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Cooked all three Servo's??

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jdunning@snet.net - 11 Feb 2006 22:30 GMT
First time posting here, so far I've been able to solve all my problems
in the archieves, but not this one.

Yesterday a friend and I went for a rip session, and I ended up with a
screwed up sav. I've got a Savage 25, stock servo's, a couple linkage
mods that the previous owner did, a Futaba 3PM FM radio and receiver,
and that's about it. I put a new A3 plug in it yesterday since it was
about 30f outside and it was running great! I ran half a tank while my
friend was trying to start his T-maxx,  ha! Anyway, he finally starts
his and within ten seconds I "accidentally" sideswiped him and his fuel
tank exploded. Fuel everywhere, totally destroyed the tank. So, off to
the LHS for a new one. While we were there we thought it'd be a good
idea to run the track for a while. Since it was so cold the ground was
super hard and the landings had to be spot on or else. Since I'm pretty
new at this most were not. After dislodging my hump pack from the 2
sided tape and ejecing it several times [here's the problem, I got to
it evntually] my sav wouldn't shift out of reverse. My radio signaled
'Low Battery', so I put in 8 fresh alkalines. Then, the steering went
full lock left and wouldn't turn. So, I assumed I had a low battery in
the truck.

This afternoon I charged the pack and tried to sort it out and I still
have some issues. It'll steer left only, throttle works but not brakes,
i.e. only one direction, and it'll shift into reverse but not out of
it.

Any ideas? Is something cooked? What and how do I start about sorting
this mess out?

Thanks in advance for your help!

Josh
DanTXD - 12 Feb 2006 00:05 GMT
> First time posting here, so far I've been able to solve all my problems
> in the archieves, but not this one.
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>
> Josh

The only real way to do it is to test each bit seperately - beg/borrow/steal
some other servos and RX to test it with, and see which bits are buggered.
Sounds like the receiver or crystal to me though to be fair.

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M78Ultra - 12 Feb 2006 03:40 GMT
Is the truck running a failsafe unit?...if so, reset it.
Check all the plugs in the receiver.
Check all the wires..battery/servos/receiver and antennae
Check your crystals.
If you hear a clicking or whining noise when turning right...the servo may
be stripped.
Did your receiver get wet or soaked with fuel?..If so take it apart and
spray the board with ELECTRIC motor cleaner and reassemble.

> First time posting here, so far I've been able to solve all my problems
> in the archieves, but not this one.
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>
> Josh
Josh D - 13 Feb 2006 14:39 GMT
Inline...

> Is the truck running a failsafe unit?...if so, reset it.

Nope.

> Check all the plugs in the receiver.

Did it.

> Check all the wires..battery/servos/receiver and antennae

Did it.

> Check your crystals.

Ordered a new one... Hoping that'll solve it.

> If you hear a clicking or whining noise when turning right...the servo may
> be stripped.

Nope. Teeth are good.

> Did your receiver get wet or soaked with fuel?..If so take it apart and
> spray the board with ELECTRIC motor cleaner and reassemble.

Nope, the T-Maxx tank exploded, not mine. I kept right on driving.

>> First time posting here, so far I've been able to solve all my problems
>> in the archieves, but not this one.
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>>
>> Josh
Pt1 - 12 Feb 2006 05:08 GMT
I seriously doubt you wasted all your servos.  Not impossible, but highly
unlikely.  As suggested before, I'd try another receiver or crystal. Also,
have you tried switching the direction of your servos on the transmitter?
This might give you an idea about the servos if you get the direct opposite
results.

I'd also put a volt meter on your receiver pack to make sure it is being
charged completely as well. I don't know which type of charger you are using
for your receiver pack, but if it is just a plug-in-the-wall style that has
no peak abilities, then you might not be getting a full charge or possibly
have a bad battery.

Patrick
Josh D - 13 Feb 2006 14:41 GMT
>I seriously doubt you wasted all your servos.  Not impossible, but highly
>unlikely.  As suggested before, I'd try another receiver or crystal. Also,
>have you tried switching the direction of your servos on the transmitter?
>This might give you an idea about the servos if you get the direct opposite
>results.

I tried reversing the servo's on my radio and nothnig happens. I ordered a
new crystal yesterday so we'll see if that fixes it.

> I'd also put a volt meter on your receiver pack to make sure it is being
> charged completely as well. I don't know which type of charger you are
> using for your receiver pack, but if it is just a plug-in-the-wall style
> that has no peak abilities, then you might not be getting a full charge or
> possibly have a bad battery.

I'm using a Phrophet multi charger set at 1 amp. It beeps when it's done.
That's about all I know...

Thanks for your help, hopefully the crystal will fix it.

jjd
DanTXD - 14 Feb 2006 01:37 GMT
>>I seriously doubt you wasted all your servos.  Not impossible, but highly
>>unlikely.  As suggested before, I'd try another receiver or crystal. Also,
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>
> Thanks for your help, hopefully the crystal will fix it.

