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Richard - 15 Oct 2006 02:02 GMT
Anyone running anything other than the standard air filter on their Nitro
Car or Truck?

I put a Motor Saver on the Tmaxx about a month after we got it and it made a
huge difference in both performance gained and generally keeping the Mix
clean inside.  We were cleaning the Traxxas filter every time we used it but
this is not necessary with the Motor Saver.  We had to richen both the LSN
and HSN up a little when we put the new filter on too.

While having the Savage a part I thought I would just check and clean the
filter.  I noticed that the inlet on the filter was pretty small.  The
throat of the carburettor is 8.5mm in diameter, the elbow pipe down to the
carby is 15mm and the hole on the filter is 8mm and the airflow is not a
straight path through the body of the air filter so surely this has to
reduce the airflow.  Also being a bi-directional flow into the ai filter
only coming in the sides, if you had it facing down on one side this would
also reduce the airflow and probably suck heat into the filter rather than
cool clean air.

The reduced airflow would definitely dampen the performance of the motor.
It would also probably make the motor louder as the main velocity of the
airflow is coming from the air filter and not the throat of the carburettor.
After inspecting the Motor Saver filter on the Tmaxx I notice that there is
no restriction on air flow right up to the throat of the carburettor except
the bend on the elbow pipe.  About the only reduction in performance I can
see by having the Motor Saver filter on the Savage is a little less low end
power but a huge improvement on top end due to the change in velocity of the
air flow.

After a little bit of research I see that HPI actually do a copy of the
Motor Saver filter as option #72438 High Performance Air Cleaner for all the
Savage models.  Obviously HPI agree with my theory if they offer this as a
performance upgrade.

The list of new parts grows. :-)

Cheers
M78Ultra - 15 Oct 2006 05:55 GMT
The motor savers are great as far as air flow goes...
but..
there are some down points as well..
You HAVE to make sure the inner filter is seated all the way down against
the inner base. There isn't a very good base lip on the filter.The mesh
likes to hold/snag the inner filter up a bit.
If the inner filter is not bottomed out all the way this simply creates a
vacuum of dirt straight into the carb and motor.
Also, upon a hard "top lunch" it is feasible for the front top cap to pop
off.
I used to use the motor saver brand filters..but have since went to the two
stage plastic screwed on front plastic cap filters.
(As you mention HPI #72438).. It is plastic capped instead of a screen, and
has a decent size lip at the base of the inner filter.
I know of two people who have torched motors because the filter wasn't
seated on a motor saver filter.
The motor savers I had also collected more dirt on them, because of the
forward facing breathability and the filter facing forward,the front screen
was alwas dirty when ran.
They are great filters for super airflow, but, just a heads up to be careful
with it!

> Anyone running anything other than the standard air filter on their Nitro
> Car or Truck?
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>
> Cheers
Doc - 15 Oct 2006 17:27 GMT
> The motor savers are great as far as air flow goes...

> They are great filters for super airflow, but, just a heads up to be
> careful
> with it!

Yeall, I'll second that.  I've run them on all three of my nitros since day
one, for maybe a combined total of 25 gallons or so between all three.
NEVER had a problem until this summer, really dusty day at the track, foam
wasn't seated correctly inside the housing, and it did indeed torch my
piston and sleeve.  Kinda wet sanded it; the dust was so fine that when it
mixed with the fuel it practically polished the sleeve and piston down to
where there wasn't any pinch left.  Shiny as hell, <looked> fine, but alas
she was not.  I had the telltale dirt trail down the back of the filter neck
where the foam wasn't all the way seated.

A way to rectify this problem I have since discovered:

The longer the filters sit in the housing, the more compressed (squished)
they get, and once they're squished enough they loose their seal on the
bottom of the filter housing.  Removing the foam, squirting it down with
fuel or denatured alcohol to clean it also makes it poof up.  It can then be
reoiled and will hold a perfect seal until it becomes squished again.  My
buggy had been sitting for two months with a freshly oiled filter before
that fateful day, but in that two months it got squished and lost it's seal
on the bottom of the housing.

Doc
 
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