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Model Forum / Radio Controlled / Land Models / January 2004Traxxas Pull Starter
I've replaced EZ starter to pull Starter. do I need to do anything else?? A glow warmer or hot shot. And thick skin on your tugging fingers.  SignatureJustin Mahn remove Panties to e-mail > I've replaced EZ starter to pull Starter. do I need to do anything else?? >Subject: Re: Traxxas Pull Starter >From: "Justin Mahn" >A glow warmer or hot shot. And thick skin on your tugging fingers. LOL... Start drinking very heavily. The beer-lifting exercise will help build your tugging arm strength, and the alcohol will ease the pain and frustration of those hard-cold-starts. You could just get a starter box, but that wouldn't be as much fun. (Besides, a starter box won't work with some Traxxas vehicles, like the T-Maxx.) I'm curious why you made this change? I have one pull start car and want to change it to a drill starter as soon as possible. I've heard of people getting rid of all the starter stuff entirely but I think that more for performance concerns. That I can understand. > I've replaced EZ starter to pull Starter. do I need to do anything else?? > I'm curious why you made this change? I have one pull start car and want to > change it to a drill starter as soon as possible. > > I've heard of people getting rid of all the starter stuff entirely but I > think that more for performance concerns. That I can understand. Usually it's about weight reduction. SignatureL.V.X., brother mouse http://www.mousetrap.net/otr/ Old Time Radio trades http://makeashorterlink.com/?K16312E06 CBS Radio Mystery Theater database http://greyhound.mousetrap.net/altus/ retired racing dog >Subject: Re: Traxxas Pull Starter >From: frater mus >> I've heard of people getting rid of all the starter stuff entirely but I >> think that more for performance concerns. That I can understand. > >Usually it's about weight reduction. Sometimes it's a weight reduction issue. With Traxxas vehicles it's usually a reliability issue. The electric (never easy) EZ start is a peice of crap. The one-ways slip all the time, the gears strip, the glow wires are faulty, the batteries may be too low to turn the engine over... it goes on and on. Most newbies like their EZ starters, till they fail for the first time (mine did within a month) then they start looking for alternatives. Most go with a pull start. If a starter box won't work with the vehicle (T-Maxx) ...that's what I would do. The "Yank Eliminator" (electric drill starter) works, but you are exposing your crankshaft, and rear bearings to all kinds of dirt... not good. In regards to getting dirt on the crankshaft seal, I have a one way bearing problem on my RC10Gt. I got a starter and donut for starting. To solve the dirt problem on the crankshaft, strip the pull start housing, seal the pull cord hole with RTV, and install it. It works great having an empty housing to keep out dirt. >Subject: Re: Traxxas Pull Starter >From: gtgrandprix00@aol.com (GT Grand Prix 00) >In regards to getting dirt on the crankshaft seal, I have a one way bearing >problem on my RC10Gt. I got a starter and donut for starting. To solve the >dirt >problem on the crankshaft, strip the pull start housing, seal the pull cord >hole with RTV, and install it. It works great having an empty housing to keep >out dirt. Yep, that's what ya gotta do. Thanks for sending the tip. I see that yank eliminator as a recipe for short engine life. A starter box, or a bump starter is the best answer. For TRX .15 engines, the sealed backplate bolts on to the pull-start engine. Otherwise, just get a backplate and grind the starter nub off of the conn-rod knob. SignatureJustin Mahn remove Panties to e-mail > >Subject: Re: Traxxas Pull Starter > >From: gtgrandprix00@aol.com (GT Grand Prix 00) [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > I see that yank eliminator as a recipe for short engine life. > A starter box, or a bump starter is the best answer. >>Subject: Re: Traxxas Pull Starter >>From: frater mus [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > The electric (never easy) EZ start is a peice of crap. The one-ways slip all > the time, the gears strip, the glow wires are faulty, The pro 15 ez start was adequate at best. The 2.5 ez start is pretty robust. > the batteries may be too > low to turn the engine over... Doesn't sound like a starter problem to me. > Most newbies like their EZ starters, till they fail for the first time (mine > did within a month) then they start looking for alternatives. If you had a failure within a month I assume you called Traxxas and got warranty replacement? SignatureL.V.X., brother mouse http://www.mousetrap.net/otr/ Old Time Radio trades http://makeashorterlink.com/?K16312E06 CBS Radio Mystery Theater database http://greyhound.mousetrap.net/altus/ retired racing dog >Subject: Re: Traxxas Pull Starter >From: frater mus >The pro 15 ez start was adequate at best. The 2.5 ez start is pretty >robust. Glad to hear that they decided to make an improved version. I hope it lasts as long as the engine lasts. If it doesn't, what good is it? >> the batteries may be too >> low to turn the engine over... >Doesn't sound like a starter problem to me. Well, you're right it isn't. It's just one of the added hassles you get with the EZ start. If you go out to run, and your batteries fail you... game over (for the day at least.) Heck my starter box battery can fail too, but I can "jump" the starter box from my car battery till I get it re-charged. >> Most newbies like their EZ starters, till they fail for the first time >(mine >> did within a month) then they start looking for alternatives. > >If you had a failure within a month I assume you called Traxxas and >got warranty replacement? Nope. After watching a number of friends throw their EZ starts in the trash, punctuating thier speech with a good dose of..... ("&*%@Gd,Mf,Pos,Gd,Sht%#@%") I just went to a pull start. After that, a starter box. I know the thing was under warranty, but shipping it back to Traxxas and waiting another 2 weeks (or more) seemed like a waste of time. Especially when I wasn't thrilled with the EZ start in the first place. My LHS had a pull-start unit in stock. I was back up-n-runnin' in