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Simon - 20 Feb 2006 21:52 GMT
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1-10th-Scale-Nitro-Buggies-Off-Road-Buggies-R-Go_W0QQi
temZ6038037370QQcategoryZ19168QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

How much would this be worth would you say?
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Have a voice. A voice for cheaper petrol.

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DanTXD - 20 Feb 2006 23:08 GMT
> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1-10th-Scale-Nitro-Buggies-Off-Road-Buggies-R-Go_W0QQi
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> http://www.pipelinecard.org/recommend.html

No more than a fiver.

"top quality engine from Team Infinity"

BWAAAHAHAHAHA :D

Seriously, not worth the time and hassle.

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Dan

nospam@noway.com - 20 Feb 2006 23:17 GMT
>> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1-10th-Scale-Nitro-Buggies-Off-Road-Buggies-R-Go_W0QQi
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> Seriously, not worth the time and hassle.

Agreed.  Bears a striking resemblence to the crap sold by internetrc.com.
JUNK!

Doc
Dre - 20 Feb 2006 23:34 GMT
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1-10th-Scale-Nitro-Buggies-Off-Road-Buggies-R-Go_W0QQi
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> Doc

but for 99p??  Buy 3 and drive em like you stole em :)

Smash one?  dont matter, got another 2 LOL!

Cheers Dre
Simon - 20 Feb 2006 23:43 GMT
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1-10th-Scale-Nitro-Buggies-Off-Road-Buggies-R-Go_W0QQi
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> Smash one?  dont matter, got another 2 LOL!

Surely its worth 40 quid?
Simon - 20 Feb 2006 23:42 GMT
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1-10th-Scale-Nitro-Buggies-Off-Road-Buggies-R-Go_W0QQi
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> Seriously, not worth the time and hassle.

What was/is so bad with them?
DanTXD - 20 Feb 2006 23:54 GMT
> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1-10th-Scale-Nitro-Buggies-Off-Road-Buggies-R-Go_W0QQi
>> > temZ6038037370QQcategoryZ19168QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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> What was/is so bad with them?

Well, I'm basing this on another bargain basement brand, Acme Nitro-Tek, as
seen here

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6036065516

My boss at the time bought one of these for his kid to mess around with,
couldn't get it going, so sent it off with me to break in and set up.  Where
to start....  The team infinity engine was frankly laughable.  Wouldn't hold
a tune, over heated, and made pittiful power (and i'm experienced enough to
be able to tune an engine).  Then, on break in, driving round a flat car
park, it snapped a diff gear into 2 pieces, and melted it's clutch.  No idea
how or why it did this.  Then we'll move onto the very, very poor plastics,
where screws went into them, you could only realistically get these holes to
bite once, the plastic was so weak the screws (which were made of cheese)
just tore it up.

It may just be that I am used to HPi quality, but to be fair, this thing
would be enough to put me off RCs for good if I knew nothing of them
previously.

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Dan

nospam@noway.com - 21 Feb 2006 01:49 GMT
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> Well, I'm basing this on another bargain basement brand, Acme Nitro-Tek,
> as seen here
>
> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6036065516

BINGO.  They're all made by the same company with a different monniker.

> My boss at the time bought one of these for his kid to mess around with,
> couldn't get it going, so sent it off with me to break in and set up.
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> realistically get these holes to bite once, the plastic was so weak the
> screws (which were made of cheese) just tore it up.

I'll ditto all of that.  My bud's Acme Conquistador experienced the same
difficulties.  The .15 Team Infinity motor overheated like none other, and
to keep it under 300* we had to run it so rich it couldn't get out of it's
own way.  It ate both diffs in under 1 quart of fuel; the diff gears are
VERY soft.

My bud later "nudged" a curb with it at maybe 1/2 throttle and the damn
thing disintegrated into a kajillion pieces.

> It may just be that I am used to HPi quality, but to be fair, this thing
> would be enough to put me off RCs for good if I knew nothing of them
> previously.

They are just poor quality period.  I was all exicted to see that a company
was releasing a 1/18 micro-nitro buggy and was gunna grab one ASAP.  Guess
what?  Made by Acme and powered by a Team Infinity motor.  Scratched that
one off the muct have list really fast!

Doc
DanTXD - 21 Feb 2006 02:57 GMT
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> own way.  It ate both diffs in under 1 quart of fuel; the diff gears are
> VERY soft.

