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Matt - 18 Jan 2004 17:50 GMT
Last night I went to a monster truck show at Tampa stadium, it was awesome.
This one truck went right through an old Winnebago and just pulverized it,
it was kind of disturbing! Anyway I want an RC monster truck. I'm thinking
the Traxxas stampede would be a good beginner truck. I won't have to worry
about engines overheating, etc. And since I'll mostly be driving it on the
road and just learning how to handle it, I don't really need 4 wheel drive.
Is that a good truck? How fast does it go?

Matt
Dirtnap - 18 Jan 2004 21:59 GMT
I love Stampedes, used to race them locally.
http://www.traxxas.com/products/electric/stampede/trx_stampede.htm
The magazine ads say the stock Stampede will do 23 mph.
I put a 19 turn chameleon in one of mine after the stinger wore out.
That upgrade alone added at least 5 or 6 mph.

I say get one.

Don't race anymore, but you should see my long wheelbase
"Speed Stampede" with two steering servos. Run ten cells
and a 13 turn single. Once hit 41 mph on 12 cells, cooked
the Speedo though.
Have fun... I do!

John

> Last night I went to a monster truck show at Tampa stadium, it was awesome.
> This one truck went right through an old Winnebago and just pulverized it,
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>
> Matt
Matt - 19 Jan 2004 15:35 GMT
I suppose that's fast enough for a beginner, huh? Like you said, later on I
can always change the motor.

> The magazine ads say the stock Stampede will do 23 mph.

> > Last night I went to a monster truck show at Tampa stadium, it was
> awesome.
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> >
> > Matt
frater mus - 20 Jan 2004 17:42 GMT
> I suppose that's fast enough for a beginner, huh? Like you said, later on I
> can always change the motor.

Agreed.  Going to any motor with advanced timing will likely be faster
than the stock Stinger.

I put in a generaic  27t, 24deg stock motor and it was noticeably
faster than the 20t, 0deg Stingeer.

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Thomas Wright - 19 Jan 2004 23:47 GMT
> I love Stampedes, used to race them locally.
> http://www.traxxas.com/products/electric/stampede/trx_stampede.htm
> The magazine ads say the stock Stampede will do 23 mph.
> I put a 19 turn chameleon in one of mine after the stinger wore out.
> That upgrade alone added at least 5 or 6 mph.

I think they're over-estimating a bit.  My brother's stampede has a 15
double and we clocked it at 21mph.  Maybe his batteries aren't quite up to
spec though.  Still, it looks and feels very fast and is great fun to drive
because it's lighter than most monster trucks of that size.  It'll wheelie
and jump better than any other rc i've seen.  Watch out for rolling round
the corners though ;)

Upgrades to recommend are:

- Bigger bearings all round
- new tyres
- wide bumper
- metal shock caps (to make the a bit more sturdy on the big jumps)
frater mus - 20 Jan 2004 17:43 GMT
> I think they're over-estimating a bit.  My brother's stampede has a 15
> double and we clocked it at 21mph.  Maybe his batteries aren't quite up to
> spec though.  Still, it looks and feels very fast and is great fun to drive

The stampede mph is radar-confirmed using a 7-cell batt.

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Thomas Wright - 21 Jan 2004 00:31 GMT
>> I think they're over-estimating a bit.  My brother's stampede has a 15
>> double and we clocked it at 21mph.  Maybe his batteries aren't quite up
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>
> The stampede mph is radar-confirmed using a 7-cell batt.

Ah, that'd be it then - we were running 6 cells.  Timed over about a 25-30m
straight at full speed for several runs, then averaged (though they were
all very close)
frater mus - 19 Jan 2004 01:12 GMT
> Last night I went to a monster truck show at Tampa stadium, it was awesome.
> This one truck went right through an old Winnebago and just pulverized it,
> it was kind of disturbing! Anyway I want an RC monster truck. I'm thinking
> the Traxxas stampede would be a good beginner truck. I won't have to worry
> about engines overheating, etc. And since I'll mostly be driving it on the
> road and just learning how to handle it, I don't really need 4 wheel drive.

The Pede has a cult following.

i'd throw on an RPM wide bumper to protect the steering servo from
smacks, and go have some fun.

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Matt - 23 Jan 2004 03:55 GMT
Tower Hobbies has the Stampede combo for $197. I've got the money and I can
buy it. But when I look at nitros, they go twice as fast for way longer, and
I wonder if I should I go electric. On the other hand I'm guaranteed run
time with electric, I'll have reverse, and maybe it's better I don't start
off with a 40 mph truck. Am I making the wise decision?

