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Model Forum / Radio Controlled / Land Models / January 2006Gear Ratios
If I wanted to get my Savage to hook up and do wheelies what would be the best gear ratio of the Clutch Bell and the Spur Gear to use? Now what if I wanted speed? > If I wanted to get my Savage to hook up and do wheelies what would be > the best gear ratio of the Clutch Bell and the Spur Gear to use? > > Now what if I wanted speed? The smaller the clutchbell and the bigger the spur, the faster the acceleration - urgo the more wheelies. The larger the bell and the smaller the spur, the more top end and the less acceleration. Think about it like a peddle bike :) What engine are you running? The S25 should just about wheelie on 15/49, it should deffo do it on 15/52. My K4.6 would wheelie on 16/48 - but i've richened the bottom end and have supersoft suspension to stop it - wheelies are something everyone should play with for a bit, cos they are fun - but they do get boring quiet quickly - especially if you're trying to drag race ;) Another thing that affects them more than you'd think is the stiffness of the back suspension - the stiffer it is the more likely to are to get wheelies.  SignatureDan Thanks For the info > Thanks For the info My truck has the S-25 motor, 15/49 gearing (stock), Motorsaver air filter, HPI polished pipe and Dirt Bonz Tires. I also have a ton of aluminum parts and it weighs much more than a stock Savage RTR. It will flip itself over on it's lid every time you mash the throttle and will run controlled wheelies into third gear. I was playing this weekend and was popping forward wheelies, then hitting the brakes and doing an endo, then back on the gas for another wheelie........I walked it accross my backyard like that, pretty fun. If you're running the stock tires that came with the S-25, lose them quick! They are very, very heavy and kill your take off as well as handling. If you go with the Bonz or a similar tire the increase in bottom end and handling will be HUGE. If you're running the stock composite pipe lose it as well and go with HPI ribbed (loud) or HPI Polished. Both are cheap and both have lots of bottom end and great top end as well. After switching tires and pipes if you're still not wheelie-ing, it's a tuning issue and not a gearing issue. Those who state "an S-25 won't wheelie" (and there are lots of them) just don't know how to tune correctly. Doc >> Thanks For the info > [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > wheelie" (and there are lots of them) just don't know how to tune > correctly. Yea he's right - i've seen an S25 pop wheelies on stock pipe and wheels/tyres so on the better bits they should do it easy. SignatureDan I am running the S25 engine - stock pipe and stock tires. Can I just buy the HPI Dirt Bonz tires and they will fit the stock rims or do I need to buy new rims also? Are the ribbed pipes louder or quiter? Or does the pipe just help with performance? I like the sound it has with the stock pipe. It sounds tough. >I am running the S25 engine - stock pipe and stock tires. Can I just > buy the HPI Dirt Bonz tires and they will fit the stock rims or do I > need to buy new rims also? Are the ribbed pipes louder or quiter? Or > does the pipe just help with performance? I like the sound it has with > the stock pipe. It sounds tough. The bonz will fit the stock tires, but you'll have to cut the old ones off and then glue the bonz to them. You'd be better off just buying the tires and wheels new and assembling. It's nice to have the stockers around as a set for mud bogging and huge jumping as the Bonz are more of a dry traction tire and don't have as much "smoosh" as the stockers. I can make some recommendations if you're interested. There's one guy I buy off of on E-Bay alot and he has awesome low prices. The ribbed pipe is MUCH louder than stock, the polished pipe is a wee bit quieter. The sound is pretty much the same with all the pipes (composite, ribbed, polished), just the volume level is different. The pipes definitely help with peformance. Even though the polished pipe is quieter than stock, it still drowns out anything else I run with. Doc What is the e-bay sellers user name or store name? > What is the e-bay sellers user name or store name? The sellers name is nitronutzz and his store is located here: http://stores.ebay.com/NITRONUTZZ I get just about all of my Savage stuff from him as his prices are great and shipping is insanely fast. He basically parts out new Savage kits, so most of the stuff he has is OEM and a great source for replacement parts/repair parts, etc. Tower sells the Bonz for about $25 a pair; he sells a set of four for the same price. He also has the 4.6 wheels for a great price. Doc > > What is the e-bay sellers user name or store name? > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Doc Hey, I've gotten a crap load of stuff from him :) Small world eh? (not with the internet!) Cheers Dre btw, KANED my Inferno around on Oz day yesterday, I had forgotten how a) loud it is at wot and b) how bloody fast the thing is! would absolutely SNOT the Savage :) >> > What is the e-bay sellers user name or store name? >> [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > loud it is at wot and b) how bloody fast the thing is! would absolutely > SNOT the Savage :) I bet my Sav could take it ;) > >> > What is the e-bay sellers user name or store name? > >> [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > I bet my Sav could take it ;) You reckon?!?! It leaves mine for dead :) Cheers Dre >> >> > What is the e-bay sellers user name or store name? >> >> [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] >> > You reckon?!?! It leaves mine for dead :) My macho banter says it can - and cos we'll never get to race - i can be 100% i'm right ;-) Hehehe! SignatureDan > >> >> > What is the e-bay sellers user name or store name? > >> >> [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > My macho banter says it can - and cos we'll never get to race - i can be > 100% i'm right ;-) Hehehe! LOL, in that case my savage would EAT yours alive, LOL :) (in first :P) Cheers Dre > LOL, in that case my savage would EAT yours alive, LOL :) (in first :P) > > Cheers Dre You both suck..................my Mayhem would eat both of your Savages, buggies and whatever the hell else you own and shite out little fried r/c bits in it's exhaust! Bwahahahahaha! Mwuahahahaha! Actually, the ol' Mayhem is grounded for the time being. Lunched a landing and snapped the front bumper braces this PM, and Horizon is all sold out (backordered until April, WTF?). My only hope is the not-so-local hobby shop I'm gunna call tomorrow. It's a bit of a hike but if he's got em' it'll be worth the drive. I can drive it with the broken braces but w/o the added support on the front bumper if I hit something hard I'll torch the shock tower and front end pretty badly.......... Installed a Hobbico CS-64 on the throttle/brake this PM as well and MAN what a difference compared to the JR Z590M I had on there. The specs are identical but the Hobbico is at least twice as fast and twice as powerful. I'm really not too impressed with JR radios or servos at this point; does anyone have any good things to say about them? Doc > > LOL, in that case my savage would EAT yours alive, LOL :) (in first :P) > > [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > Doc Hehehehehe, you just wait till I get my Mini Inferno onto your 1/8th scales!!!! <evil grin :)> Re the JR stuff, never used it myself so no comment (hope that helps, hehehe, not! :) Cheers Dre Funny -- My friend just bought a revo servo from him (10.00) the same servo at towerhobbies was 24.00. Thanks for the lead |
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