Yea it was either the Conquistador or the Condor or summet that I had to
sort - seriously, what ARE the diff gears made of?  I was able to chip bits
off the broken gear with a screw driver.  The problem is as well, newbies
get them, fire them up, leave positive feedback, play for a bit, break them,
find them slow and then never venture back into RC.  Crap like this actually
damages our hobby IMHO.  Nowadays it's not as bad, as you can get a Sav 3.5
for under £300, and a new T-Maxx for £220, so they're not as out of reach as
they once were, but still this cheap crap is flooding the market and putting
off would-be RC fanatics.

<rant over>

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nospam@noway.com - 21 Feb 2006 04:17 GMT
> Yea it was either the Conquistador or the Condor or summet that I had to
> sort - seriously, what ARE the diff gears made of?

They looked like pot metal to me, d/t the differences in color and texture
and softness.

>I was able to chip bits off the broken gear with a screw driver.  The
>problem is as well, newbies get them, fire them up, leave positive
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> <rant over>

I agree.  If they were more in-line with the toy-class vehix per way of
pricing (like $100 or so) it wouldn't be so bad, but most are running in the
$200's and folks forking out that kind of $$$ expect decent, hobby-grade
quality.

Been considering my next major purchase.  Here are my current options:

1) OFNA Ravager
2) Hot Bodies GTX2 Twin
3) Building up a Savage Twin from Roller purchased on e-bay.

Doc
Dre - 21 Feb 2006 05:17 GMT
> > Yea it was either the Conquistador or the Condor or summet that I had to
> > sort - seriously, what ARE the diff gears made of?
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>
> Doc

E-Zilla!  :)

Hehehe, thats on the top of my list anyway..

Nice choices though (specially the last one, as long as you post pics and
movies :)

Savage X too similar to your current Sav?

Cheers Dre
DanTXD - 21 Feb 2006 13:40 GMT
>> Been considering my next major purchase.  Here are my current options:
>>
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> Savage X too similar to your current Sav?

I was considering a 2nd truck, and looked at the X, but then decided it was
too pricey cos I couldn't find a cheap one on the 'bay, and also, I suspect
my Sav is actually quite a bit better :)  Except for the easy out diffs I've
got it beat from every angle :-p.

The HB GTX Twin looks like a crazy piece of kit - although I often here bad
things about HB engines.

The Ravager we can't get over here, is that the buggy with the .28?

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Dan

Dre - 21 Feb 2006 23:40 GMT
> >> Been considering my next major purchase.  Here are my current options:
> >>
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> too pricey cos I couldn't find a cheap one on the 'bay, and also, I suspect
> my Sav is actually quite a bit better :)  <snip>

RIGHT ON!!!  Zactly what I reckon :)  Plus I'm still planning to put Torsens
in mine and then it'll kick arse!  (I now have a brand spankers 4.6 diff
assembly so now need to get a torsen to mod in there!)

Cheers Dre

>Except for the easy out diffs I've
> got it beat from every angle :-p.
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> The Ravager we can't get over here, is that the buggy with the .28?
nospam@noway.com - 22 Feb 2006 01:52 GMT
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> "Dre" <blah@somewhere.com> wrote in message

>> E-Zilla!  :)

I had thought about that, but don't want the expense of decent batts and
charger.  Right now I just have a handfull of 1500 Ni-Cd's and a timed
charger for my starters.

>> Nice choices though (specially the last one, as long as you post pics and
>> movies :)

You know it!

>> Savage X too similar to your current Sav?

My current Sav is WAY better than a bone-stock Savage X in every way aside
from the easy-out diffs and externally adjustable 3 speed.

> I was considering a 2nd truck, and looked at the X, but then decided it
> was too pricey cos I couldn't find a cheap one on the 'bay, and also, I
> suspect my Sav is actually quite a bit better :)  Except for the easy out
> diffs I've got it beat from every angle :-p.

BINGO!

> The HB GTX Twin looks like a crazy piece of kit - although I often here
> bad things about HB engines.

Yeah same here; if it was available as a kit minus electronics and engines I
would own it already.  Pop a couple Sportwerks .26's in there and vroom!

> The Ravager we can't get over here, is that the buggy with the .28?

Yep.  Retails over here for $319-$349 US depending on the seller.  Would
cost me around $600 by the time it was Doc-worthy though.

Doc
Simon - 21 Feb 2006 23:23 GMT
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1-10th-Scale-Nitro-Buggies-Off-Road-Buggies-R-Go_W0QQi
> temZ6038037370QQcategoryZ19168QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
>
> How much would this be worth would you say?
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> Have a voice. A voice for cheaper petrol.

All said and read, I'll think I'll pas for anything over 5 pound!
 
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