If it's not the crystal, i'd be suspecting the receiver or even the tranny
(or tranny crystal - though I've never known of one of them busting...)

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Josh D - 14 Feb 2006 13:22 GMT
>> Thanks for your help, hopefully the crystal will fix it.
>
> If it's not the crystal, i'd be suspecting the receiver or even the tranny
> (or tranny crystal - though I've never known of one of them busting...)

If the crystal ends up not fixing it, can I use any FM receiver? Or do I
have to stick to the same one I'm replacing?
Josh Dunning - 17 Feb 2006 03:31 GMT
> First time posting here, so far I've been able to solve all my problems
> in the archieves, but not this one.
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>
> Josh

New FM crystal came in today, so I popped it in, now nothing happens. I'll
wait until tomorrow before  I start monkeying around  with things.

Question for the group, are the crystals directional? As in positive and
negative? I know the Rx and Tx are different. Also, can I use any Rx with my
Futaba radio? Does it have to be the exact replacemnt of the one I'm
replacing?

Thanks again,

jjd
nospam@noway.com - 17 Feb 2006 03:47 GMT
> New FM crystal came in today, so I popped it in, now nothing happens. I'll
> wait until tomorrow before  I start monkeying around  with things.

Is the new crystal the same frequency as the old one?  Sounds like you
bought the wrong frequency.

> Question for the group, are the crystals directional? As in positive and
> negative?

Nope.  Either way works.

>I know the Rx and Tx are different. Also, can I use any Rx with my Futaba
>radio? Does it have to be the exact replacemnt of the one I'm replacing?

Any rx on the same band and frequency will work.

Doc
Justin Mahn - 17 Feb 2006 08:46 GMT
"Doc" wrote:

>>New FM crystal came in today, so I popped it in, now nothing happens. I'll
>>wait until tomorrow before  I start monkeying around  with things.
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>
> Doc

On 75 mhz FM band Futaba only works with Hitec.  JR, Airtronics, and KO
are incompatible.  Easy to reference, just check the XXTRA receiver on
tower hobbies.

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nospam@noway.com - 17 Feb 2006 22:07 GMT
> On 75 mhz FM band Futaba only works with Hitec.  JR, Airtronics, and KO
> are incompatible.  Easy to reference, just check the XXTRA receiver on
> tower hobbies.

Thanks for the correction Justin!

Doc
Josh D - 17 Feb 2006 13:44 GMT
>> New FM crystal came in today, so I popped it in, now nothing happens.
>> I'll wait until tomorrow before  I start monkeying around  with things.
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>
> Doc

It's entirely possible, I thought if I got a FM 75 I'd be fine. I've got the
original HPI AM radio and Rx at home. I'll try switching some things around
this afternoon and post my findings.

Thanks guys.

jjd
DanTXD - 17 Feb 2006 15:29 GMT
>>> New FM crystal came in today, so I popped it in, now nothing happens.
>>> I'll wait until tomorrow before  I start monkeying around  with things.
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> the original HPI AM radio and Rx at home. I'll try switching some things
> around this afternoon and post my findings.

Whip the crystal out of the tranny, there will be some numbers written on
the side, that's the exact frequency, make sure the one you're putting into
the RX is the same :)

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Josh D - 17 Feb 2006 16:30 GMT
>>>> New FM crystal came in today, so I popped it in, now nothing happens.
>>>> I'll wait until tomorrow before  I start monkeying around  with things.
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> the side, that's the exact frequency, make sure the one you're putting
> into the RX is the same :)

There's a crystal in the tranny too? Sonofa...

I posted on savage-central.com and a guy there says " get a different freq.,
couldn't hurt to have an additional one in case the crystal is OK..."

jjd
Anyone want to buy a lightly used Savage?
nospam@noway.com - 17 Feb 2006 22:06 GMT
Inline.............................

>>> It's entirely possible, I thought if I got a FM 75 I'd be fine. I've got
>>> the original HPI AM radio and Rx at home. I'll try switching some things
>>> around this afternoon and post my findings.

There are about 40 frequencies on the FM 75Mhz band.  You need both crystals
to be the same frequency.

> There's a crystal in the tranny too? Sonofa...

Nooooooo, Dan's probably been boozin' again!

> I posted on savage-central.com and a guy there says " get a different
> freq., couldn't hurt to have an additional one in case the crystal is
> OK..."

Very true.

> Anyone want to buy a lightly used Savage?

It's not the Savage's fault you bought the wrong frequency crystal and/or
have faulty radio equipment!

Doc
DanTXD - 18 Feb 2006 14:02 GMT
> Inline.............................
>
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>
> Nooooooo, Dan's probably been boozin' again!

I meant in the transmitter :)

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