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AVCWausau - 04 Dec 2003 14:27 GMT
Would it be possible or even worth the effort to put MT tires and wheels om my
stadium truck to get more ground clearance for bashing in the back yard?

Thanx Brian
Divrdan007 - 04 Dec 2003 17:08 GMT
>Subject: Tire question for newbie.
>From: avcwausau@aol.com

>Would it be possible or even worth the effort to put MT tires and wheels om
>my
>stadium truck to get more ground clearance for bashing in the back yard?

Pro Line "Mashers" will add some ground clearance.
Just about any stadium truck should be able to push those around, without any
performance lost.
If it's a nitro truck, you won't notice any speed loss at all.
You should even gain some top-end speed, because the tires are taller.
If you're running electric, you may want to run a smaller pinion, or a larger
spur gear to compensate for the different tire diameter.
Additionally, the Pro Line Mashers will fit your standard 2.2" rims, so you
won't have to worry about making any hub or axle mods either.
   You can also raise the ride height with your shocks/springs, but that will
affect how the truck handles.
    Big, wide monster truck tires will certainly slow you down.
I would go with the Mashers, and cut your grass shorter ;-)
When I get ready to go out and tear up  the backyard, I run my lawn tractor at
the lowest cutting setting. Makes the whole  yard smooth... like a golf green.
I run Pro Line "Dirt Hawgs" on grass &  pavement, and save those delicate
*Step-Pin* tires for the track.
Good Luck and have fun.
AVCWausau - 05 Dec 2003 15:24 GMT
Thanx for the info. I did get the mashers and a set chrome pro line rims with
adapters. I t made a big diference. It hauls butt on the grass! It wont get
very good traction on the dirt. I guess i will try some adjustments.

thanx brian
Jamie Garofalo - 05 Dec 2003 16:21 GMT
Just know that w/ the larger tires, you're putting more stress on the
A-arms. They will and can snap alot easier. Especially when it comes
to hard landings.
Justin Mahn - 05 Dec 2003 20:07 GMT
Any relation to Jeanene Garafalo?

Anyways the stress is going to be on the motor here.  The a-arm won't be
significantly overstressed.  Unless you're talking about 20' air.  Then you
don't get the benefit of bottoming out the chassis.  THEN the a-arm will
take all the hit.  You'll learn your limits.  Some of us just have to learn
the hard way I guess.

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> Just know that w/ the larger tires, you're putting more stress on the
> A-arms. They will and can snap alot easier. Especially when it comes
> to hard landings.
MikeF - 05 Dec 2003 23:56 GMT
I respectfully disagree. Im a bit of a Jeanene Garafolo  fan, so i dont want to steer her
brother wrong. 8)   (couldnt resist ..)
Yeah, the mashers kick a.s....i loved em on my frankenbug 3.0, and i also loved the
smaller, but still way-cool dirt hawgs on my frankenbug 2.0.
However, id like to impart some cowboy wisdom here. My brother - a truck drivin', cowboy
boot wearin', redneck good ol boy - once told me, "The bigger the tits or the tires, the
bigger the headaches"

Yes, hes right. The extra weight and size = extra leverage against the swingarms and
driveline.
BUT, no matter what the car, the tradeoff is worth it!
::::wondering if theyd fit on the new Losi Mini...::::::
Hey, christmas is coming. Ask for both, and see what develops!

FWIW, the frankenbug 3.0 with Mashers made pretzels out of a crate of hingepins. The
duratrax suspension arms were indestructable though. Version 4.0 has 4mm hingepins, Savage
tires, 12 1/2" c to c width and massive MP-7.5 A-arms. After some severe wrecks, i have
done nothing more than fold the chassis a few times. Cant get the damned tmaxx tranny
working right though.....

> Any relation to Jeanene Garafalo?
>
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> > A-arms. They will and can snap alot easier. Especially when it comes
> > to hard landings.
!bungle - 06 Dec 2003 03:47 GMT
Mike, got any more pics (or links to pics) of the latest Frankenbugs? I've
got a couple that you posted way back, but you've obviously been busy!
BTW- my T2 is coming along nicely. It's being built as tough as I can
without using parts from other vehicles. I'm using aftermarket GT parts
wherever I can because they tend to be overbuilt for nitro... and I also
have every RPM part that's out there. One thing I do need assistance with- I
keep breaking T2 spindle blocks, so I bought the RPM ones for the T3. I'll
need to swap more parts to make it work, and I was wondering if you had any
tips for that conversion.

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(aka "Rhino")

"Well, you may be a lover but you ain't no d-d-dancer"

> I respectfully disagree. Im a bit of a Jeanene Garafolo  fan, so i
> dont want to steer her brother wrong. 8)   (couldnt resist ..)
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>>> A-arms. They will and can snap alot easier. Especially when it comes
>>> to hard landings.
MikeF - 06 Dec 2003 20:00 GMT
I just posted (i think) pics to the binary group. Shes pretty cool, but the tranny is a
pain in the arse.
As for the spindle blocks, i have a hard time believing SOMEbody doesnt make an
aftermarket part...Its such a simple thing, even if it isnt for the right car. I usually
find something in a catalog that 'looks' like it'll work, then i order the $3 stock part.
If the stock part fits, then i order the $30 aftermarket part.

Did you check out Hammad Gumman or New Era? they do lotsa rc-10 stuff IIRC.

> Mike, got any more pics (or links to pics) of the latest Frankenbugs? I've
> got a couple that you posted way back, but you've obviously been busy!
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!bungle - 06 Dec 2003 22:04 GMT
http://www.neweramodels.com/cgi-bin/item.cgi?session_id=bigfrnpesdhwriygfxdlhmvd
afreiupw&part_id=1771


It seems that NewEra just released aluminum spindle blocks... thanks for the
tip. I wanted to use the RPM parts because they flex rather than transmit
impacts into other components.

Oh, yeah- and because the RPM parts are like $5, not $25!

Maybe for Xmas...

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Dirk
(aka "!bungle")
'96 LS650
(aka "Rhino")

"Well, you may be a lover but you ain't no d-d-dancer"

> I just posted (i think) pics to the binary group. Shes pretty cool,
> but the tranny is a pain in the arse.
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>> --
>> Dirk
MikeF - 06 Dec 2003 23:51 GMT
I'd even try stock evader or rustler spindles to see if maybe they were a little more
forgiving. Chances are that a motivated man and a Dremel tool can make them fit.

8)

http://www.neweramodels.com/cgi-bin/item.cgi?session_id=bigfrnpesdhwriygfxdlhmvd
afreiupw&part_id=1771


> It seems that NewEra just released aluminum spindle blocks... thanks for the
> tip. I wanted to use the RPM parts because they flex rather than transmit
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> Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
> Version: 6.0.547 / Virus Database: 340 - Release Date: 12/2/2003
 
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