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Alternator in a Tmaxx

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MatthewJ - 06 Nov 2006 11:32 GMT
Is there any type of alternator  in a T-maxx or any other rc truck ?
Basically, i'm looking for a way to grab a few volts to power other
electronics.
GTD - 06 Nov 2006 19:41 GMT
> Is there any type of alternator  in a T-maxx or any other rc truck ?
> Basically, i'm looking for a way to grab a few volts to power other
> electronics.
I have yet to see anything like this, but keep in mind that this would
place a significant load on the engine, enough that it would probably
be more feesable to add batteries. .
Dre - 08 Nov 2006 05:53 GMT
>> Is there any type of alternator  in a T-maxx or any other rc truck ?
>> Basically, i'm looking for a way to grab a few volts to power other
>> electronics.
> I have yet to see anything like this, but keep in mind that this would
> place a significant load on the engine, enough that it would probably
> be more feesable to add batteries. .

I would have thought only a big electrical load would mechanically load up
the motor?  (damn confusing load talk!)

Would RC electrics pull that much current??  I was under the impression that
2 servos + receiver only pull around 2amps max (roughly) at full load?  That
should be doable for a 540 sized motor I would have thought?

I'm tempted to rig up a motor and stick it in a nitro and see how many amps
it can pump out, now where is my old T-maxx chassis :)

Cheers Dre
Richard - 08 Nov 2006 05:04 GMT
> Is there any type of alternator  in a T-maxx or any other rc truck ?
> Basically, i'm looking for a way to grab a few volts to power other
> electronics.

What are you trying to power?

Try making up a E-maxx style motor mounting bracket and chuck a motor in
there running off the spur gear.  The critical part is getting the gearing
right to reduce the load and make sure you use a motor with weak magnets and
0 degree timing like a stock Johnson or Mabuchi 540 or even a 380 motor as
your generator motor.  If money permits you could even use a brushless motor
but you'll need to make a circuit to change from ac to dc for your output
voltage.

You may need to put a voltage regulator on the output of the motor as its
highly possible with the high RPM nitro motor in the Tmaxx you will be
running way to much RPM for the electric motor but again the correct gearing
will help with this.  A capacitor or two on the output stage should also
smooth out the voltage output as well.

As GTD said you will increase you load on your T-maxx motor but if geared
correctly I doubt it would be a significant load increase.

Cheers
Dre - 08 Nov 2006 05:47 GMT
>> Is there any type of alternator  in a T-maxx or any other rc truck ?
>> Basically, i'm looking for a way to grab a few volts to power other
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> Cheers

Thats a really good idea, sticking an 540 size motor running off the main
drive gear.  Then I had a kack about what happens when you hit the brakes :)

All of a sudden your generator stops and your power stops, LOL, no more
electricity to open the throttle to get more power, hehehehe.

You'd have to drive it off the flywheel.  By belt??   I'd be inclined to say
that a nitro engine would be able to cope with a load like that (electric
motor).

But OTOH, is an electric motor plus all associated bracketry and belts etc
actually *lighter* than a battery pack?  I'd so no, so puts a bit of a
downer on the idea.

I like it though, just for the "cause I could" factor :)

Cheers Dre
Richard - 08 Nov 2006 06:25 GMT
> >> Is there any type of alternator  in a T-maxx or any other rc truck ?
> >> Basically, i'm looking for a way to grab a few volts to power other
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> Cheers Dre

I don't know if he wants it to power the radio gear.

There is almost no way he will get enough amperage from a single motor to do
that anyway.  In the articles that I have read about doing this they are
lucky to get 300 mili-amps (0.3 amps) from a similar size motor.  If he just
wanted to power lights or use it to put charge back into the RX pack it
would be ok though.

You could do the same with your Emaxx or Zilla by disconnecting one motor
and wiring it back into the battery circuit.

Cheers

BTW Dre - what else have you got for sale?
MatthewJ - 08 Nov 2006 13:40 GMT
Hi,

I was actually thinking on putting in some headlights for dark days and
evening driving.

It's silly , but just a thought.

>>>> Is there any type of alternator  in a T-maxx or any other rc truck ?
>>>> Basically, i'm looking for a way to grab a few volts to power other
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> BTW Dre - what else have you got for sale?
Richard - 08 Nov 2006 17:54 GMT
> Hi,
>
> I was actually thinking on putting in some headlights for dark days and
> evening driving.
>
> It's silly , but just a thought.

Not silly at all.

We use 5 mm ultra bright LED's (18,000 mcd) for headlights on most of our
trucks in the summer time for playing at night.  They are a perfect size for
fitting in between the top and bottom bar of the front and rear bumper of
the T-maxx and bright enough to blind you if you look straight at them.  We
could have used light globes but they are just not as durable as LED's and
they require a lot more power for the same light the LED's produce.  The
other nice thing about LED's is that they are easy to seal so we don't have
to worry about moisture.

Using a configuration of 4 forward facing clear/white LED's and 2 red LED's
on the rear they will run for about 10-12 hours continuos off a 9 volt
battery.

