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Simon - 02 Jan 2006 00:50 GMT
http://www.nitrotek.co.uk/products.php?cat=14

Problem is I need a new engine. Loking at these pictures, the length of the
crankshaft looks no where near long enough to acoomodate the clutch and fly
wheel that is on mine. AM I being a real noob here? Or do I need to look
else where?
DanTXD - 02 Jan 2006 01:09 GMT
> http://www.nitrotek.co.uk/products.php?cat=14
>
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> wheel that is on mine. AM I being a real noob here? Or do I need to look
> else where?

I would steer clear of those engines to be fair- my experience of Team
Infinity engines is that they're a bit naff...  What vehicle is this to go
into?  Just looking for a .18?

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Simon - 02 Jan 2006 01:14 GMT
> > http://www.nitrotek.co.uk/products.php?cat=14
> >
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> Infinity engines is that they're a bit naff...  What vehicle is this to go
> into?  Just looking for a .18?

It's to go in a tamyia tdx/tgx (one of those 2). I'm after nothing special
really. Would prefer some of this rotostart business though, god only knows
how much it p***ed me off repeatedly tugging that pull cord. As I said I've
sourced a few engines and they all seem to have seemingly short crankshafts
compared to mine.
nospam@noway.com - 02 Jan 2006 18:18 GMT
>> > http://www.nitrotek.co.uk/products.php?cat=14
>> >
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> crankshafts
> compared to mine.

Ok, here goes my $0.02.  Team Infinity engines are garbage!  I would advise
against them strongly d/t first hand experience with one.  My bud bought an
Acme Conquistador last year and it came with the TE .15 in it.  Bugger to
start (pullstart) and overheated like it was going out of style.  Power was
decent but not great.  Couldn't max out RPM's as we had to leave the HSN
super rich to keep it from melting.

Now, the crankshaft on your existing engine might be an SG (pilot) shaft,
which is much longer than the shaft on those TE engines.  The SG shaft is
threaded at the bottom and smooth the rest of the way up.  So, to find you a
suitable engine we need some answers first:

1.  Side or rear exhaust?
2.  Slide or rotary carb?
3.  Is the shaft a) short threaded, b) long threaded or c) SG; pics of each
below:

SG-->http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXHLV6&P=0
Short Threaded-->http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXGGP8&P=0
Long threaded-->http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXGGP7&P=0

4.  Is there room behind the engine to insert a shaft to start the motor
with rotostart?  The rotostart shaft would enter the backplate at the top
left corner.

Here's a rotostart backplate:

http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXERG0&P=ML

I went thru the same hassles when I started the hobby and got two MT's with
bum engines and had to figure out what replacement would fit for a minumal
cost!

Doc
Simon - 02 Jan 2006 21:13 GMT
> >> > http://www.nitrotek.co.uk/products.php?cat=14

> 2.  Slide or rotary carb?

I'll answer the rest in one go just after I clear the above up. THis is
where you most definetly realise I am a complete NOOB!

I take it rotary is where the if you move the throttle arm and look into the
carb. The plate that comes over rotates to close.open the air flow. A slide
will slide in a straight movement? Or am I totally off?
nospam@noway.com - 03 Jan 2006 00:00 GMT
>> >> > http://www.nitrotek.co.uk/products.php?cat=14
>
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> slide
> will slide in a straight movement? Or am I totally off?

Ok, with a rotary carb, moving the throttle arm turns a little barrel inside
the carb body.  The barrel has a hole in it and the more throttle you give
it the bigger the hole gets (or rather the more of the hole is exposed).
With this type of carb movement is parallel to the engine (front to back).

Slide carbs have a slide that controls the size of the throttle opening.
This slide moves in and out with throttle application.  Carb movement is
perpendicular to the engine (side to side).

Slide carb pics:

http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXFRE3&P=7
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXDLP1&P=7
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXJYV1&P=7

Rotary carb pics:

http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXGEH4&P=7
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXGEF1&P=7

HTH,

Doc
Simon - 03 Jan 2006 11:17 GMT
> >> > http://www.nitrotek.co.uk/products.php?cat=14

> 1.  Side or rear exhaust?
> 2.  Slide or rotary carb?
Rotory

> 3.  Is the shaft a) short threaded, b) long threaded or c) SG; pics of each
> below:
SG (What does it stand for? If anything)

> 4.  Is there room behind the engine to insert a shaft to start the motor
> with rotostart?  The rotostart shaft would enter the backplate at the top
> left corner.
No I wouldn't think so. There is a fuel tank in the way.

> I went thru the same hassles when I started the hobby and got two MT's with
> bum engines and had to figure out what replacement would fit for a minumal
> cost!
Minimal costs are definitely the key words with me! Others call me cheap
skate hehe.
nospam@noway.com - 03 Jan 2006 22:27 GMT
>> >> > http://www.nitrotek.co.uk/products.php?cat=14
>
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> Minimal costs are definitely the key words with me! Others call me cheap
> skate hehe.

Your forgot which type of exhaust you have.  Side or rear?

Doc
Simon - 03 Jan 2006 23:26 GMT
> >> >> > http://www.nitrotek.co.uk/products.php?cat=14
> >
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>
> Doc
DOH! side.
nospam@noway.com - 04 Jan 2006 03:49 GMT
>> Your forgot which type of exhaust you have.  Side or rear?
>>
>> Doc
> DOH! side.

So, you now know you need side exhaust, rotary carb, SG crank w/ pullstart.
The pickins' will be slim without some mods.  If you can find a clutch nut
for use with standard cranks (threaded) that will work with your clutch
shoes and clutchbell you'll be much better off choice-wise.

All I could find that was cheap and decent was this:

http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXHTN0&P=0

Doc
 
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