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Arcusinoz - 12 Aug 2005 12:08 GMT
Is it only me ....or  are most  individual tracks  for Tanks ..just to
much  hard work........for no great result.
Kurt Laughlin - 12 Aug 2005 16:02 GMT
> Is it only me ....or  are most  individual tracks  for Tanks ..just to
> much  hard work........for no great result.

For "dead" or "dry pin" and "flat" tracks they are very nice, pretty much
required, and not that much work, in comparison.  Single piece sets like the
Academy Pz IV and Tamiya Panther only took about four hours total, each.
Some of the Modelkasten sets are too complicated to be worthwhile.  For
"live" track, as on Shermans, there is little gained except in detail.
Trumpeter's new KV series uses link and length tracks which are molded with
the proper sag in place on the top runs.  Esci also used L&L tracks.  These
are the desirable solution, I think, for live tracks, and perfectly
acceptable for others.

KL
TForward - 13 Aug 2005 03:40 GMT
>> Is it only me ....or  are most  individual tracks  for Tanks ..just
>> to much  hard work........for no great result.
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> KL

What do you mean, "live tracks"?  I have some armor waiting for me to feel
confident enough about my skills to dive in, some have one-piece vinyl and
some have single links.  Any info is good info.

TF
Kurt Laughlin - 13 Aug 2005 04:52 GMT
> What do you mean, "live tracks"?  I have some armor waiting for me to feel
> confident enough about my skills to dive in, some have one-piece vinyl and
> some have single links.  Any info is good info.

Live track has (generally) rubber bushings in the track blocks where the
pins go.  The bushings are keyed to the track pins such that twisting of the
track pins is resisted by the bushings.  Also (generally) the pins are keyed
such that two loose track blocks will be preset to a <180 degree angle on
the inside, between the blocks.  A series of blocks will tend to "curl" up.
The point is that the assembled track always "wants" to curve toward the
inside, or more specifically, curve around the idler and sprocket.  This
reduces rolling resistance.

Most American tracks have been live.  Most Soviet and WW II German tracks
were dead, meaning the pins were loose or free-spinning within their holes.
Flat track is a suspension arrangement without return rollers where the
upper track run hangs freely between the idler and sprocket, sometimes
resting on the tops of the road wheels.

I will make an exception to my previous statement about live Sherman tracks
being difficult.  The T66 tracks do not use end connectors, so they are much
easier.

KL
TForward - 13 Aug 2005 09:08 GMT
>> What do you mean, "live tracks"?  I have some armor waiting for me to
>> feel confident enough about my skills to dive in, some have one-piece
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> KL

Thanks very much.
Jim - 12 Aug 2005 19:37 GMT
Fruil(sp?), can never keep that straight, white metal tracks work great.
Sure there is a little clean up needed, but what doesn't need clean up.
With these tracks you will need to run a small drill bit to clean out the
holes for the track pins, but the finished product looks excellent, complete
with sag.  I have a picture somewhere if you'd like to see the end result.
> Is it only me ....or  are most  individual tracks  for Tanks ..just to
> much  hard work........for no great result.
 
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