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DanTXD - 21 Oct 2005 00:34 GMT

Anyone had any experience of them? Are they any good?

Thinking about sticking the .32 in the Sav - just for a laugh :)

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Dre - 21 Oct 2005 01:06 GMT

> Anyone had any experience of them? Are they any good?
>
> Thinking about sticking the .32 in the Sav - just for a laugh :)

Only seen them on ebay and the like. Thought about the same thing, but then
I had allready gotten the .28 so figured, hmmm, thats big enough :)

But then you can have an engine big enough really can you, LOL!

Cheers Dre

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nospam@noway.com - 21 Oct 2005 03:16 GMT

> Anyone had any experience of them? Are they any good?
>
> Thinking about sticking the .32 in the Sav - just for a laugh :)

I have real mixed thoughts on the big-big blocks. As a gearhead, bigger is
always better as far as motors are concerned, beit 1:1 scale stuff or 1:8
scale stuff.

However, with our little trucks, I think there is such thing as too much.
For example, with my .25 powered Savage, it already flips itself clear on
it's back when I indescreetly mash the throttle, and already tops out faster
than anything I've ever run with (except for MY Mayhem!). At full speed it
is stable...........too stable in fact in that it will NOT turn and doesn't
stop very well without endo-ing and going for a gymnastics floor routine.
With more horsies and torque under the proverbial hood, I'd never be able to
keep it on all fours, and it would be even less manouverable with the
additional weight and speed.

<that was the angel on my right shoulder>
<the deviant on my left shoulder sayz.......>

Truckzilla Twin, (2) .26 Sportwerks 8-port motors, wheelie bar to keep it on
at least two wheels and if anyone is stoopid enough to get in it's way at
full tilt they deserve to get creamed cause I can't turn it or stop it
anyways!

To get back to the topic, I have no experience with them personally or thru
any of my buds. Sorry. What's the word on Savage-Central.com?

Doc

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mike smith@yahoo.com - 21 Oct 2005 04:29 GMT

>Truckzilla Twin, (2) .26 Sportwerks 8-port motors, wheelie bar to keep it on
>at least two wheels and if anyone is stoopid enough to get in it's way at
>full tilt they deserve to get creamed cause I can't turn it or stop it
>anyways!
>
>Doc

Now your talking my way!

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Dre - 21 Oct 2005 04:48 GMT

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> Truckzilla Twin, (2) .26 Sportwerks 8-port motors, wheelie bar to keep it on
> at least two wheels and if anyone is stoopid enough to get in it's way at
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> Doc

I allways laugh when I need to stop suddenly in the Savage (the brakes are
tooooo good), the first reaction is to nail the breaks, and I allways do,
the truck allways flips, then cartwheels over and over waaaaaay longer than
it would have had I braked properly, LOL :)

Speaking of, I've been meaning to make up a wheelie bar for both trucks
(e-maxx and sav), I was planning to use the set of wheels I've got from a
Tamiya Mini (smaller than standard 1:10 sedan tires), 2 wheels for each
truck. I've had a look around and all the companies that make them all make
them with really bloody small wheels on the ends of the bars. These are
MONSTER trucks and cant have piddly little wheels on them, they need
something TOUGH.

What I need is some sort of axle/hub arrangement that accepts standard 1:10
scale hex hubs, hmm, hang on a minute, bit of tubing, drill a couple of
holes in each end, done. No worries, I think I have a mission for the w/e

Cheers Dre

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Richard - 21 Oct 2005 09:27 GMT

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> Speaking of, I've been meaning to make up a wheelie bar for both trucks
> (e-maxx and sav), I was planning to use the set of wheels I've got from a
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>
> Cheers Dre

What I have made up for our Emaxx was a set of plane landing wheels of a
size that looked good to me and replaced the rear bumper with some straight
5mm alloy rod I had sitting around from my clod project and just drilled a
hole in the ends for the wheels to attatch and then mounted the two rods as
two seperate bumpers bars. This doesnt stick out like those after market
wheelie bars and still permits bad landings. I guess you could also do this
with the stock bumper if you didnt care about to butchering it. The down
side is with the new Proline 40 series wheels on it the bar doesnt stick out
enough to be usefull and wheelies even worse.