The circuit for them is pretty easy, just a LED, resistor, 9 volt battery
plug and wire, we use computer coloured ribbon cable for our wires.  We just
solder all connections and heat shrink all exposed wiring. You could also
wire them into your RX battery pack or put a Y-harness in your truck and
power it off the servo lead for your reverse servo.

There is also a few companies that manufacture light kits if you want to buy
a made up set.

http://www.maxxlights.com/
http://www.customrccars.com/parts.asp?search_p=29

Cheers
MatthewJ - 08 Nov 2006 21:48 GMT
Cool, thanks.

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Dre - 08 Nov 2006 22:45 GMT
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> Cheers

I do exactly the same thing.  So much fun driving around at night :)

Did you know that Jaycar now have 30,000MCD 5mm leds???  I've ordered some
to make up a new pair of headlights.  Bloody hell thats bright!

Cheers Dre
Richard - 09 Nov 2006 00:04 GMT
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> Cheers Dre

I don't no if I really want to no what their selling them for, I had a quick
look and the 18,000 5 mm clear/white led's are $4.95 each and we get our
18,000's from a guy in Sydney for 90 cents each.

I'll find the web page for you when I get a moment spare later today.

Cheers
Dre - 09 Nov 2006 00:26 GMT
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Yeah they are exxy at 4.95 each, they are new replacements for the 18000's.

Still pretty cheap compared to off the shelf stuff..

Cheers Dre
ian - 08 Nov 2006 23:57 GMT
any UK distribut

: There is also a few companies that manufacture light kits if you want to buy
: a made up set.
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: Cheers

any uk distributors?  I hate all that overseas imports crap.
Iridium - 08 Nov 2006 23:58 GMT
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> any uk distributors?  I hate all that overseas imports crap.

eBay -always someone selling light kits of some kind.

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Formerly DanTXD

Richard - 09 Nov 2006 01:30 GMT
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> any uk distributors?  I hate all that overseas imports crap.

Contact their web site and ask who their UK distributor is, according to
their web site they have on in the UK.

Otherwise like Dan said give ebay a bash or make your own.

Here is a helpful site:
http://led.linear1.org/led.wiz

Cheers
Richard - 09 Nov 2006 01:43 GMT
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Sorry I didn't say who, Max Lights say they have a UK distributor on their
web site

Cheers
Dre - 08 Nov 2006 22:43 GMT
>> >> Is there any type of alternator  in a T-maxx or any other rc truck ?
>> >> Basically, i'm looking for a way to grab a few volts to power other
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> BTW Dre - what else have you got for sale?

Well there you go, I had no idea how much you could get out of a 540...
Saves me the trouble of finding out :)

For sale??  Erm, I dont have anything for sale :)

The only thing I've been thinking of selling is the E-maxx, but I've boxed
it up and put it into storage...

OTOH, I wouldn't mind finding a new home for my Inferno MP6 (never gets
used), complete, ready to go, heaps of spares...

Cheers Dre
Richard - 08 Nov 2006 23:54 GMT
> >> >> Is there any type of alternator  in a T-maxx or any other rc truck ?
> >> >> Basically, i'm looking for a way to grab a few volts to power other
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> Cheers Dre

I thought it might have been you that was selling some stuff on ebay
230047467884 because it was Emaxx items and because of the users id.

I guess I was wrong

Cheers
Dre - 09 Nov 2006 00:32 GMT
>> >> >> Is there any type of alternator  in a T-maxx or any other rc truck
>> >> >> ?
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> Cheers

Oh that stuff!  Sorry yes thats me, I thought maybe I had mentioned stuff
for sale on here :)

I've listed the turnbuckles, lug covers and body brace.  Thats all I have
new in bag (I got a heap of stuff in one auction and I only wanted one of
the items, so rest can go).  I have some left over T-maxx stuff, chassis,
gearbox, engine etc.  Thats all left over from when I converted it to an
E-maxx so its used.  Ummm, I have a Tamiya mini which is about to go on
ebay, very very little use, no electrics but a heap of NIB spares...

Where you looking for anything in particular?

Cheers Dre
Richard - 09 Nov 2006 01:40 GMT
> Oh that stuff!  Sorry yes thats me, I thought maybe I had mentioned stuff
> for sale on here :)
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> Cheers Dre

I was going to put my unused M03 Mini on ebay until my brother saw it so I
am giving it to him so he has something he can chase koala's with in his
street.

I'm dinkum about the koala's too, they've just moved into their new house in
Tweedheads and they have koala's in the wild everywhere around them.

I wasn't after anything really I just happened to come across your ebay
stuff when I was browsing.  I was actually thinking of listing some of the
stuff I have here that never gets used.  I might even see what I can get for
the FJ40 body and Yokomo Super Dogfighter I got here.

Cheers
Dre - 09 Nov 2006 01:55 GMT
>> Oh that stuff!  Sorry yes thats me, I thought maybe I had mentioned stuff
>> for sale on here :)
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Koalas in the street!!!  Whoa!

Do it, I love getting rid of old stuff on ebay.  Its about the only place I
can :)

Great LED link btw, am looking there right now!

Cheers Dre
 
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