Doc > > Hi all, well I took the Savage out again last night and gave it a run, its <snip> > > my > > shift points :) [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Nnnniiiiiicccceeeee! For all those Savage-Central Members, here's a link to > my "Dre". http://www.savage-central.com/modules.php?name=gallery2&g2_view=core:ShowItem&g2 _itemId=18121 > You can probably pound those out with a couple pieces of wood and a hammer > bud! Not as mangled as mine were, which actually pounded out pretty good [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Doc LOL, looking at your smash again, makes mine look like a scratch :) Funny thing is the a-arm on that side has these 2 marks on it and it look o-so-cool, battle scars :) Yeah I've allready started to strip the truck and I'm planning to smack them back into shape. I'll then use them as spares as replacements are allready on the way. I am soooo lucky as only 1 screw pulled out of the gearbox and it didn't do very much damage to the thread at all, screws back in there nice and tight. Whoa, shucks! I didn't think many people read my posts (especially to the end), but hey, you just made em all worthwhile! If only we weren't half way around the globe, I'd love to have a run of the Savages over a few beers and a yarn or 10 :) Cheers Dre >> > Hi all, well I took the Savage out again last night and gave it a run, > its [quoted text clipped - 44 lines] > > Cheers Dre Do we think in such a situation my HCR Titanium would be an advantage or a disadvantage? I don't think it would bend is all... SignatureDan >>> > Hi all, well I took the Savage out again last night and gave it a run, >> its [quoted text clipped - 51 lines] > Do we think in such a situation my HCR Titanium would be an advantage or a > disadvantage? I don't think it would bend is all... They probably wouldn't bend, but something else would! So, no disadvantage or advantage in my opinion, just something else would bear the brunt. I stuck with stock TVP's as I'd rather torch them as they're pretty cheap to replace as opposed to exploding the entire front end and maybe even the tranny. Doc > >>> > Hi all, well I took the Savage out again last night and gave it a run, > >> its [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > >> to > >>> my "Dre". http://www.savage-central.com/modules.php?name=gallery2&g2_view=core:ShowItem&g2 _itemId=18121 > >>> You can probably pound those out with a couple pieces of wood and a > >>> hammer [quoted text clipped - 44 lines] > > Doc yeah I'm kinda the same, rather the chassis bend then all the plastic :) Cheers Dre > >> > Hi all, well I took the Savage out again last night and gave it a run, > > its [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > to > >> my "Dre". http://www.savage-central.com/modules.php?name=gallery2&g2_view=core:ShowItem&g2 _itemId=18121 > >> You can probably pound those out with a couple pieces of wood and a > >> hammer [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > Do we think in such a situation my HCR Titanium would be an advantage or a > disadvantage? I don't think it would bend is all... Probably both :) In my case the a-arm would have been toasted and whenever I break an a-arm, I normally snap the axle and bend the shocks around the mount. So in this case, I'm bloody stoked the a-arm survived and the chassis took it :) On the other hand, I didn't like how the radio box just bent in shape so easily as I have 2 very nice servos in there that could have been crushed (luckily the mounting points for them all survived). |
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