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Model Forum / Radio Controlled / Land Models / September 2003Evader ST or BX
I will be getting either an EvaderST or BX for my daughters (4&6) for some fun parking lot driving with some small plywood ramps for excitement. I was wondering what you guys think would be better, the ST or BX. They like the buggy, but I was looking for some other opinions. I even considered the Traxxas Bandit, but the Duratrax warranty, full bearings, cvds, ESC sold me on the Evaders. Adding the bearings and esc would negate the cheaper Bandit, actually making it more expensive. Also, do the buggies handle ok on the pavement, turning wise? I thought I read somewhere that they don't turn well on pavement. Too much push or something. Craig -- Punisher911 Craig ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posted from the RCGroups.com Discussion Forums. Visit us at http://www.rcgroups.com <------- Win free R/C Gear! View this thread at rcgroups.com: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=153824 The truck will be much easier to drive and much harder to roll over.  SignatureJustin Mahn remove Panties to e-mail > I will be getting either an EvaderST or BX for my daughters (4&6) for > some fun parking lot driving with some small plywood ramps for [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > Visit us at http://www.rcgroups.com <------- Win free R/C Gear! > View this thread at rcgroups.com: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=153824 > The truck will be much easier to drive and much harder to roll over. Most trucks (stadium, monster, whatever) will have a higher CG and will therefore, IMO, be easier to roll over. I've never seen a buggy roll unless you slide it into something sideways, or get come down off a jump weird. Signaturejc, posting from off-site I can't believe you grouped stadium trucks with monster trucks at all! Anyway the proposed use for the vehicle will be 4 and 6 year old bashers. They're going to want to do small and large jumps. They'll need a little bit of ground clearance. They don't need a super fast super twitchy lowrider. It'll get hung on the grass easier, and YES, it will be harder to land gracefully from a medium to large jump. That's going to make the little buggies roll over. Plus the suspension has less travel and will allow the chassis to take more abuse. Yes the stadium truck has a higher CG. It also has a wider stance. From my own experience, it's much harder to roll a stadium truck than a 1/10 buggy in bashing conditions. SignatureJustin Mahn remove Panties to e-mail > > The truck will be much easier to drive and much harder to roll over. > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > I've never seen a buggy roll unless you slide it into something sideways, or > get come down off a jump weird. Well, I bought my EvaderST yesterday. No problems with rollovers. Nice little truck. Next weekend I will buy a T3. My girls and I are going to have some fun parking lot races. I don't think I'll go for the road tires though, as I want the truck to spinout if cornered too fast. My girls need to learn throttle control too. The front rims on the Evader have way too much runout though, they hit the knucke when spun. Mr. Dremel fixed that. I also don't like the brakes, or lack there of, on the Evader. Better ESC eventually. Other than that, I like it. Jumps smoothly, handles ok. Think I'll keep it. -- Punisher911 Craig ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posted from the RCGroups.com Discussion Forums. Visit us at http://www.rcgroups.com <------- Win free R/C Gear! View this thread at rcgroups.com: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=153824 I bought an Evader ST for me and my boys. I too run on asphalt. Just last night I replaced the worn out factory tires with HPI V Groove truck tires (http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXM973&P=7). I can't believe how well the truck handles on asphalt now. Night and day difference, I HIGHLY recommend these tires to any Evader ST owner who drives on asphalt. I can't say enough good about them. I already had an extra set of factory wheels (bright green/yellow) and the HPIs fit perfectly. The only downside is you lose some of your top end speed because the tires are actually a little smaller in diameter. I am planning on upping my pinion to a ~25 instead of a 20. Good luck, --Dan > I will be getting either an EvaderST or BX for my daughters (4&6) for > some fun parking lot driving with some small plywood ramps for [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > -- > opinions. I even considered the Traxxas Bandit, but the Duratrax > warranty, full bearings, cvds, ESC sold me on the Evaders. Adding the I like my Bandit a lot. > bearings and esc would negate the cheaper Bandit, actually making it > more expensive. Also, do the buggies handle ok on the pavement, > turning wise? I thought I read somewhere that they don't turn well on > pavement. Too much push or something. The Bandit pushed on dirt and street until I threw some appropriate tires on both ends. Now it grips on both surfaces (different tires for each surface). Signaturejc, posting from off-site I have both an ST and a BX. The BX, being lighter and smaller and with a 23T pinion (vs 18T for ST) is quite a bit faster. It is also easier to flip, and easier to damage. My experience with young kids is that the stock gearing on both is too fast for them until they have some experience. The BX, being faster, is worse in this regard. The problem is that it takes kids a while to figure out how to give just a little gas; they tend to go full forward or full reverse. Smaller pinion gears help in this regard. My recommendation is to get the ST, and a 15T pinion to start. Once they can drive, go back to the stock pinion. As for turning, you can adjust the suspension on both to get the kind of handling you want. If you are doing jumps, you need more spring (tighten the spring adjusters) in the front and the back. If the back has stiffer springs than the front, more weight will transfer to the front when you let off the gas and turn. This means the front will dig in more. The ST has wider tires front and rear, so you get more grip in general, though the rubber studs on the ST wear off pretty quickly in the rear. Another thing to know, the stock motor is pretty good and very inexpensive. You can get a new one at Tower Hobbies for $17. |
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