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Tamiya Big Wig Mid 80s (Diagnosing Electrical Fault) Whats the voltage for an old reciever?

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Fin - 03 Aug 2007 19:55 GMT
Hi All,

Does anyone know what voltage I should be measuring running into the
reciever?  I'm getting 7.2V off the battery.  That runs into the old
mechanical speed controller just fine.  I've then checked the feed
from the on/off switch which also looks to have some resistors and a
few other bits and bobs.  It's output to the reciever is running at
0.6 volts.  I managed to get it running temporarily yesterday after
reconnecting everything.  Now it's back to dead.  :(  Any help or
links would be appreciated.

The reciever is a KO-Digiace KR-283 if that makes any difference.

Cheers,

Fin
Fin - 04 Aug 2007 17:21 GMT
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Think I've narrowed it down.  The voltage regulator might be stuffed.
I have put that to the side for another time and I swapped out the
electronics for a modern speed controller and reciever and everything
is running fine.  Nips around well fast for two minutes then dies
about five minute later.  Good fun.

Interesting though.  My friend was running a modern tamiya mini cooper
and the little thing managed to last 15 minutes on a 7.2V 20 year old
pack.  My car went through two modern 7.2 packs and an aged 8.4 volt
one.  I understand the 4wd drive train will be sapping some extra
effort.  However I can't see why the battery lifespan would be so
different.  It doesn't seem to be friction as the car runs and
accellerates just as good as day one.  It just seems to be sapping out
the batteries at a crazy rate.  Are older motors noticabley less
efficient?  As this is the only electrical component that is still of
1980s vintage.

Fin
ian - 06 Aug 2007 20:56 GMT
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a mini cooper runs on a silver 540 can.  That is roughly 36 turn.  older
motors may have a great deal of tarnish on the brushes and copper com.  more
resistance and sparking to get the motor running.
SBlackfoot - 07 Aug 2007 15:16 GMT
> a mini cooper runs on a silver 540 can.  That is roughly 36 turn.  older
> motors may have a great deal of tarnish on the brushes and copper com.  more
> resistance and sparking to get the motor running.

The Bigwig's stock motor was a Technigold. Tame by modern standards but it
REALLY sucks back the battery life.

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Fin - 08 Aug 2007 12:16 GMT
On Aug 7, 3:16 pm, "SBlackfoot" <trypti...@sympatico.obvious.ca>
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> > a mini cooper runs on a silver 540 can.  That is roughly 36 turn.  older
> > motors may have a great deal of tarnish on the brushes and copper com.
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Hi Ian/SBlackfoot

MMMMmmmmm sounds like an excuse to get a new motor.  Are there any
good sites for comparisons between power consumption and performance?
I'm not looking for anything crazy fast.  I used to run a 50k+ rpm
high torque motor in the bigwig during the nineties and it ate
batteries in under 2 minutes.  Went like a rocket from hell for those
two minutes but I'm a calmer person now and I'd like to run for more
than 15 mins at moderate speeds.  I've got my nitro car if I want the
hassle of smashed parts with every crash.  I also note it may be
harder to source replacements now than back in the old days.  No re-
released bigwig like they've done with some of the other cars like the
grasshopper.

Do the brushless motors improve battery performance?  From what I read
on the forums it just seems to be a saver on maintenance.

I've ordered up some 2200 and 3600 mah batteries and a new delta peak
battery charger so I'm hoping to have a better experience than with my
1200mah 22 year old batteries.  I'm amazed they even held a charge.
Although that said I did manage to explode one over the weekend after
overcharging it by 15 minutes.  Went off like a gunshot.  I can see
why they don't do fast chargers without timers anymore.

Cheers for the info guys,

Fin
 
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