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E-maxx vs E-Savage

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Iridium - 31 Mar 2007 14:17 GMT
The heart says E-Savage - because it's a Savage and people tell me it's
faster as stock.  Am I right?  Any gotchas I need to look out for?  This is
all my knowledge of electric trucks - please all enlighten me :-)  Also the
E-Maxx is ooooooooooooold now.

I'm sorely tempted by the E-Savage - would this be a bad idea?

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TyBreaker - 31 Mar 2007 22:02 GMT
> The heart says E-Savage - because it's a Savage and people tell me it's
> faster as stock.  Am I right?  Any gotchas I need to look out for?  This is
> all my knowledge of electric trucks - please all enlighten me :-)  Also the
> E-Maxx is ooooooooooooold now.
>
> I'm sorely tempted by the E-Savage - would this be a bad idea?

I personally prefer the E-Maxx, although I don't have either, mainly
because I like big trucks and it is the larger of the two but also
because it has a 3-speed tranny which you can shift on the fly from your
3-channel radio.  It may be old but not many electrics have that
functionality so it is still cutting edge in my opinion.

I recently completed my TXT-1 and it worked out at over twice as much as
the E-Maxx once you buy all the electrics on top of the kit itself.
However I have a preference to build my trucks so if you prefer an RTR,
it certainly is the more economical approach and the E-Maxx is still
almost as big as the TXT-1.  An E-Savage is a nice package as again, it
comes with everything you need - even a dual-battery charger and
batteries which is something you still have to pay extra for with an E-Maxx.

Tybreaker
Iridium - 01 Apr 2007 02:11 GMT
>> The heart says E-Savage - because it's a Savage and people tell me it's
>> faster as stock.  Am I right?  Any gotchas I need to look out for?  This
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>
> Tybreaker

Cheers for the reply :-)

I know the E-Maxx can take 8.4v 7 cell battery packs, can the Savage do this
as well or is it 7.2v 6 cell only?

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Richard - 01 Apr 2007 16:52 GMT
> >> The heart says E-Savage - because it's a Savage and people tell me it's
> >> faster as stock.  Am I right?  Any gotchas I need to look out for?  This
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> --
> Dan

BTW the Emaxx is a 2 speed not 3. The best mod I did to the wifes Emaxx was
to convert it to a single speed. She's destroy a lot less parts now as a
single speed than she did with the 2 speed. The other much needed mod is
some better shocks and springs because the Emaxx springs are way to soft and
the shock tops like to pop off with heavy weight oil in them, then you'll
need to upgrade to CVD's and get some better tires......

Yes, you can run 7 cell packs but you have to replace the battery covers
with straps or mod the covers to fit the extra cell. Its recommended that
you put a fan on the ESC if you run 7 cell packs though.

Since the E-Savage is a true RTR that comes with batteries and dual battery
charger, IMO I think its a much better buy than the Emaxx. I was tempted to
get one of the Ezilla's but then I heard the E-Savage was replacing it so I
thought I'd wait, but now I find that most hobby shops here are charging 150
bucks more for the E-Savage because its a HPI product. So I've given up on
that one now.

I'll wait until I can find a cheap Revo or LST roller and convert it to
brushless.
ian - 01 Apr 2007 22:18 GMT
: > >> The heart says E-Savage - because it's a Savage and people tell me it's
: > >> faster as stock.  Am I right?  Any gotchas I need to look out for?
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: I'll wait until I can find a cheap Revo or LST roller and convert it to
: brushless.

I got an e zilla.  its a bit narrow and very high.  So it rolls and wheelies
alot.  No wheelie bar at back so you'll spend alot of time picking it up on
tarmac.  Seen the traxas.  better lower wider chassis.  Seen it run on
carpet and manages to stay upright.  I should think a second gear makes for
a faster top end.  The traxas i saw was converted to brushless.  However
financially the zilla makes more sense.  Cheaper, and comes with two batts
and double batt charger.  For a timer its the better choice.  Good on grass
and loose stuff.
Iridium - 01 Apr 2007 22:22 GMT
> I got an e zilla.  its a bit narrow and very high.  So it rolls and
> wheelies
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> grass
> and loose stuff.

Ah well I can do shock limiting mods I learned on my Savage to drop it
nearer the floor, and of course get rid of the stock wheels, which I'm gonna
assume are thick, soft tyres and lots of weight...

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ian - 02 Apr 2007 13:40 GMT
:  For a 1st timer  its the better choice.  Good on
: > grass
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: nearer the floor, and of course get rid of the stock wheels, which I'm gonna
: assume are thick, soft tyres and lots of weight...

The stock tyres are supposed to be low profile.  They are still big.  I've
seen 2nd user ones on ebay for £100.  Mine was an earlier one so the
supplied batts were hot bodies 2000.  barely lasted a best speed for a few
minutes.  Put 2x 4300 vapex in and it goes like a rocket.  Runs for half an
hour.

or you can buy a new tamiya and fit it with radio gear

http://www.selections-web.co.uk/hardware/Radio_Controlled-Tamiya_Kits/c7_37/p677
/1/10_Twin_Detonator_-_TL01/TL01B_Twin_Motor/product_info.html

Iridium - 02 Apr 2007 18:03 GMT
> :  For a 1st timer  its the better choice.  Good on
> : > grass
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>
> http://www.selections-web.co.uk/hardware/Radio_Controlled-Tamiya_Kits/c7_37/p677
/1/10_Twin_Detonator_-_TL01/TL01B_Twin_Motor/product_info.html

The decision has been made - E-Savage it is, 4300mah Vapex batteries will
arrive within the week :-)  Got some stock Maxx wheels with Mulchers to
plonk straight on anyway.

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Iridium - 03 Apr 2007 00:49 GMT
>> :  For a 1st timer  its the better choice.  Good on
>> : > grass
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> arrive within the week :-)  Got some stock Maxx wheels with Mulchers to
> plonk straight on anyway.

And here's stupid question number 1 :-)  With the E-Savage, does the
receiver/steering servo take power from the 7.2v batteries or does it
require a seperate hump pack?

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Doc - 03 Apr 2007 01:31 GMT
> And here's stupid question number 1 :-)  With the E-Savage, does the
> receiver/steering servo take power from the 7.2v batteries or does it
> require a seperate hump pack?

Takes it's power from the 7.2V packs.  No additional batt'y for the
rx/servo.

Doc
Iridium - 03 Apr 2007 01:37 GMT
>> And here's stupid question number 1 :-)  With the E-Savage, does the
>> receiver/steering servo take power from the 7.2v batteries or does it
>> require a seperate hump pack?
>
> Takes it's power from the 7.2V packs.  No additional batt'y for the
> rx/servo.

Ah good :-)

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Iridium - 01 Apr 2007 22:23 GMT
>> >> The heart says E-Savage - because it's a Savage and people tell me
>> >> it's
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> bucks more for the E-Savage because its a HPI product. So I've given up on
> that one now.

Cheers Richard :-)  The E-Savage is well priced over here, £220ukp at
Modelsport.  Cheaper than the E-Maxx by £50ukp and 100% RTR.

> I'll wait until I can find a cheap Revo or LST roller and convert it to
> brushless.

Looked into this as well, too much coin for me though :-)

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TooSlow - 03 May 2007 21:34 GMT
when you get your E-Savage check the slipper clutch. Factory sets it a
1 1/4 turn. Most recomdations with stock should be only 1/2 turn..

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TooSlo
 
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