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Ofna Force 32 Question

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M78Ultra - 12 Jun 2006 04:07 GMT
Here I am with the same question I had on the Ofna Force .28..
Does anyone know if the Force .32 Motor accepts the same
pullstarts/rotostarts as the .28/.26/.21 Force engines do?
nospam@noway.com - 12 Jun 2006 06:47 GMT
> Here I am with the same question I had on the Ofna Force .28..
> Does anyone know if the Force .32 Motor accepts the same
> pullstarts/rotostarts as the .28/.26/.21 Force engines do?

Ruh roh!  Sounds like someone is gunna drop some huge cubes into his Savage!
I'm just about ready to splurge on a new mill for the ol' beast myself.  I'm
really tempted to grab an Axial .32 as the reviews I've read have been
great.

Doc
DanTXD - 12 Jun 2006 13:34 GMT
>> Here I am with the same question I had on the Ofna Force .28..
>> Does anyone know if the Force .32 Motor accepts the same
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>
> Doc

Novarossi .28.  You know it makes sense.

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M78Ultra - 12 Jun 2006 15:47 GMT
Definately considering a motor transplant of some sort.
Would be nice if the 32 accepts the same starters as the other Force motors,
as I have spare rotos and pulls here to fit those.

> >> Here I am with the same question I had on the Ofna Force .28..
> >> Does anyone know if the Force .32 Motor accepts the same
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>
> Novarossi .28.  You know it makes sense.
DanTXD - 12 Jun 2006 16:16 GMT
> Definately considering a motor transplant of some sort.
> Would be nice if the 32 accepts the same starters as the other Force
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>>
>> Novarossi .28.  You know it makes sense.

The 8 port Novarossi .28 is the most powerful of all the engines.  Don't let
yourself be blinded by the cubes :)

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nospam@noway.com - 13 Jun 2006 03:13 GMT
> The 8 port Novarossi .28 is the most powerful of all the engines.  Don't
> let yourself be blinded by the cubes :)

I'm blinded by the Novarossi's price tag.

Doc
Dre - 13 Jun 2006 04:15 GMT
>> The 8 port Novarossi .28 is the most powerful of all the engines.  Don't
>> let yourself be blinded by the cubes :)
>
> I'm blinded by the Novarossi's price tag.
>
> Doc

ROFL, my thoughts exactly :)

Stoked up the Inferno on the w/e, geeze it was nice to clear the cobwebs out
of it, sh.t it honks!

Cheers Dre
nospam@noway.com - 13 Jun 2006 20:27 GMT
>>> The 8 port Novarossi .28 is the most powerful of all the engines.  Don't
>>> let yourself be blinded by the cubes :)
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>
> Cheers Dre

I took mine out Sunday as well.  I love it more and more every time I drive
it!  Damn thing screams and has like a 2' turning radius!  The Proline
Badlands were really hooking up in the ash-like dirt I was running in.  I'm
tempted to swap out the 7.0mm carb insert for the 8.5mm one and make it even
quicker, but if it gets any faster it'll go vertical...............

Doc
Dre - 13 Jun 2006 23:19 GMT
>>>> The 8 port Novarossi .28 is the most powerful of all the engines.
>>>> Don't let yourself be blinded by the cubes :)
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>
> Doc

Nice, theres nothing really I want to do to mine (except drive it lots) atm,
it absolutely flies along, handles like its on rails etc, but you allreay
know that :)

I ran mine on bitumen, full throttle, full lock side to side and the thing
still wont flip!

Cheers Dre
DanTXD - 14 Jun 2006 01:14 GMT
>>>> The 8 port Novarossi .28 is the most powerful of all the engines.
>>>> Don't let yourself be blinded by the cubes :)
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> make it even quicker, but if it gets any faster it'll go
> vertical...............

I can't think of any viable excuse for running the pussy carb  :-) ?
Dre - 14 Jun 2006 01:44 GMT
>>>>> The 8 port Novarossi .28 is the most powerful of all the engines.
>>>>> Don't let yourself be blinded by the cubes :)
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>
> I can't think of any viable excuse for running the pussy carb  :-) ?

Neither can I.  You can never have too much power :)

Btw, can you easily change carbs over like that??  Like could I put a carb
from a .28 (with big throat) onto my .21 which is a screamer donk??  or will
it screw everything up.

Can you muck around with carbs on these little engines like you can with the
big ones??