Matt

> > Last night I went to a monster truck show at Tampa stadium, it was awesome.
> > This one truck went right through an old Winnebago and just pulverized it,
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> i'd throw on an RPM wide bumper to protect the steering servo from
> smacks, and go have some fun.
!bungle - 23 Jan 2004 06:39 GMT
> Tower Hobbies has the Stampede combo for $197. I've got the money and
> I can buy it. But when I look at nitros, they go twice as fast for
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>
> Matt

Matt,

I have to jump in and say get the Stampede first.

I started with an electric Rustler (VERY similar) and after getting into it
bought a T-Maxx, RC10GT, Tamiya M03 Mini, Tamiya TA03F-Pro, Losi XXX-T, a
couple of old RC10T2s, and an old Tamiya M02- in that order, over the span
of a few years.

My interest level in driving my R/C vehicles rose and fell- like any hobby,
but out of all of my R/Cs the Rustler is the one that has been used the most
often. It's not the best handling, the fastest, or the most up-to-date
design, but it remains one of the most fun R/C vehicles per dollar ever
made.

The Stampede has a few differences and they help more than they hurt the
overall fun factor.

The high ground clearance means you can run in rougher terrain and grass
that isn't golf-course short. It wheelies easily and handles big jumps with
ease. The Rustler handles better, being low to the ground- but a Stampede on
pavement is still a blast.

Here are some favorable points for starting with an electric Stampede:

1. Electrics are quiet and can be run anywhere. I've run mine late at night
on my apartment complex tennis courts and parking lots, for example.

2. Traxxas parts are very tough, easy to find, and cheap! They've been
making their trucks for a long time practically unchanged- whereas (for
example) Associated T2 parts are hard to find as they have moved on to T3
and now T4 models.

3. They require less maintenance than most because of their planetary gear
differentials. Ball diffs work great, but need adjusting and rebuilding
fairly often.

4. There are some inexpensive hop-ups that greatly increase performance
available- mostly from
http://www.rpmrcproducts.com/products/traxxas/index.htm.

5. They are uncomplicated designs and don't require "tuning" to run.

So- get yourself three Venom 3000 battery packs and a Duratrax peak charger
and have a great time.

If you get into it, save up and get an Associated RC10GT and try nitro power
and stadium truck handling on for size. By then you'll be more willing to
travel to a R/C friendly spot to run it without being hassled- and when
you're there you can get pointers on breaking in and tuning a nitro engine.
If you get that wrong it can be an expensive mistake to fix and the hassle
of trying to start and run an out-of-tune nitro motor can turn some people
off to R/C forever!

Worst-case scenario: You find out after a while that electrics can be a
little slow and battery charging is sometimes a drag.

What then?

Sell it on eBay or to a local and you'll get a decent price- because there
will always be fans of a Traxxas Electric Stampede, trust me!

(dang, I have to check out which parts I need to convert my Rustler to one
after all this hooplah!)

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(aka "!bungle")
'96 LS650
(aka "Rhino")

"Well, you may be a lover but you ain't no d-d-dancer"

Matt - 23 Jan 2004 14:46 GMT
Thanks a lot for your advise, you basically told me what I wanted to hear! I
like the fact that the Stampede rides high, I want it to sway around turns!
Will the Tower Hobbies AC/DC charger be sufficient? Because it comes with
that combo.

I'm so used to saving my money that I talk and talk about this but don't
order it. It's time to place that order.

Matt

> > Tower Hobbies has the Stampede combo for $197. I've got the money and
> > I can buy it. But when I look at nitros, they go twice as fast for
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> (dang, I have to check out which parts I need to convert my Rustler to one
> after all this hooplah!)
!bungle - 23 Jan 2004 15:59 GMT
> Thanks a lot for your advise, you basically told me what I wanted to
> hear! I like the fact that the Stampede rides high, I want it to sway
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>
> Matt

Matt,

About that charger... this is what it states on the TowerHobbies web-page :

" This charges at a 5 Amp rate and is not recommended for charging
         NiMH batteries. The charge rate is not adjustable on this model. "

I would recommend this one instead:

http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXEHB6&P=7

It will charge Nickel Metal Hydride batteries as well as Nickel Cadmium.
You'll be much happier staying away from the old NiCad batteries- they have
a memory effect that can cause problems. NiMh batteries also have much
longer run-time.

Here is an example of the batteries I recommend:

http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXERB5&P=7

Get yourself three of these to start with. You can charge them all the night
before and then run one pack, let it cool for about 15 minutes, charge it
back up. While one is cooling you can run another pack and have another on
the charger- rotating them that way will allow some basically non-stop fun
for quite a while. If you notice, these batteries (at 3000mah) have about
twice the run-time of the 1500mah NiCd ones that come in that combo.