Also have the rear diff spooled and it hooks up pretty good on the slippery
surfaces, definately adds a new element to the Emaxx. We would like to try
one at each end with the 40's and see how it compares to the Clod.

Cheers
Richard

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Dre - 28 Oct 2005 04:26 GMT

> ---SNIP---
> > Speaking of, I've been meaning to make up a wheelie bar for both trucks
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> Cheers
> Richard

yeah ever since I put a spool in the back of my E-maxx I've thougth about
putting one in the front, but ideally I'd like to find a manufacturer that
makes torsen diffs for both T/E-maxxes and Savages as now I want a more
locked driveline in my Savage (diff locks in that would be INSANE!).

Originally I thought I might loose some steering, but you dont, you gain it,
you steer with the throttle :)

Re the wheelie bar, thats not a bad idea at all to use plane landing wheels,
didn't think of that. I think I'll stick with the mini wheels I have for
the only reason that they look better (5 spoke and the tires have treads,
how cool! :) I have metal skid plates on the maxx so I was planning to
simply drill a few holes in it and mount the bar to that via a few bolts.

Cheers Dre

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Richard - 28 Oct 2005 06:06 GMT

> yeah ever since I put a spool in the back of my E-maxx I've thougth about
> putting one in the front, but ideally I'd like to find a manufacturer that
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> Cheers Dre

I thought having the front and rear diffs locked would increase the turning
circle, understeer and/or torque steer more because the transmission gives
50/50 drive to the front and rear axles. This is the problems we have with
our 1:1 scale 4x4's and not so much a problem with my Clod because of the 4
wheel steering and having seperate motors driving the front and rear diffs.

A product that I would like to try is the Bad Horsie Diff Lock grease:
http://www.badhorsie.com/products/diff-lock-grease.html

Its cheap enough to try and it will work in any geared type diff, but as the
faq sheet says keep it away from your ring and pinion gears.

Cheers
Richard

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Dre - 31 Oct 2005 02:36 GMT

> > yeah ever since I put a spool in the back of my E-maxx I've thougth about
> > putting one in the front, but ideally I'd like to find a manufacturer that
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> Cheers
> Richard

Nice! I'll check that grease out, might be good until I can find a proper
LSD for it.

Re the turning circle, the transmission in an E-maxx has a 50/50 torque
split anyway as it has a solid center axle. Yes you do increase the turning
circle with locked front and rear diffs if your on a hard non slippery
surface *if* the wheels dont break traction. If however you are on gravel
for example and you boot it while steering in one direction you are
guarenteed a much much smaller turning circle :)

Cheers Dre

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DanTXD - 21 Oct 2005 13:00 GMT

>> Anyone had any experience of them? Are they any good?
>>
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> To get back to the topic, I have no experience with them personally or
> thru any of my buds. Sorry. What's the word on Savage-Central.com?

I keep meaning to have a look, but trawling posts on there takes ages :-)

I'm going with the 'bigger is better' theory - although now i'm having a
really daft idea now that twin's have been mentioned...

A guy on MaxBashing has a twin 4.6 - a twin Collari .32 would surely be the
daddy....

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nospam@noway.com - 21 Oct 2005 22:49 GMT

>> To get back to the topic, I have no experience with them personally or
>> thru any of my buds. Sorry. What's the word on Savage-Central.com?
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> A guy on MaxBashing has a twin 4.6 - a twin Collari .32 would surely be
> the daddy....

I am SERIOUSLY considering grabbing a Savage Roller and making a twin out of
it over the winter. I absolutely adore the Sportwerks .26 (essentially a
Mach 26, same motor as in the LST) and am probably gunna use them for the
project.

Doc

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