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jpw - 26 Nov 2007 20:18 GMT My son is 13 and I think he would really enjoy the more sophisticated RC devices. Yet, I don't know where to begin. He likes building things, but hates painting (typical engineering type!). What controller would be good to start, any kit reccommendations? I don't want to buy a cheesy toysrus RC that breaks, but I don't want to break the bank on what might not prove to be interesting. Looking for advice.
Many thanks, jpw
Kevin - 26 Nov 2007 22:12 GMT > My son is 13 and I think he would really enjoy the more sophisticated > RC devices. Yet, I don't know where to begin. He likes building [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Many thanks, > jpw a few clues would help, as its bit like your normal car so many variations it all depends what you want it to do 1, indoors or outdoors 2, battery or nitro 3, on road off road 4, price
GTD - 27 Nov 2007 01:26 GMT >> My son is 13 and I think he would really enjoy the more sophisticated >> RC devices. Yet, I don't know where to begin. He likes building [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > 3, on road off road > 4, price Good questions, but to the OP, if you haven't decided, I would recommend electric. A Traxxas E-Maxx might be a good first choice. It's a little big for indoors, but for quiet, simple, off-road driving that can take reasonable hits, it's pretty good. Quite a bit of upgradability in the form of better batteries and hoped-up motors, including some brushless setups. I believe the body comes pre-painted.
kenji - 27 Nov 2007 01:43 GMT In article <09254484-13e3-4467-ac43-f58bd2005025@i12g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
> Looking for > advice. you need to tell us where you want to use the vehicle the most......smooth surfaces or curbs, grass, sidewalks, alleys....
there's great products for both on road and off road
jpw - 27 Nov 2007 03:53 GMT > In article > <09254484-13e3-4467-ac43-f58bd2005...@i12g2000prf.googlegroups.com>, [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > there's great products for both on road and off road thanks for the responses! i think outdoor would be preferable, however, his birthday is in December...so indoor usability might be a plus. We also live along a river, so a boat isn't out of the question. I thought land-vehicle would be better since the river will probably be frozen.
off road would be his choice, no doubt! i'm not sure what the diff btwn battery and nitro is. if you have links to go with your suggestions, that would be most helpful. TIAA
kenji - 27 Nov 2007 04:13 GMT In article <201d98b9-758b-4262-9202-cca712d1238c@y5g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,
> > In article > > <09254484-13e3-4467-ac43-f58bd2005...@i12g2000prf.googlegroups.com>, [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > btwn battery and nitro is. if you have links to go with your > suggestions, that would be most helpful. TIAA http://faqs.org/faqs/models/rc-cars/newbie-guide/
1/10th scale truck , $325.00 Ready to run:
http://www.traxxas.com/products/electric/rustler3708/trx_rustler.htm
1/18th Ready to Run, $175.00:
http://www.losi.com/Products/Features.aspx?ProdId=LOSB0219
Kevin - 27 Nov 2007 08:03 GMT >> In article >> <09254484-13e3-4467-ac43-f58bd2005...@i12g2000prf.googlegroups.com>, [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > btwn battery and nitro is. if you have links to go with your > suggestions, that would be most helpful. TIAA I would make sure its something he wants rather than something you want him to have? as going left right forwards an backwards on your on soon gets boring, be it a boat or a car
jpw - 27 Nov 2007 18:56 GMT > >> In article > >> <09254484-13e3-4467-ac43-f58bd2005...@i12g2000prf.googlegroups.com>, [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > - Show quoted text - Good point, about whether he wants this...I know I don't care. I think he'll like to do it. Do these things come with the controllers? How about a vehicle that you have to build, I think he'd like that in particular...that would make it somewhat less boring, I think. Any cool kits you know of?
Smed - 27 Nov 2007 20:23 GMT >> >> In article >> >> <09254484-13e3-4467-ac43-f58bd2005...@i12g2000prf.googlegroups.com>, [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > like that in particular...that would make it somewhat less boring, I > think. Any cool kits you know of? for a first vehicle, look around for RTR (Ready To Race). it will come with the engine/motor, servos, radio, and tires already installed and can be ready out of the box as soon as the batteries charge.
also, in my opinion, look around for the Traxxas. it is WAY faster/cooler/fun than the old Tyco RC's that we had when we were little. they are very durable and have tons of after market parts in case something gets broke or he just wants to customize his vehicle. and yes, sometimes these vehicles will break. even the best driver breaks stuff from time to time. the great thing about Traxxas is you can replace EVERYTHING so its not broken for very long. plus fixing these things is half the fun. and the replacement parts really aren't that expensive.
electric or nitro? go with electric. less fuss for a young driver. the old batteries used to be 15 minutes of charge for 5 minutes of run. but these new batteries can last around 20 minutes. adjusting the carb in a nitro is an art that changes with humidity, temp, altitude, etc.
good luck.
K Van - 28 Nov 2007 06:51 GMT >>>>> In article >>>>> <09254484-13e3-4467-ac43-f58bd2005...@i12g2000prf.googlegroups.com>, [quoted text clipped - 41 lines] > > good luck. Maybe you could gauge his interests by ducking into a local hobby shop "since we're here" or cruise some on line videos while he's around and see what grabs his eye.
I'm personally in to Nitro, the sound, smell and noise is part of the experience, and in my mind, more mechanical.
Yes, it's different than electric, and there are real pluses in ease of use. I like polishing and porting, tuning, etc., I have a racing background and have been around engines since day one.
My first RC was nitro, and there is a little learning curve, but once you get to know your engine and play with it, it's all second nature. I am designing my own Savage to Electric conversion too, but I hammer on my toys hard, a couple are on HPI's website...
So anyway, I would not rule out nitro, but maybe you can glean info from the kid and see what he likes. You'll obviously know him better than any of us online.
Shameless plug, my friends and I messing around: http://videos.socalcrew.com/links.php?go=67 But it has many different things running around in it, from buggies, electric, nitro and gas (Baja) and more at videos.socalcrew.com, tho I've been really lazy about keeping the links up to date...
Richard - 29 Nov 2007 09:07 GMT >> >> In article >> >> <09254484-13e3-4467-ac43-f58bd2005...@i12g2000prf.googlegroups.com>, [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > like that in particular...that would make it somewhat less boring, I > think. Any cool kits you know of? IMO only kit manufacturers to consider are Tamiya (www.tamiyausa.com) or Kyosho (www.kyoshoamerica.com). There are many more that mainly deal with top grade vehicles and I'm sure would cost far more than you would want to spend.
IMO your initial outlay in cost for a kit would not be to different to buying a complete RTR from such companies as Traxxas or Losi and you'll get a warranty on the vehicle, which you don't normally get with a kit.
Some of the differences between a kit and a RTR is that most kits from Tamiya (don't know about Kyosho though) come with plastic bushings (not bearings) and a mechanical speed controller. These two items are something that will need replacing sooner or later. Bearings and an electronic speed controller are fitted as standard to most of the Traxxas and Losi RTR vehicles. Don't forget that with a kit, you will also need paint to paint the body too.
We went through a similar situation with my 12 year old nephew last year and it was decided that he would be far better off with a RTR as a first vehicle than a kit. Mainly because we figured he wouldn't want to wait 3 days after getting his new truck to actually get a chance to drive it. After giving him his present I asked if he would have preferred building his truck from a kit and he said NO WAY!!!
A year down the track and the only thing that my nephew has had to replace is a $3 gear.
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