Also- I'd get this charger for AA batteries:

http://www.radioshack.com/product.asp?catalog%5Fname=CTLG&category%5Fname=CTLG%5
F009%5F012%5F000%5F000&product%5Fid=23%2D422


and these batteries (2 packs):

http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXCXE8&P=7

You'll save money over using throw-aways in a very short time.

Overall cost for this set-up is a bit higher, but you'll get MUCH more fun
out of it, AND you'll be saving money later by not haviong to continually
buy AA batteries. Also, remember- 3 times 3000mah run-time versus one lousy
1500mah battery!

$ 30.00 - two packs of 4 AA rechargeables

$ 35.00 - charger for the above

$ 57.00 - three 3000mah stick packs

$ 19.00 - charger for the above

$ 160.00 - Traxxas Stampede (NOT the combo, just the truck...)

for a total of about:

$ 301.00.

If you join the TowerHobbies "Super Saver" Club :

http://www.towerhobbies.com/ssc.html

for $ 30.00, you'll get free shipping, a bunch of coupons, 3 issues of RC
Car Action magazine, double-length warranties, blah-blah-blah. This also
saves you money in the end...

Use this coupon number: 010K8 to save another $15.00.

Seriously, if you check out all of these links and think about it- it IS
worth your while to come up with a bit more cash to start with.

I gotta get to work and earn some myself, so goodbye and good luck!

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Dirk
(aka "!bungle")
'96 LS650
(aka "Rhino")

"Well, you may be a lover but you ain't no d-d-dancer"

>>> Tower Hobbies has the Stampede combo for $197. I've got the money
>>> and
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>> Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
>> Version: 6.0.564 / Virus Database: 356 - Release Date: 1/20/2004
Matt - 24 Jan 2004 16:07 GMT
I've been researching chargers. Duratrax seems to be the biggest maker of
chargers. I want built in AC power, so the Piranha Digital Peak would fit
the bill. For 5 bucks more I could get the Intellipeak DTXP4100 pulse
charger that can also condition batteries, which might come in handy if I
come across some old nicads. It doesn't have the LCD panel though. What do
you think of these two chargers?

Matt

> > Thanks a lot for your advise, you basically told me what I wanted to
> > hear! I like the fact that the Stampede rides high, I want it to sway
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> Also- I'd get this charger for AA batteries:

http://www.radioshack.com/product.asp?catalog%5Fname=CTLG&category%5Fname=CTLG%5
F009%5F012%5F000%5F000&product%5Fid=23%2D422


> and these batteries (2 packs):
>
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> Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
> Version: 6.0.564 / Virus Database: 356 - Release Date: 1/19/2004
Justin Mahn - 24 Jan 2004 17:28 GMT
My personal choice today is the MRC Superbrain 969, but the Intellipeak
Digital has served me well for years now.

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> I've been researching chargers. Duratrax seems to be the biggest maker of
> chargers. I want built in AC power, so the Piranha Digital Peak would fit
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> >
> > Also- I'd get this charger for AA batteries:

http://www.radioshack.com/product.asp?catalog%5Fname=CTLG&category%5Fname=CTLG%5
F009%5F012%5F000%5F000&product%5Fid=23%2D422


> > and these batteries (2 packs):
> >
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> > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
> > Version: 6.0.564 / Virus Database: 356 - Release Date: 1/19/2004
Rick Russell - 23 Jan 2004 21:20 GMT
> (dang, I have to check out which parts I need to convert my Rustler to one
> after all this hooplah!)

Just buy a new one -- the full kit with transmission bearings costs
$95.

Rick R.
!bungle - 24 Jan 2004 01:16 GMT
>> (dang, I have to check out which parts I need to convert my Rustler
>> to one after all this hooplah!)
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>
> Rick R.

I would, but the kit versions are no longer available- only the RTR...

Also, I'm currently looking for a cheap Kyosho Mini-Z to go under my latest
purchase: a Lancia Stratos "San Remo" Rally body from their AutoScale
Collection.

It'll look sweet next to my Tamiya M02 with the ABC Hobby Lancia Stratos
body that I still need to paint..

I have got to stay away from eBay! It's hard enough to keep myself from
buying stuff available here in the States- eBay gives me easy access to
Japanese import parts that I used to just dream about.

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(aka "!bungle")
'96 LS650
(aka "Rhino")

"Well, you may be a lover but you ain't no d-d-dancer"

 
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