Cheers Dre
nospam@noway.com - 14 Jun 2006 04:25 GMT
>>>>>> The 8 port Novarossi .28 is the most powerful of all the engines.
>>>>>> Don't let yourself be blinded by the cubes :)
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>
> Cheers Dre

They're actually carb inserts.  Same carb, but it came with 6.5, 7.0 and
8.5mm carb inserts.  I have the same carb on my Mayhem ST.  I run the 8.5mm
insert on the Mayhem as it's bigger and heavier, but have stuck with the
7.0mm on the Kanai d/t it being lighter.

With regard to never having too much power..............I'm gunna disagree.
Eventually you get to a point where the wheels won't grab d/t too much
torque and the top speed exceeds the vehicles ability to handle.  Would you
drop a GM 572 ci big block in a Ford Fiesta?  No?  Why not?  Too much power!
The Mayhem, being a heavier vehicle needs all the oomph I can squeeze out of
the motor, but the buggy does just fine with the 7.0mm carb insert, has
USEABLE power and gets great fuel economy to boot!

Doc
Dre - 14 Jun 2006 04:43 GMT
>>>>>>> The 8 port Novarossi .28 is the most powerful of all the engines.
>>>>>>> Don't let yourself be blinded by the cubes :)
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>
> Doc

Bah, spoil sport :P

But seriously, can you swap carbs over and not wreck the performance of the
engine??

Cheers Dre
nospam@noway.com - 14 Jun 2006 21:56 GMT
> Bah, spoil sport :P
>
> But seriously, can you swap carbs over and not wreck the performance of
> the engine??
>
> Cheers Dre

As long as it physically fits, yeah, you can swap carbs out between engines.
The OD of the bottom of the carb must be the same as the ID of where the
carb fits in the motor.  This info is available for most motors and carbs.

Doc
Dre - 14 Jun 2006 23:26 GMT
>> Bah, spoil sport :P
>>
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>
> Doc

Sweeeeet!  Time to have a fiddle.  Might pull the one off the Savage and see
how it goes, its HUGE!

Cheers Dre
DanTXD - 14 Jun 2006 10:35 GMT
> With regard to never having too much power..............I'm gunna
> disagree. Eventually you get to a point where the wheels won't grab d/t
> too much torque and the top speed exceeds the vehicles ability to handle.
> Would you drop a GM 572 ci big block in a Ford Fiesta?  No?  Why not?  Too
> much power!

No no no, that would just requirement an adjustment of driving style ;)

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nospam@noway.com - 14 Jun 2006 21:57 GMT
>> With regard to never having too much power..............I'm gunna
>> disagree. Eventually you get to a point where the wheels won't grab d/t
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>
> No no no, that would just requirement an adjustment of driving style ;)

You guys are nuts!  Muahahahahaha!

D
Dre - 14 Jun 2006 23:27 GMT
>>> With regard to never having too much power..............I'm gunna
>>> disagree. Eventually you get to a point where the wheels won't grab d/t
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>
> D

Yep <evil grin>  :)

Cheers Dre
nospam@noway.com - 14 Jun 2006 04:21 GMT
>> I took mine out Sunday as well.  I love it more and more every time I
>> drive it!  Damn thing screams and has like a 2' turning radius!  The
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> I can't think of any viable excuse for running the pussy carb  :-) ?

Fuel economy for one............I race this thing and I get 1-2 minutes more
per tank than with the bigger carb insert.  One less pit stop = about 10-15
seconds off the total time.

Doc
M78Ultra - 15 Jun 2006 05:29 GMT
Holy Cow!
I looked at the Novarossi .28's and I could have 2 -3 engines for the price!
Not saying it may not be worth it,...but it may not be worth it, to someone
on a budget!
I still haven't found out on the .32 Force pullstart, if it is a "specific"
unit or the same as the other Force engines.
Waiting on a reply from Ofna............(if they respond at all)

> > Definately considering a motor transplant of some sort.
> > Would be nice if the 32 accepts the same starters as the other Force
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> The 8 port Novarossi .28 is the most powerful of all the engines.  Don't let
> yourself be blinded by the cubes :)
Dre - 15 Jun 2006 06:23 GMT
> Holy Cow!
> I looked at the Novarossi .28's and I could have 2 -3 engines for the
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> let
>> yourself be blinded by the cubes :)

Is there more than one Nova .28??  Cause there is one on ebay atm for $270US
which I didn't think was too bad.  But its a 3 port, I would have thought
they had an 8 port (which prolly costs an arm :)

http://tinyurl.com/jex2u

Cheers Dre
DanTXD - 15 Jun 2006 10:54 GMT
>> Holy Cow!
>> I looked at the Novarossi .28's and I could have 2 -3 engines for the
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>
> Cheers Dre

Yea there is also the faster one ;-)  Which does indeed cos an arm, and a
kidney.