under an hour. >>Subject: Re: Traxxas Pull Starter >>From: frater mus [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Glad to hear that they decided to make an improved version. > I hope it lasts as long as the engine lasts. If it doesn't, what good is it? What good is a glow plug if it doesn't last as long as the engine? Or tires that don't last forever? Models from the major players are made of components that can be easily replaced. I don't expect anything to last forever. > Well, you're right it isn't. > It's just one of the added hassles you get with the EZ start. If you go out to > run, and your batteries fail you... game over (for the day at least.) > Heck my starter box battery can fail too, but I can "jump" the starter box from > my car battery till I get it re-charged. And I carry extra batts in my case. >>If you had a failure within a month I assume you called Traxxas and >>got warranty replacement? > > Nope. > After watching a number of friends throw their EZ starts in the trash, > punctuating thier speech with a good dose of..... That's your call. I always take advantage of warranties when they are available. SignatureL.V.X., brother mouse http://www.mousetrap.net/otr/ Old Time Radio trades http://makeashorterlink.com/?K16312E06 CBS Radio Mystery Theater database http://greyhound.mousetrap.net/altus/ retired racing dog If any part of a car were to fail in the first month I'd be getting it replaced under the warranty. I've never had a Traxxas but I have the HPI roto-start setup and like it. It's way better than pull-starters. I've never tried a starter box. Is there an advantage of using a starter box over the roto-start type setups? > >Subject: Re: Traxxas Pull Starter > >From: frater mus [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > The "Yank Eliminator" (electric drill starter) works, but you are exposing your > crankshaft, and rear bearings to all kinds of dirt... not good. >Subject: Re: Traxxas Pull Starter >From: "Charlie Durand" >If any part of a car were to fail in the first month I'd be getting it >replaced under the warranty. Agreed, UNLESS it's a part you didn't want on your car anyway. >I've never had a Traxxas but I have the HPI roto-start setup and like it. >It's way better than pull-starters. I've never tried a starter box. Is >there an advantage of using a starter box over the roto-start type setups? Perhaps the biggest disadvantage of these *on-board* electric start systems, is the fact that there is no (immediate) way of telling if your engine is flooded. If you over-prime, or otherwise flood an engine, it becomes "Hydro-Locked". Once that happens, it will not turn over till you get all the extra fuel outta the cylinder. With a starter box, the rubber starter wheel will stall, strain, or slip if it tries to spin a flooded engine. With a pull start, you can *feel* it when an engine is getting flooded. With an EZ, or roto start, the first thing that happens is the gears will just strip out. Additionally, using a starter box, you can lose all that extra weight, and mount the engine much lower on the chassis, thereby lowering your center of gravity. Lower CG = much better handling. You also get rid of one extra thing that needs maintenance, and a set of batteries that need charging all the time. With the glo-plug connected through the EZ start, as soon as you hit the start button, power is taken from your glow plug, making the engine that much harder to start. I always recommend that people using their EZ start, get rid of that glow plug wire, and start using a standard glow plug ignitor. If you like your roto starter, keep using it. When they work, they truly are convenient. Just pay close attention not to flood your engine. Go to ANY track where they are runnin' nitro cars and trucks. You won't find many "roto starts", "EZ" starts, or pull-starts there. > Perhaps the biggest disadvantage of these *on-board* electric start systems, is > the fact that there is no (immediate) way of telling if your engine is flooded. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > With an EZ, or roto start, the first thing that happens is the gears will just > strip out. The 2.5 version of the EZ Start has logic that senses when the engine is flooded and it automatically cuts the motor-cranking circuit. For this reason stripped gears and smoked starter motors are practically unheard of on the 2.5 EZ Start. > Additionally, using a starter box, you can lose all that extra weight, and > mount the engine much lower on the chassis, thereby lowering your center of > gravity. True. SignatureL.V.X., brother mouse http://www.mousetrap.net/otr/ Old Time Radio trades http://makeashorterlink.com/?K16312E06 CBS Radio Mystery Theater database http://greyhound.mousetrap.net/altus/ retired racing dog >Subject: Re: Traxxas Pull Starter >From: frater mus >The 2.5 version of the EZ Start has logic that senses when the >engine is flooded and it automatically cuts the motor-cranking >circuit. Now that sounds like a major improvement. However... how do you spin the engine again to remove the excess fuel? I hope the answer is that the EZ start somehow senses that there is no longer any restriction, and it allows you to spin the engine a couple times to remove the excess fuel. If that's the case... way to go Traxxas. No matter what though, I will still always love my starter box. But... if you've got a T-Maxx, where you can't use a starter box, the EZ start seems like the next best thing... if it works like you say. >>Subject: Re: Traxxas Pull Starter >>From: frater mus [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > any restriction, and it allows you to spin the engine a couple times to remove > the excess fuel. Yeah, after the GP is pulled the sensor detects the decrease in load and spins the engine over. Works really well. > No matter what though, I will still always love my starter box. Absolutely. Starter boxes are a really great tool; many of my friends use them and are very happy. SignatureL.V.X., brother mouse http://www.mousetrap.net/otr/ Old Time Radio trades http://makeashorterlink.com/?K16312E06 CBS Radio Mystery Theater database http://greyhound.mousetrap.net/altus/ retired racing dog |
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