The only experience I have of Force engines is of their .21s.  I knew of 3,
that all let go...

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GTD - 13 Jun 2006 05:16 GMT
>> Here I am with the same question I had on the Ofna Force .28..
>> Does anyone know if the Force .32 Motor accepts the same
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
>Doc

Does anyone havean idea of how theAxial .32 stands up against other
motors, , , specifically the RB 728 series engines? I went to town to
buy a 728 but they sold their last one. They did have an axial .32,
for less but without a pipe.
What I'd like to see is a rundown of many of the popular engines
compared, but have yet to find such information. Thanks
nospam@noway.com - 13 Jun 2006 20:30 GMT
>>> Here I am with the same question I had on the Ofna Force .28..
>>> Does anyone know if the Force .32 Motor accepts the same
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> What I'd like to see is a rundown of many of the popular engines
> compared, but have yet to find such information. Thanks

I can't remember where I read about it, but it was a decent review.  I'm
sure the RB is a better motor as they make some wicked mills, BUT the Axial
is like $100 cheaper.  I think the axial is right in the same class as the
SureFire .32 (good performance at a decent price).  It's gunna get wonked by
the Italian mills, OS and RB engines, but it much less expensive.  The only
thing that has kept me from grabbing one is the parts availability at my LHS
and E-Bay (both of which are nill).

Doc
GTD - 13 Jun 2006 21:55 GMT
"Doc" wrote:

> >>> Here I am with the same question I had on the Ofna Force .28..
> >>> Does anyone know if the Force .32 Motor accepts the same
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>
> Doc
Thanks, that's pretty much the info I was looking for. I kinda figured
that would be the case. It is unfortunate that we don't have honest
numbers to compare engines with. I have an MGT 4.6 that I'm looking to
upgrade the motor in, but I just don't have any way of getting an
honest numbers. When someone says "Motor X is much more powerful than
Motor Y", do they mean Motor X makes 5% more horespower, or 500% more
horsepower? Are they even right? Are they comparing the performance of
a truck that is set up properly for one engine, and poorly for the
other? I know horsepower numbers are only a small part of the equasion,
, , but without them, we are often left with only opinions and vague
comparisons.
Anyways, That's my rant. . .. .
L8r
nospam@noway.com - 14 Jun 2006 04:33 GMT
> "Doc" wrote:
>> >
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> Anyways, That's my rant. . .. .
> L8r

You're right on the money.  The numbers given by manufacturers are worthless
IMO.  Every motor I've read dyno reviews on has produced less HP than
claimed by the manufacturer, some by up to 20% less.  I just find a good
motor by reading user reviews and personal experimentation and stick with
it.  I'm hooked on Sportwerks .26, 7-port V2's right now.  They put out an
honest 2.75HP @ an honest 36,000RPM, are easy to tune, hold a tune well, do
not overheat and are cheap as dirt ($129.99!).  I have em' in two of my
three vehix right now (Kanai III and Mayhem ST) and am contemplating
dropping one in the ol' Savage as well.  I run a THS 8012 on the buggy and a
Sportwerks HT pipe on the truggy and it performs equally well with both
pipes, albeit with a different powerband (THS = low-mid, SWK = mid-high).

Doc
DanTXD - 14 Jun 2006 01:15 GMT
>>>> Here I am with the same question I had on the Ofna Force .28..
>>>> Does anyone know if the Force .32 Motor accepts the same
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> expensive.  The only thing that has kept me from grabbing one is the parts
> availability at my LHS and E-Bay (both of which are nill).

I've heard the big RBs are prone to overheating...

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GTD - 14 Jun 2006 01:34 GMT
>I've heard the big RBs are prone to overheating...

I heard that once before, but on the forums on RBs website, there are
little or no mention of overheating. I would think if there were a
problem, it would show up there to some degree. .
 
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